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PopcornNMore
11-07-2010, 09:47 AM
Product:
Spitfire Elite Digital Universal Single LNBF 0.1dB

Purchased From:
Hypermegasat (Hypermegasat.com, Dish LNBs (http://www.hypermegasat.com/Dish_LNBs.html))

Price Paid:
$17 including shipping

Introduction:
After reading all the positive and negative comments about this product on Satellite Guys as well as on other satellite forums I had to give it a try myself to see how it would compare to my current KU LNBF (Sadoun Standard Single LNBF with a 0.4dB noise figure).

Other Reviews:
DMS Spitfire Elite 0.1dB Universal Ku LNB Review (http://legalfreetoair.com/index.php?topic=1192.0)
Real World LNB Showdown: 0.1dB vs 0.3dB (Spitfire Elite Review) (http://www.fridgefta.info/forums/showthread.php?tid=4076)

Specifications:
Input Frequency: 10.7-12.75 GHz
Conversion Gain: 58 dB (typical)
Output Frequency: 950-2150 MHz
L.O. Frequency: 9.75/10.6 GHz
Power Consumption: 90 mA
Noise Figure: 0.1 dB
Feed Diameter: 40 mm
Very high cross-polarisation decoupling
High Stability
Cold and heat resistant

Date Tested:
November 6-7 2010

Equipment Used During Testing:
Dish: Channel Master 1.2m (4')
Receiver: Openbox S9 HD PVR FTA Satellite Receiver

Test Results:

AMC 6 (MSNBC) 11704V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 70

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 71

AMC 9 (TUFF TV) 11734H

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 67

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70

AMC 3 (English) 11736V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 75

GALAXY 28 (ABC News Now) 11954V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 72

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 74

GALAXY 17 (ESPN HD) 12099V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 90 Quality 70

GALAXY 25 (Azteca 13) 11983V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 67

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 74

GALAXY C3 (MAC TV) 12049H

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 76

GALAXY 19 (Kuwait 2) 11788V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 76

GALAXY 16 (CBS Newspath) 11784V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 58

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 67

SES 1 (BIO) 12059H

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 85 Quality 76

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 76

AMC 1 (MS20) 11940V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 75

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 76

SATMEX 6 (DA-A1) 12079H

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 72

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 73

GALAXY 18 (Daystar) 12134V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 70

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 71

AMC 21 (Telarty PBS) 12096V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 86 Quality 70

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70

AMC 21 (Montana PBS) DVB-S2 12105V

Sadoun LNB: Intensity 87 Quality 64

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 88 Quality 70

AMC 21 (OTEA PBS) DVB-S2 12112V

Spitfire Elite LNB: Intensity 89 Quality 85


Product Strengths:

Small in size and lightweight
Inexpensive ($12-$17) shipped
Seemed to lock DVB-S2 signals better


Product Weaknesses:

Wish a standard KU LNBF version was available for faster blind scanning


Conclusion: :up
Although sometimes marginal this Spitfire Elite 0.1dB KU LNBF out performed my current Sadoun 0.4dB KU LNBF in every test. I highly recommend this product!

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brentb636
11-07-2010, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the review. Looks interesting.
To address the blindscan speed ( this being a Universal lnbf) , have you tried changing it's definition to "single" "10600" "22khz on" , and see if you gain anything by the change ?
:)

PopcornNMore
11-07-2010, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the review. Looks interesting.
To address the blindscan speed ( this being a Universal lnbf) , have you tried changing it's definition to "single" "10600" "22khz on" , and see if you gain anything by the change ?
:)

I know of this trick, but the Openbox S9 receiver doesn't allow any 22KHz change when an universal LNBF is selected.

brentb636
11-07-2010, 01:01 PM
True, but you can simply arrow left on the LNB freq and change it from 9750/10600 to 10600 . THEN you can turn on the 22khz. That's generally how I run my universal , at the moment.
:)

FaT Air
11-07-2010, 01:06 PM
That's what I did. Didn't select universal, just 10600 and 22khz on.

PopcornNMore
11-07-2010, 02:58 PM
True, but you can simply arrow left on the LNB freq and change it from 9750/10600 to 10600 . THEN you can turn on the 22khz. That's generally how I run my universal , at the moment.
:)

You're correct I don't know what I was thinking.

brentb636
11-07-2010, 03:22 PM
You were probably thinking about another receiver. I keep looking for "Universal" , but of course, this box doesn't have that designation. Just the freq. settings. Maybe the Coolsat says "Universal" and then gives freq settings. Probably so, at least one of my boxes does. :)

TRG
11-07-2010, 04:46 PM
Popcorn, is the Q-signal on Montana PBS stable? I'd consider trying one of these but I need dual outputs.

PopcornNMore
11-07-2010, 06:51 PM
Popcorn, is the Q-signal on Montana PBS stable? I'd consider trying one of these but I need dual outputs.

Yes all signals were very stable during my testing.

Sadie
11-07-2010, 07:31 PM
I have to agree the Spitfire Elite is a very good LNB for the price.

I was using a Digiwave DGL-790 LNB since it was the only one I could find locally after a lighting strike took out my old LNB, interestingly the box it came in claimed it had a 0.3dB noise figure and the manufactures website claimed 0.5dB.:confused:

The body of the Spitfire is shorter than my old LNB and I just couldn't get it to perform at all the first time I tried it, I ended up having to drill new holes in the LNB arm and move the whole thing towards the dish, it seemed very critical to position compared to other LNBs.

Once properly install I didn't notice any increase in signal strength but a significant increase in quality. All the AMC 21 PBS signals that weren't already at 100% had a significant increase in quality, like PopcornNMore said the increase was most noticeable with DVB S2 signals, MPB quality increased over 30%.

I'm somewhat skeptical about the claimed 0.1db noise figure but the was a significant improvement in quality on the weaker signals and particularly MPB which exists in a particular noisy RF environment.
If you belief the manufactures claims the Spitfire has better figures for image rejection, phase noise and other characteristics than the Digiwave and maybe this accounts for the improvement.

Whatever the reasons its a good LNB for the price, it would be interesting to see a comparison with some of the other quality LNBs

Reigster at SatelliteGuys