alright thanks for the INfo i was in the process of converting my old BirdView dish .. will proubly get a Lnbf ... and a vbox since my analog reciver Uniden SQ590 died ... looks like the capactors in the unit has dried out im sure if i replaced all them it would work again.. but since all the analog channels are gone ..

http://www.skyvision.com/store/mi3500028.html i did find this unless you have any other sujestions