Dish to expand HD

**JohnH** · 01-07-2008 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Voyager6

Just like D*, E* counts the HD RSN's in the total HD count. The difference is that D* has put most of their HD RSN's on CONUS (at least for now) rather than spotbeams like E*.

There are no HD RSNs on spotbeams. Some are at 61.5 and some are at 129. This might be considered somewhat the same as being on spotbeam, though.

**Mr.Pinkeye** · 01-07-2008 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by iwc5893

By what standard do they think they are the leader in HD? They're currently behind the curve on channel count, behind the curve on HD LIL's, quality is subjective so I won't argue that point yet, and they cost more than their direct competitor so value is a wash.

A funny semantics point about this press release: They aren't claiming to be "THE" leader, but "A" leader, as in in the front of most of the pack, which I think is true. They no longer have more than D*, but they are still beating the pants off most other providers. spin, spin, spin.

**tsduke** · 01-07-2008 09:41 AM

I wish they would offer a HD pack to gives us everything but Voom.

I want the rest of the HD channels. Voom sucks. Even if you like what they carry you have to of seen everything they show by now.

**Voyager6** · 01-07-2008 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by lapplegate

Where can I find the information that NY, on 61.5 ,is going to spotbeam?
I have not heard anything other than speculation that NY would leave CONUS.

If that happens New York will loose 50% of its current "residents".

The 4 CONUS TPs that are being used for Boston, NYC, Phila and DC locals from 61.5 are too valuable. You can count on them going to spots. There is absolutely no need for them to remain CONUS since E* is forbidden (at least for now) from delivering DNS.

**Voyager6** · 01-07-2008 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by JohnH

There are no HD RSNs on spotbeams. Some are at 61.5 and some are at 129. This might be considered somewhat the same as being on spotbeam, though.

Sorry about that. E* blacks out all out of market games to simulate spotbeams then. Also, this may change when the spots on 61.5 are lit and Ciel-2 is in place at 129.

**tomyo10** · 01-07-2008 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Skyhi

I am *very* happy that they made this press release. I'm glad to know that Cleveland locals are in their plans for this year!!!

I am very happy, also but they said the same thing about Cleveland in 2006.

**jcrash** · 01-07-2008 10:00 AM

WTF? They had Tulsa on their list a long time ago...then removed it...now it doesn't even make this round of rollouts?

D* has had Tulsa Locals for a while in HD. I've been a Dish customer for over ten years but I am now getting tempted to switch. Thank god my antenna I installed in the attic is getting me all my channels for now.

**digiblur** · 01-07-2008 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Voyager6

Sorry about that. E* blacks out all out of market games to simulate spotbeams then. Also, this may change when the spots on 61.5 are lit and Ciel-2 is in place at 129.

E* is not blacking out games for fun. Someone or something requires them to do this as this creates more work for them.

I wonder what else is in that list of 65 markets...they only list 11.

**Islandguy43** · 01-07-2008 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Skyhi

I am *very* happy that they made this press release. I'm glad to know that Cleveland locals are in their plans for this year!!!

Don't get too over joyed....Buffalo was suppose to get the HD Locals last year too.

**tsduke** · 01-07-2008 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by jcrash

WTF? They had Tulsa on their list a long time ago...then removed it...now it doesn't even make this round of rollouts?

D* has had Tulsa Locals for a while in HD. I've been a Dish customer for over ten years but I am now getting tempted to switch. Thank god my antenna I installed in the attic is getting me all my channels for now.

Why don't all you E* customers that are complaining and threatening to leave go and ahead and switch.

Maybe if enough of you switch those of us that intend to stay with E* will start seeing some results.