Hey people we have found a good DVR that can record in True HD. We are ready for the olympics first HD broadcast. Our web site is www.hdehome.com cotact Jarmaine for more info. Since you have been looking for that HD recorder.

(URL Removed until we can review the unit, if this company wishes to advertise their products on SatelliteGuys they can contact us for our ad rates - Scott)

Mizee,

this is only can record OTA HD.

And now much HD can you fit on a DVD? 20 minutes an hour?

This just sounds more like spam to me then a product announcement.

Seriously...

Check it out the system it self have 120GB HDD Similar to the samsung which is 1199.00 without the DVD extraction. every hour of HD recording is 8GB so just do ur calculations. A DVD now can hold 8.5 GB. So one hour every DVD. Dont you think it better to put some on DVD without having to delete your videos????

OTA is actually the true HDTV all the other cable company that is saying they can get you High definition content... why would they not say high Definition quality. Because they can only do so much. Actually that so much is just upscaling DVD quality. But I mean I have cable as well and I'm not complaining because of all the other channels but I mean if you really want to get HD go OTA. Until they release the true HD in cable or direct TV. and take off the awful encryption that they have.

$1,299 only

ouch, and will it only do Free local OTA? for that price it better do the pay channels too

Well so far we are using this for OTA. It does have a HD tuner so. You will get both HD and none HD channels.

$1300 to record Frasier reruns? Am I missing something???

Will Sony's VAIO laptops record HD video content in true high definition with a 1394/i-link connection using their video capture software?

Check it out the system it self have 120GB HDD Similar to the samsung which is 1199.00 without the DVD extraction. every hour of HD recording is 8GB so just do ur calculations. A DVD now can hold 8.5 GB. So one hour every DVD. Dont you think it better to put some on DVD without having to delete your videos????

Existing DVDa hold 4.7 GB per side/layer.
Exactly what type of DVD burner is in this unit that gives you 8.5 GB of storage and on what media?

Is there any manual for the unit that is available to download?

Thanks.

$1300 to record Frasier reruns? Am I missing something???

There is more to local channels than you think. I think its good. Have you seen other shows in other channels other than ABC, NBC??? I mean if you are an HBO or MTV buff then you wont appreciate local channels but if your into other things then it would make a difference. If you want try it for yourself. Get a HD tuner. and a UHF antenna. and turn ur channel to KCETHD or any other channels that your antenna can pick up. You'll see the difference. I think I'm going to record the Olympics on HD.nice suggestion not everybody loves cable quality.

Existing DVDa hold 4.7 GB per side/layer.
Exactly what type of DVD burner is in this unit that gives you 8.5 GB of storage and on what media?

Is there any manual for the unit that is available to download?

Thanks.

Two AZO recording layers on a single-sided disc.
8.5 GB of storage capacity on a single-sided disc. .
No need to flip the disc
Largest compatible DVD back-up and data archiving format for computer drives
2 hours of HD TV contents/4 hours of DVD quality television video/16 hours of VHS quality
Ideal for archiving home movies
Read compatible with DVD-ROM drives & DVD-Video players

Here is the spec on the DVD/R

Mizee,

can you explain what type of DVDs these are? How do you get 8.5 GB of storage on a single-sided disc. Is there compression involved when the DVD is burned?

I have always been told that a DVD didn't have the laser bandwidth to record in HD. It's not that the disk won't hold enough information, it's the laser that's the bottleneck. :confused:

Mizee,

can you explain what type of DVDs these are? How do you get 8.5 GB of storage on a single-sided disc. Is there compression involved when the DVD is burned?

Here it is! http://www.streetwise.com.au/images/site_images/accessories/verbatim_dualdvd.jpg

and no there is no compression involed with the procedure. its double layer. soon they will come out with double layer w/ double sided.

kinda pricy. click here to buy some (http://www.taperesources-store.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=VPD-VA&dept=105&ref=froogle&id=1872004) .

