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iceturkee
07-24-2010, 12:20 PM
as reported in the bhn forum, disney's contract expires with time warner sept 2 and they are threatening to pull channels because they want a substantial increase in their next contract. let me remind you that this also means all the espn channels too.

disney has already pulled 4 hd channels from dish network as a result of a contract dispute so the threat is very real. this is very similar to the fox situation in late december.

Islandguy43
07-26-2010, 06:41 AM
disney has already pulled 4 hd channels from dish network as a result of a contract dispute so the threat is very real. this is very similar to the fox situation in late december.

It sorta reminds you of the CBS channels that were pulled a couple years back, and TWC was supplying OTA rabbit ears for their subs, so they could get their Buffalo Bills Games. If ESPN and company are pulled I won't hesitate to move over to DTV.

iceturkee
07-26-2010, 07:16 AM
your local abc affiliate may be involved too.

dangue
07-26-2010, 09:54 AM
It sorta reminds you of the CBS channels that were pulled a couple years back, and TWC was supplying OTA rabbit ears for their subs, so they could get their Buffalo Bills Games. If ESPN and company are pulled I won't hesitate to move over to DTV.

That seems rather short-sighted to me. If everyone did the same Disney will always win and everyone's TV prices will go up. It seems like it'd be worth figuring out who is at "fault" and acting based on that, rather than automatically siding with the content provider by switching to get the channels.

Islandguy43
07-26-2010, 11:14 AM
That seems rather short-sighted to me. If everyone did the same Disney will always win and everyone's TV prices will go up. It seems like it'd be worth figuring out who is at "fault" and acting based on that, rather than automatically siding with the content provider by switching to get the channels.

That would be basically the topper. TWC refusal to carry the NFL Network adds to the situation, plus the limited amount of NHLCI games in HD. If ESPN goes, I will just jump over to Directv.

iceturkee
07-26-2010, 11:20 AM
don't know when disney's contract with dtv expires but you gotta figure they will pull the same thing since they have pulled 4 of their hd channels from dish network.

Scott Greczkowski
07-26-2010, 11:28 AM
I hear that DISNEYs contract with DIRECTV was just recently renewed, which is why Disney is recommending them.

Islandguy43
07-26-2010, 12:28 PM
I would imagine these carrier disputes with Disney/ESPN will be settled in the next couple weeks. In reality, can Disney really afford not to have the advertising revenue from their ESPN Channels and/or their PPV ESPN Game Plan, missing from the 2nd largest cable provider and the 2nd largest DBS provider. That would cause 25-30 million households to be without their programing. I assume their existing advertisers and/or sponsors of ESPN programing would be looking for a rebate on their fees they have or will pay.

iceturkee
07-26-2010, 03:29 PM
I hear that DISNEYs contract with DIRECTV was just recently renewed, which is why Disney is recommending them.

thanks scott, i hadn't heard that.

toadfannc
08-17-2010, 01:10 PM
I would imagine these carrier disputes with Disney/ESPN will be settled in the next couple weeks. In reality, can Disney really afford not to have the advertising revenue from their ESPN Channels and/or their PPV ESPN Game Plan, missing from the 2nd largest cable provider and the 2nd largest DBS provider. That would cause 25-30 million households to be without their programing. I assume their existing advertisers and/or sponsors of ESPN programing would be looking for a rebate on their fees they have or will pay.

It's (TWC/Disney carriage dispute) getting nastier. At least here in Raleigh/Durham (where the local ABC affiliate is owned by Disney). The TV spots have gone from "you have choices" to "switch now-- it's becoming more likely that you will lose your favorite ABC and ESPN channels on Sept. 2nd". I know that it (and TWC's similar ads and Internet site) is mostly posturing-- but, Time Warner has to know that people are sick of this (many still have the Fox threats of 8 months ago fresh in their memory)-- and are jumping ship. If they even care.

It's sort of like sports strikes/lock-outs. Even though both sides are filthy rich and are responsible for the impasse-- the players are almost always painted as the bad guys. In this scenario-- TWC is/are the players, and Disney is/are the owners.

Looking through message boards, article comments, etc. ... I'd estimate that it's 10 to 1 against TWC. Not scientific, just an estimate. And, the small number who back TWC (ex. "I hate ESPN anyway")-- change their tune when they realize (in many markets) their beloved ABC entertainment programming (Dancing w/ the Stars, etc.) is on the chopping block.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I suspect it'll go to the 11th hour. But, in TWC's case, they would be wise to follow Comcast's lead (ex. recent 10 yr renewal w/ CBS) to resolve it ASAP. Do I expect that? Nope.

And, don't get me started on the TWC/NFL Network impasse. It's frickin' embaressing that TWC is the ONLY one of the top 5 cable/satellite providers to not have an agreement with the NFL for NFLN and/or Red Zone. We all know the issue(s) there-- basically Greed vs. Greed. To me that's no excuse (for TWC). Notice that Cox, Comcast, DirectTV, et al (with some exceptions) don't have these problems. All of them certainly have had (and will have) contentious negotiations with content providers-- but, do they put their customers in this position over and over again?

Reigster at SatelliteGuys