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Old 12-28-2009, 04:50 PM
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Good question. Lyngsat does not show which Digicipher signals a 4DTV receiver will get.
A 4DTV receiver downloads (via Satellite) a Channel Map for each Satellite you have set up. So you don't have to try and find where channels are located. You just program the Satellite Locations, and the receiver does the rest. (it's not that easy, but easy once you understand how it works)

An FTA receiver, like your Visionsat, will not get any Digicipher Signals
A 4DTV receiver will get some of those Signals.

Fire up a 4DTV and see what comes in. I can tell probably most of the 4DTV stuff really easy. Another way is look at what NPS & SRL sells it has to work with the 4DTV. To the OP how is your line of sight for W5? If it's okay you could get a DSR 410 and do the HITS only route.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:50 AM
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Thanks for the info Lak7.
When looking at C-Band channels/satellites, how do I tell if the broadcast is 4DTV? Is it anything that says "Digicipher" (http://www.lyngsat.com/amc11.html) or is there any other encryption I should be looking for?

I might try this C-Band stuff if I can catch a satellite that is viewable from where I am, but just not with 4DTV yet. I just want to start with FTA that is not on 4DTV first (if any..)
Actually Lyngsat does show the 4DTV's virtual channel number in "red". It's under
"ONID-TID audio" in the link you posted above.
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To the OP how is your line of sight for W5?
If it's okay you could get a DSR 410 and do the HITS only route.
If W5 is at 105W, it may or may not clear:


Is DSR410 receiver? When I search for HITS, it seems like Comcast package, but there is no pricing/signup info.
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If W5 is at 105W, it may or may not clear:
Can you get Ku from 105?
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I would have to lose my 97 signal to check that.
I know it sounds like I am lazy, but it took me really long time to get this signal right, and I already sold my signal meter. Is it possible to check it with DirecTV dish? I have two on my roof from previous tenants.
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OK guys, I may try this because I think I can just raise the dish about 5 feet high on a simple frame.

Based on these two pages, I can probably get a signal on these two AMC4 and AMC18, more likely on AMC4.
TV - Food Network - LyngSat Address
AMC 4 (HITS Quantum) 101W

TV - Food Network HD - LyngSat Address
AMC 18 (HITS Quantum) 105W

But the question is how do I sign up for HITS Quantum and subscribe?
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OK guys, I may try this because I think I can just raise the dish about 5 feet high on a simple frame.

Based on these two pages, I can probably get a signal on these two AMC4 and AMC18, more likely on AMC4.
TV - Food Network - LyngSat Address
AMC 4 (HITS Quantum) 101W

TV - Food Network HD - LyngSat Address
AMC 18 (HITS Quantum) 105W

But the question is how do I sign up for HITS Quantum and subscribe?
Unless your a headend you can't subscribe to those feeds. You can get the consumer HITS channels using a DSR 410 from Skyvision. But they don't include the food network. The only one you can subscribe to is on 131 W AMC 11.

DSR-410 Digital Programming
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I see, nope, I am not an headend. Thanks for all the help everyone.
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