I think i will stick with my SD DVD recording (archiving)phillips dvdr75 (http://www.drprojector.com/itemdesc.asp?CartId=1293-EVEREST-4004EFXTH17&ic=DVDR75) It has 1394 input(hopefully the VOOM DVR will be 1394compatible)

MR. C

$1200 for recording HD local programming is NUTS..l0l..imo
good to see there are some home shops sprouting up, But add the abilty to do all Other HD channels and a Guide and you will have to beat customers back with a stick,

MR. C

I have always been told that a DVD didn't have the laser bandwidth to record in HD. It's not that the disk won't hold enough information, it's the laser that's the bottleneck. :confused:

You are right. DVD wont do it. If for example you go to nero and burn it as DVD compression. If you did it this way. the 8.5GB disk will hold 4 hours. That is why there is another way to save the file. it will not play in all DVD player. Just like SVCD compared to DVD or jsut regular VCD. From the tuner that this system have will save it in a certain file. just like .mpg .avi. it will have its own extention. So what you do it just drag that video to the DVD and it will record in HD. that is why you will only get 1 hour.

I assume that for Playback these DVDs only will play on the HD360 once burned. Is this correct? I would love to see a demonstration. Is there money back guarantee plan if one does not like the product?

If I read the specs right is uses Blu-ray technology. I've heard that that technology will be going away. Why spend $1300 on technology that's going away??

$1300 is way too pricey for only just OTA HD. No Thanks.

If I read the specs right is uses Blu-ray technology. I've heard that that technology will be going away. Why spend $1300 on technology that's going away??

$1300 is way too pricey for only just OTA HD. No Thanks.

Read it right. Its not using Blu-ray. the site jusr copares it to the capabilities. We are using the regular burning device. Blu-ray does suck. I mean $20,000 for 20GB on a CD. for what. right? I dont think we would do something stpd. and it is OTA until digital cable and OTA channels help each others out with HD. We have talked to NBC's CEO, they are saying that they are not sharing their HD to cable company for free, but on the other hand cable cant afford it so that is why its OTA for now... the tuner is an HD TUNER. So once other channels become available for HD then you can record that aswell. AS you know HD is just starting. and it will get bigger.

Is there a way to delete or edit commercials from the final HD DVD in the harddrive? What edit utility is included? Do you have pictures of the menus?

I assume that for Playback these DVDs only will play on the HD360 once burned. Is this correct? I would love to see a demonstration. Is there money back guarantee plan if one does not like the product?

Yes we do have a money back guarantee if you are not satisfied. You pay for shipping one way and also a $50.00 restocking fee. We are confident that our system will do what we say it will do.

This seems to be a single tuner system. It think there are cheaper alternatives. I've hardly had an urge or a motivation to off-load the contents...

PS... The title is misleading. You didn't "find" it. You (as in "we") are selling it.

Hong.

the alternative is the Samsung PVR. you dont have the offloading capabilities it is cheeper. $1199.00. you wont pay another $100 for DVD-R, easy upgradable system, will be compatible with firewire as soon as they release the box. And once cable gets HD it will be ready to record and archive that as well in true HD ???? What would you really do??. o yeah Plus it also has HTPC capabilities. does $100 really matter?

Mizee -

I'd like to trust you - but certain things you say don't make any sense and it's making me question your credibility.

For example, what do you mean -

"OTA until digital cable and OTA channels help each others out with HD. We have talked to NBC's CEO, they are saying that they are not sharing their HD to cable company for free, but on the other hand cable cant afford it so that is why its OTA for now... the tuner is an HD TUNER. So once other channels become available for HD then you can record that aswell. AS you know HD is just starting. and it will get bigger"

AND

"And once cable gets HD it will be ready to record and archive that as well in true HD"


This sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

HD is very available through cable. NBC and otherwise. And OTA is limited to the local networks. It's not like we'll see HBOHD, ESPNHD, or ComedyCentralHD (or new cable channels) in HD OTA.

If this thing will record cable HD - it will need a QAM tuner for unscrambled HD channels or a Cablecard slot for scrambled HD channels.

One more thing - where do you get that Blu-ray will cost $20,000!!!

It's was released in Japan and I believe it's running at about $2500. It's expected to be much lower once it debuts in the US next year.

One more thing - where do you get that Blu-ray will cost $20,000!!!

It's was released in Japan and I believe it's running at about $2500. It's expected to be much lower once it debuts in the US next year.


"License fee: 1st Category US$30,000, 2nd Category US$20,000, Maximum fee US$60,000 for 3 or more categories"

This is from the sony website. you do need this to be able to play write and rewrite blu-ray..... right? look at it. c you are looking at next year price. but blu-ray wont even make it then. because it is too expensive to begin with. people would buy a double sided 8.5GB double layer cd over one sided 20GB for 1000% cheeper. I know you would

Mizee -

I'd like to trust you - but certain things you say don't make any sense and it's making me question your credibility.

