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01-08-2008, 06:32 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Dec 9th, 2005 Location: Southeast KY
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Originally Posted by skottey  This is kind of funny, Knoxville is way down the list (58) on the TV market ranks and so are the others. Orlando is a smaller market than Tampa... etc..
Yet Dish does not offer HD locals for Tampa. Another example of the idiots behind the wheel at Dish going the wrong way down the Interstate of common sense.
Why would they add HD locals to the smaller television markets first?
Here is the list of rankings by market for those that want it... List of television stations in North America by media market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Knoxville serves a large area, including south east Ky (which is where I live). They also have alot of subs in the Knoxville viewing area. They may be going by how many subs they have in an area. Why put up hd locals in a area where you don't have as many subs?
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01-08-2008, 06:40 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Feb 6th, 2007 Location: Iowa
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Originally Posted by skottey This is kind of funny, Knoxville is way down the list (58) on the TV market ranks and so are the others. Orlando is a smaller market than Tampa... etc..
Yet Dish does not offer HD locals for Tampa. Another example of the idiots behind the wheel at Dish going the wrong way down the Interstate of common sense.
Why would they add HD locals to the smaller television markets first?
Here is the list of rankings by market for those that want it... List of television stations in North America by media market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | It's not just flipping a switch. E* has to strike a deal with each station first.
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01-08-2008, 06:42 PM
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Not only do they have to strike a deal, they have to co-locate their uplink hardware somewhere too.. Here it's at our local NBC station. They collect all the stations in the city into there, and then shoot it out to Dish via fiber supposedly.
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01-08-2008, 06:56 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Guru | | Join Date: Feb 14th, 2004 Location: Dayton OH
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Originally Posted by skottey Why would they add HD locals to the smaller television markets first? | Once again, what is Dish supposed to do, negotiate with the top "x" markets until a deal is made with all of them ? What if other markets are willing to make deals with Dish *now*, ignore them ? It's clearly obvious that Dish works with the stations in a market and if it's going nowhere, they move on to another one.
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01-08-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dennispap Since i only get 110,119, and 129 i guess dish will have to come install a different dish.Which one gets all 4 sats ? | None can get the three listed and 61.5.
Now what I really dont understand is why are they adding Flint Michigan for hd? That city is the year long unwashed smelly armpit of the state and Buffalo is even better than that city and Im not a fan of it either.
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01-08-2008, 07:37 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Sep 2nd, 2007 Location: Between Kalamazoo & GR. MI
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Originally Posted by Van None can get the three listed and 61.5.
Now what I really dont understand is why are they adding Flint Michigan for hd? That city is the year long unwashed smelly armpit of the state and Buffalo is even better than that city and Im not a fan of it either. | hahahahahaha. Now that description really fits for Flint. My car was stolen several years ago. It was recovered in Flint. We went up there and spent 2 hours at their Police Department trying to find someone who had any clue where I could get my keys that were stolen at the same time. While there, my mom had to go to the rest room and even the soap was dirty.
It really irked me that they were on the list and Grand Rapids wasn't (Grand Rapids serves like all of Southwest Michigan).
Geoff
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01-08-2008, 10:10 PM
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I used to think that of Lansing till I did my first install in Flint, its pretty much a poverty level town for the most part and you can go on ebay and pic up a house there for around ten grand or less just like with Youngstown Ohio and thats the armpit of Ohio. Go north and you'll find yourself in Frankenmuth wich may be the reason why its getting hd locals or it may have to do with one of the E vp's living somewhere north of the Detroit dma last I heard before I stopped working for E in that market.
I agrea that GR should be getting hd locals considering its size and its local coverage for the area. Hows the job market out there btw? I'm kind of missing living in the magic mitten though dont get me wrong, its nice to have winter highs in the low 70's where I'm at now.  |
01-08-2008, 11:10 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Sep 2nd, 2007 Location: Between Kalamazoo & GR. MI
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Originally Posted by Van I used to think that of Lansing till I did my first install in Flint, its pretty much a poverty level town for the most part and you can go on ebay and pic up a house there for around ten grand or less just like with Youngstown Ohio and thats the armpit of Ohio. Go north and you'll find yourself in Frankenmuth wich may be the reason why its getting hd locals or it may have to do with one of the E vp's living somewhere north of the Detroit dma last I heard before I stopped working for E in that market.
I agrea that GR should be getting hd locals considering its size and its local coverage for the area. Hows the job market out there btw? I'm kind of missing living in the magic mitten though dont get me wrong, its nice to have winter highs in the low 70's where I'm at now. | Job market stinks right now. Last I heard MI was ranked number 1 in unemployment (or maybe 2nd but just barely). Not sure what it is like in Sat Install.
However, don't dis us for cold weather during the winter. Was 63 degrees on Monday in GR. Little colder at 58 degrees yesterday.
Geoff
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01-09-2008, 12:12 AM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Oct 4th, 2007 Location: Burton,MI
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Originally Posted by darrencp22 Where did you get that list. We do not have MSG HD. | wikipedia if it's wrong,sorry
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01-09-2008, 12:23 AM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Oct 4th, 2007 Location: Burton,MI
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Originally Posted by Van None can get the three listed and 61.5.
Now what I really dont understand is why are they adding Flint Michigan for hd? That city is the year long unwashed smelly armpit of the state and Buffalo is even better than that city and Im not a fan of it either. | ya and i'm sure your area is perfect
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