For example, what do you mean -

"OTA until digital cable and OTA channels help each others out with HD. We have talked to NBC's CEO, they are saying that they are not sharing their HD to cable company for free, but on the other hand cable cant afford it so that is why its OTA for now... the tuner is an HD TUNER. So once other channels become available for HD then you can record that aswell. AS you know HD is just starting. and it will get bigger"

AND

"And once cable gets HD it will be ready to record and archive that as well in true HD"


This sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

HD is very available through cable. NBC and otherwise. And OTA is limited to the local networks. It's not like we'll see HBOHD, ESPNHD, or ComedyCentralHD (or new cable channels) in HD OTA.

If this thing will record cable HD - it will need a QAM tuner for unscrambled HD channels or a Cablecard slot for scrambled HD channels.


First HBOHD is only an upscaled DVD quality. Why do you think they say HD content. I'm not telling you to kick off your cable I mean I cant live without cable as well. but I'm just letting you know what would be the difference if you recorded cable HD. It will not come out on OTA either. Recording from the standard cable right now is scrambled that is why we cant do it right now. But once they do release the firewire out that is not encrypted which they will. then they will release true HD QUALITY not CONTENT. Do you get what I'm saying. ESPN in recorded in HD so that is true HD. I'm talking about cable channels in general. Just like the upcoming Olympics will be and will only be distributed in OTA only. See what cable does is convert the analog to digital and HD channels upscales it. Why do you think some channels look like crap when it gets too bright...??? because its upscaled.

I see what you are saying to an extent, but it is my understanding that HBO transfers the movies directly from the prints. Since film is a higher resolution (don't know if resolution should be used to descrive film), they actually downconvert the film to 1080i. Also some movies were recorded with HD cameras i.e. SW2 Attack of the Clones. The "brightness" you refer to is the way the director filmed it for effect similar to the different color schemes like Traffic, unless you have a tv that has brightness to high. I could be wrong but i'm sure someone on the forum will know for sure.

I think this thread needs to be closed as it sounds like Spam. This thread is already being discussed in the HDTV talk forum anyway. No need to have it here too.

I dont think its our plasma, LCD or projector. We tried alot of ways over here. The brightness im taking about it it gets washed out. we tested alot of stuff to get this just right because as you know HD is still very small. and its still growing.. for now this is the best. we have seen. There can be something else out there in the corner of some alley! :). Just wanted to get the word our about what is going on in HD recording.

First HBOHD is only an upscaled DVD quality. Why do you think they say HD content. I'm not telling you to kick off your cable I mean I cant live without cable as well. but I'm just letting you know what would be the difference if you recorded cable HD. It will not come out on OTA either. Recording from the standard cable right now is scrambled that is why we cant do it right now. But once they do release the firewire out that is not encrypted which they will. then they will release true HD QUALITY not CONTENT. Do you get what I'm saying. ESPN in recorded in HD so that is true HD. I'm talking about cable channels in general. Just like the upcoming Olympics will be and will only be distributed in OTA only. See what cable does is convert the analog to digital and HD channels upscales it. Why do you think some channels look like crap when it gets too bright...??? because its upscaled.

Ok -thanks for clarifying. Now I know FOR SURE you don't know what you're talking about.

Just because something isn't filmed on video using HD doesn't mean it's not High Definition. High Definition can also be optained from film transfers, using the original film masters (which have much HIGHER resolution than HD).

Regardless, firewire won't change a thing. It's not that HBO is "holding back" it's supposed "true HD" until firewire is available - which, by the way, it is!

And cable HD channels are the same as OTA channels - sometimes with even higher bandwidth rates because they get their feed via fiber directly from the network - and don't have to share OTA bandwidth with SD subchannels.

If it looks like crap to you - something is wrong with your equipment or you're not watching an HD show. Some channels are upconverted, yes - and some HD channels sometimes show SD programming upconverted. But that doesn't mean HD isn't available in "true" form via cable.

As for blu-ray - you must be quoting manufacture's cost or something to obtain licenses. That cost is subsidized by their sales - but that still doesn't change the fact that when Blu-ray is released next year, it shouldn't cost the consumer but about $1000.

And, by the way, Blu-ray discs are 50 GB for dual-sided, 25 GB for single.

http://www.blu-ray.com/

Do some research.

PS - And the craziest thing you said is that the HD feed from the Olympics will ONLY be available OTA. That is A FLAT OUT LIE. Any cable company that carries their local NBC station in HD can and will produce the HD feed for the Olympics.

Ok sure, I dont know what im talking about. Right now the firewire is available I know but a clean un-encrypted line in not right? Tell me how are going to Record a encrypted HD channel? Umm let me think decrypting it right. which is illigal. Mybe you wouldn't mind that but some people do. Also I know films have higher quality than HD but how about all the other channels. But who will and how will you film all the movies shows and news and whatever else you needs to film if the high quality HD cameras from sony is not in stock and is too expensive to get for film makes anyways. That is why they use tons of computers to get the digital version of this. right? Read about Lord of the rings for Finding Nemo. Which cost about $1M because of the converiton of their HD quality and detail... so dont say i dont know what im talking about. You are talking about a totally different subject. About Films and what not. We are talking about the GENERAL CHANNELS!!!! To washed out cant occur with none HD channels It wont even show widescreen unless its converted ofcourse which will get darker. Washed out can occur if you are upconverting pixels or detailed colors.

Fine lets compare. Here is a picture from OTA. Its an ok Picture. Try to get the best on off your HBOHD. or anything that is from TV. that is HD.

Ok sure, I dont know what im talking about. Right now the firewire is available I know but a clean un-encrypted line in not right? Tell me how are going to Record a encrypted HD channel? Umm let me think decrypting it right. which is illigal. Mybe you wouldn't mind that but some people do. Also I know films have higher quality than HD but how about all the other channels. But who will and how will you film all the movies shows and news and whatever else you needs to film if the high quality HD cameras from sony is not in stock and is too expensive to get for film makes anyways. That is why they use tons of computers to get the digital version of this. right? Read about Lord of the rings for Finding Nemo. Which cost about $1M because of the converiton of their HD quality and detail... so dont say i dont know what im talking about. You are talking about a totally different subject. About Films and what not. We are talking about the GENERAL CHANNELS!!!! To washed out cant occur with none HD channels It wont even show widescreen unless its converted ofcourse which will get darker. Washed out can occur if you are upconverting pixels or detailed colors.

How do you unencrypt it? With the use of a cable company HD box - that's how! You're telling me "your" box will decrypt encrypted cable? Right now, you can rent a cable company box, and use firewire to offload content to a DVHS in HD.

And if you're talking about "general channels" - what's the point of recording them in "high definition." Are you trying to tell me that this box will convert "general channels" to high definition?

The bottom line is this ...

If you want an HD-DVR for OTA - get a LG-3410A. It also has a QAM tuner for unencrypted cable channels (including HD). And it has a firewire port for offloading content - and you can get one for $800 online. Or wait for the Sony or Motorola or Mits that are coming this fall.

If you want to make dvd copies of HD - wait for Blu-ray or the HD-DVD from the DVD forum. At least you'll have a supported format and backing from the studios (so you can buy pre-recorded disc).

Don't get me wrong - it seems like this thing has it's niche - as a fill-in until more viable products come out. But I hesitate to pull the trigger considering all the misinformation the sales person seems to have.

Fine lets compare. Here is a picture from OTA. Its an ok Picture. Try to get the best on off your HBOHD. or anything that is from TV. that is HD.

Ever hear of HDNet? INHD? DiscoveryHD?

HD channels available on CABLE - look every bit as good. Let me see if I can locate some stills.

Out of curiosity - do you know what OTA stands for?

Here's one for DiscoveryHD ..

http://feldoncentral.2150.com/Discovery/large/Insectia_02.jpg

How do you unencrypt it? With the use of a cable company HD box - that's how! You're telling me "your" box will decrypt encrypted cable? Right now, you can rent a cable company box, and use firewire to offload content to a DVHS in HD.

And if you're talking about "general channels" - what's the point of recording them in "high definition." Are you trying to tell me that this box will convert "general channels" to high definition?

The bottom line is this ...

If you want an HD-DVR for OTA - get a LG-3410A. It also has a QAM tuner for unencrypted cable channels (including HD). And it has a firewire port for offloading content - and you can get one for $800 online. Or wait for the Sony or Motorola or Mits that are coming this fall.

If you want to make dvd copies of HD - wait for Blu-ray or the HD-DVD from the DVD forum. At least you'll have a supported format and backing from the studios (so you can buy pre-recorded disc).

Don't get me wrong - it seems like this thing has it's niche - as a fill-in until more viable products come out. But I hesitate to pull the trigger considering all the misinformation the sales person seems to have.

DVHS.. Waist of money. Im sorry Im not making you look stupid. Actually you have right info dont get me worng. We have the DVHS in our demo room it sucks. Im not telling you that i can decrypt it like i said it cant do it because of the cable box is still encrypted. But here is the deal. Comming in the future the firewire will be an unencrypted line like example a DVI passtrough. Something like that. from the cable box. Go hook up your cable box to your DVHS and see if it will record. If it does then I missed a pointer from my research. once its said and done what you are saying is old stuff. VHS? 600-1500 for VCR? or excuse me DVHS...

how much extra did you get those channels for again..??? see not everyone has them... LIKE I SAID GENERAL CHANNELS. And also Like I said for now its cable is encrypted but once its clean and not.... then we can record it aswell. so there is nothing to worry about right? I mean your cant do anything about encryption right?

What the hell are you talking about!? What are these "general channels" you're talking about - name them.

PS - and YES, you can hook up firewire from a cable box and record it in HD with a DVHS. That's the whole point!

PPS - you still didn't answer my question - do you know what OTA stands for?

PPPS - Cable that's encrypted WILL NEVER be unencrypted unless you have a cable company box or one that supports Cablecard - this box is neither. It will NEVER be able to record HD via cable on its own. NEVER.

Mizee,

I got one for you. Why not send us a demo unit to do a review with (we will send it back after a week of playing with it)

If you are interested contact Sean or myself.

We will give it a nice honest review, and if your product is as good as you say it is a good review from us means $$$'s for you company. :)

What the hell are you talking about!? What are these "general channels" you're talking about - name them.

PS - and YES, you can hook up firewire from a cable box and record it in HD with a DVHS. That's the whole point!

PPS - you still didn't answer my question - do you know what OTA stands for?

OVER THE AIR!. General channels Like TNT, FOX, HBO, NBC, ABC etc. is mostly Upscaled. these channels HDNET is different this is a special channel. Turn your channel to KCET look at over the air and look at the one from your cable box.

Mizee,

I got one for you. Why not send us a demo unit to do a review with (we will send it back after a week of playing with it)

If you are interested contact Sean or myself.

We will give it a nice honest review, and if your product is as good as you say it is a good review from us means $$$'s for you company. :)

Yeah put your $ where your mouth is, the SPAM thread you started has been veiwed almost 900 times, (good advertising for free) Let some experts review your HD recorder.

MR.C
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OVER THE AIR!. General channels Like TNT, FOX, HBO, NBC, ABC etc. is mostly Upscaled. these channels HDNET is different this is a special channel. Turn your channel to KCET look at over the air and look at the one from your cable box.


I don't get KCET. I've never even heard of it. Looking online, it seems that it's your local PBS.

I've got to tell you - PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX - the HD channels available OTA here in Chapel Hill, NC look EXACTLY the same as they do via cable.

So, tell me - how does your box record HBO-HD, TNT-HD - two "general channels" you listed? As those are clearly not available OTA.

I don't get KCET. I've never even heard of it. Looking online, it seems that it's your local PBS.

I've got to tell you - PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX - the HD channels available OTA here in Chapel Hill, NC look EXACTLY the same as they do via cable.

So, tell me - how does your box record HBO-HD, TNT-HD - two "general channels" you listed? As those are clearly not available OTA.


GRRRRR... Dude you are not listening to me... Its is encrypted that is why it will not record yet. but once the firewire is open then we can!!!. you kind of get what im saying? Nothing will. I dont know what kind of connection you have with DVHS.

Mizee,

I got one for you. Why not send us a demo unit to do a review with (we will send it back after a week of playing with it)

If you are interested contact Sean or myself.

We will give it a nice honest review, and if your product is as good as you say it is a good review from us means $$$'s for you company. :)


Fine Review. will be good. Tomorrow i'll cantact you. will be good im leaving the office. Full money back Guarantee.!!!!!! no more $50.00. use it as HD tuner and recorder. FULL MONEY BACK.

GRRRRR... Dude you are not listening to me... Its is encrypted that is why it will not record yet. but once the firewire is open then we can!!!. you kind of get what im saying? Nothing will. I dont know what kind of connection you have with DVHS.

You're not listening.

Cable box - via firewire - to DVHS will record cable HD channels in HD.

If you can't do this now with your box (by replacing the DVHS in the chain) you'll never be able to.

I'll await the review.

As far as the review ... here are a few things I'd like to know ...

1. What's the EPG like? Does it use TVGuide? Does it have a "Season pass" type feature? How does it deal with recording conflicts?
2. Is QAM available?
3. Can you watch something you've recorded while it's recording?
4. Can you start watching a show from the beginning while it's recording (i.e., show starts recording at 8:00 - you start watching it at 8:15 and "catch up")
5. Typical "trick play" functions - pause, rewind live TV
6. Edit shows before burning to DVD
7. PQ PQ PQ

cant we all build this HD DVRmachine ourselfs with a HD video capture card like this Ram Video card (http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/hdtv-cards.html) and a DVD burner to acheive ???

Ok folks...

Let's not argue with Mizee, he has agreed to let us test this unit, and I can't think of anyone better to test it then our own Sean Mota.

I am sure Sean will give it a fair evaluation.

Instead of Mizee talking for the unit we should let the unit talk for itself. After all when all is said and done Mizee could have a great unit on his hands!

cant we all build this HD DVRmachine ourselfs with a HD video capture card like this Ram Video card (http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/hdtv-cards.html) and a DVD burner to acheive ???


Yes.

Fine Review. will be good. Tomorrow i'll cantact you. will be good im leaving the office. Full money back Guarantee.!!!!!! no more $50.00. use it as HD tuner and recorder. FULL MONEY BACK.

Sounds like he'll be charging you for the "demo" test with the option of getting your money back after trialing it. And he'll even waive the $50 restocking fee. Awwww, how nice. :rolleyes:

First off I can't belive this thread went this far. So, what's up? Is Mizee sending one out via FedEx for free?

Fine Review. will be good. Tomorrow i'll cantact you. will be good im leaving the office. Full money back Guarantee.!!!!!! no more $50.00. use it as HD tuner and recorder. FULL MONEY BACK.
has sean or scott or wasch been contacted? anyone heard from Mizee? LOL, I would like to hear about the test results.

MR<C

HHMMMMMM...tap, tap, tap :rolleyes:

He Pmed me last night asking for my phone number, I told him to contact Sean, he is a much better HD tester then me. :)

I pm'ed my telephone phone last night...

And nothing yet, huh? Looking at the grammar and sentence structure in Mizee's posts here as well as the web-site it all seems a little fishy to me. Only time will tell if this is all a scam or not.

We will find out, for now I am giving Mizee the benefit of the doubt, after all he may have a decent product.

If you read some of my postings and saw some of my grammar and sentence structure you would be wondering as well. :D

It's the website that's buggin' me.

Looks like its from 1973. I wouldn't want that thing in my entertainment center.

I've got the call today. It will be shipped to me without any cost next week. So, I may have it by the first week in August.

I've got the call today. It will be shipped to me without any cost next week. So, I may have it by the first week in August.
Okay, it's been about four days now...has it arrived yet or did he send through the USPS?

Okay, it's been about four days now...has it arrived yet or did he send through the USPS?

I did not get a call again. I am still waiting...

hhmmpff :rolleyes:

You have to go to your Post Office and find column number 9 and 10. There's a column in between I think it's labeled 9 3/4, run into it full steam, Sean, and you should have your HD DVR. Or end up in Hogwart's either way it should be a nice experience.

You are right. DVD wont do it. If for example you go to nero and burn it as DVD compression. If you did it this way. the 8.5GB disk will hold 4 hours. That is why there is another way to save the file. it will not play in all DVD player. Just like SVCD compared to DVD or jsut regular VCD. From the tuner that this system have will save it in a certain file. just like .mpg .avi. it will have its own extention. So what you do it just drag that video to the DVD and it will record in HD. that is why you will only get 1 hour.

Apparently you won't be able to play your backup DVDs from this system in regular stand alone DVD players because of the non-standard file format. This is a deal breaker. And so is the price of blank media ~$14 per disc.

have we heard again from these folks,??? or is the STB still in the mail....
hell time-life ships quicker...lol

my wife wanted one just to record (CBS) cold case till she read the dvd wouldnt play in all DVD players.

i apologize for not getting back to you guys right away. our surveillance systems were going crazy the end of the month so the manual wasn't ready. you can play it in regular DVD players if you record on DVD format. I'll call you Sean again soon. I'm sorry again.

i apologize for not getting back to you guys right away. our surveillance systems were going crazy the end of the month so the manual wasn't ready. you can play it in regular DVD players if you record on DVD format. I'll call you Sean again soon. I'm sorry again.

good to know that you didnt disappear, We are looking forward to the review.

i apologize for not getting back to you guys right away. our surveillance systems were going crazy the end of the month so the manual wasn't ready. you can play it in regular DVD players if you record on DVD format. I'll call you Sean again soon. I'm sorry again.

Geez - how are we supposed to read the review in enough time to order one and get it before the Olympics start up? Seems like this would be of some priority.

you can play it in regular DVD players if you record on DVD format.

Anyone know what this means exactly? I assume it means loosing the ability to record in HD - in which case it would be much cheaper to just buy a Tivo.

im startin to wonder? hmmmmmmmmmmm

I removed the link for his posts. I am starting to think the units do not perform as advertised. We would love to review it and give him exposure, but at the moment his origional posts are now considered spam.

If he would like to advertise with us he can contact us for rates. ;)

Sorry for the delay the system is ready. We had some stuff that we needed to take care of. Again I appologize. We are very please of the out come of the hold. I hope you guys get to test our system soon.

We are looking forward to it. :)

Anyone know what this means exactly? I assume it means loosing the ability to record in HD - in which case it would be much cheaper to just buy a Tivo.

Im sorry didnt get to reply to this. We have 2 ways of backing up to a DVD. one way is by just copying the file which is it's own format full HD quality. Also the other will be available soon and you will be able to upgrade your system with. You can downscale to DVD quality so you can put it in DVD format. Also this upgrade will enable you to edit the recorded video.

I think we almost there. So now I am waiting for the product to be shipped. Waiting anxiously...

Im sorry didnt get to reply to this. We have 2 ways of backing up to a DVD. one way is by just copying the file which is it's own format full HD quality. Also the other will be available soon and you will be able to upgrade your system with. You can downscale to DVD quality so you can put it in DVD format. Also this upgrade will enable you to edit the recorded video.

Mizee,

So you can't edit the recorded video on the HD right now. Is the upgrade going to be available for the evaluation that we are going to do.

Mizee,

So you can't edit the recorded video on the HD right now. Is the upgrade going to be available for the evaluation that we are going to do.


right now it's not here yet. they are doing the teting in taiwan. our softwares are developed over there. I sent you the frorm in your email...

right now it's not here yet. they are doing the teting in taiwan. our softwares are developed over there. I sent you the frorm in your email...

Ok. I completed the form and faxed it back...Hope you've got it.

I'm skeptical, but I'm looking forward to your review Sean.

kinda pricy.

$1200 for recording HD local programming is NUTS..l0l..
MR. C

You can get a $199 HDTV capture card and record to your TV, and output to mpeg 2 or mpeg 4, which you can convert to other formats like WMP9 or xvid (mpeg 4 varient).
Paired up on my PC to two 120 gig drives in RAID 0 for a 240 gig storage for HD content.

If you have media center PC with HDTV output capability it makes a cheap way to capture TV.

It will capture HDTV OTA and SD cable sources.

You can get a $199 HDTV capture card and record to your TV, and output to mpeg 2 or mpeg 4, which you can convert to other formats like WMP9 or xvid (mpeg 4 varient).
Paired up on my PC to two 120 gig drives in RAID 0 for a 240 gig storage for HD content.

If you have media center PC with HDTV output capability it makes a cheap way to capture TV.

It will capture HDTV OTA and SD cable sources.



I challenge you to send that system to Sean. It is true that you can do something like this. We have done more to the system to get to the quality that we have. Just like alienware for gamer PC's. You can make a strong system but it still wont have the refresh rate like alienware.. We have the same concept. As you say with PC.? how much can you get a good PC? how much can you make the quality better. how much for that Video card. and how about if you just cant get it right? So I guess the product does have an advantage to then right? PC, HD recorder, you can burn stuff to DVD in HD quality DVD quality, music CD, Also you can Schedule recording remotely while you are in your office trough the Internet, and more as I said it is enhanced not like any other PC. why will we waist our time to build this and market it if it was just another PC with a add-on card.

hey mizee,

has your companies unicorn made it too production, or is it still a prototype?
Has your product been shiped to sean and when can we expect the Bedawins to deliver ? How long as your co. been is biz ?

just curious ? I have never known the USPS to take a month to ship


Mizee 07-20-2004, 05:40 PM - Fine Review. will be good. Tomorrow i'll cantact you. will be good im leaving the office. Full money back Guarantee.!!!!!! no more $50.00. use it as HD tuner and recorder. FULL MONEY BACK.

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I've got confirmation that it was shipped already. There was some delay but I should have it soon.

hey mizee,

has your companies unicorn made it too production, or is it still a prototype?
Has your product been shiped to sean and when can we expect the Bedawins to deliver ? How long as your co. been is biz ?

just curious ? I have never known the USPS to take a month to ship



my thoughts
MR/C
http://www.sanantoniowifi.tk/
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Right now it is in between prototype & a production product. We need a several people to eval the system before total production which Sean is kind enough to do for us. We have been in biz for almost 20yr in digital recording. Other product right now is for digital sruveillance, cctv. We did ship the product to sean speaking of. Sean here is the tracking # 249500010000696.

I've got it! I have to set it up. Expect review..Soon.

I was able to play with it a little tonight after setting it up. I was able to record OTA but the real question will be the HD recording on DVD. I am going to order a pack of three dvd's just to satisfy my curiosity. I will give a in-depth review after I evaluate the DVD recording. So please hold the questions until I get the DVDs.

Wow, i am excited to hear what sean has to say about this... And really hope the bugs with the box are almost non existent, so it can hit the mainstream voom market soon.. Yay keep the good stuff coming voom...

Sean,
Can you also compare the features in Mizee's product with the Promised Voom HD DVR product?
Thanks

Guys,

remember that this is not the VOOM DVR. This is ONLY an OTA DVR that is able to record OTA HD only (it can record digital as well but I am sure everyone is interested in the HD part).

Mizee's product and the VOOM HD DVR are quite different. I will try to get those DVDs locally and see if I can accelerate the process.

I was able to play with it a little tonight after setting it up. I was able to record OTA but the real question will be the HD recording on DVD. I am going to order a pack of three dvd's just to satisfy my curiosity. I will give a in-depth review after I evaluate the DVD recording. So please hold the questions until I get the DVDs.

Just copy the file as DATA. so you preserve the HD quality. to Playback copy to HDD again.

Just copy the file as DATA. so you preserve the HD quality. to Playback copy to HDD again.Can it play from the DVD directly, or do you have to copy it to the HDD first?

Can it play from the DVD directly, or do you have to copy it to the HDD first?

copy to HDD first. The reason for this is because DVD is too slow for HD. I dont mean the read speed like DVD player 10x, 20x, or 52x. What I mean is image/frame relay speed. If you want to use just the DVD player you must convert to DVD.

copy to HDD first. The reason for this is because DVD is too slow for HD. I dont mean the read speed like DVD player 10x, 20x, or 52x. What I mean is image/frame relay speed. If you want to use just the DVD player you must convert to DVD.

If you change to DVD, do you lose the HD resolution of the program. Can't you just play the DVD and have the HD resolution in there? If I get your point correctly then DVD is only for archiving purposes, not for playing. Am I correct? Let me know because I will cancel the order of DVDs. I was under the impression that it will be able to play the DVD and show the HD program.

copy to HDD first. The reason for this is because DVD is too slow for HD. I dont mean the read speed like DVD player 10x, 20x, or 52x. What I mean is image/frame relay speed. If you want to use just the DVD player you must convert to DVD.
I see. I don't think there are 10x DVD players yet, but if they existed that could've been sufficient for MPEG2-compressed HD stream. Even 6x would've been fast enough, I think.

If I get your point correctly then DVD is only for archiving purposes, not for playing. Am I correct? Sean, that's what the web site states too. Just archiving (as a data file).

For some reason I had something else in mind. I guess this work great with the JVC 3000 unit. To be able to archive it and play it from the same medium.

yup illya is correct the dvd is just way too slow. but the system is fully upgradable. from us.

Sean How is the quality? Did you see the demo clip that we have left in the system?