With the introduction of FSFLHD channel 341 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=26038), VOOM has reached the 39 HD channel mark!
This milestone is important for two reasons:
1. This is the number of channels that was initially promissed.
2. This seems to be the maximum capacity of the current 13 transponders (until the second leased satellite goes into operation in October).

Ilya is that including Olympics in HD? Which could be used for something else later, and channel 999?

It is unfortunate that everyone can not get these channels... :(

Nice to see all the upbeat posts tonight. Happy Voomers out there.

Does 341 count? Not everyone gets it. So if you subscribe, you don't necessarily have the option of subscribing to 39 HD channels.

Ilya is that including Olympics in HD? Which could be used for something else later, and channel 999?
Hopefully when the Olympics are over, that's when the HD feed from NFL network will start :yes

Oh that's true forgot about NFL-HD hopefully showing more than just 1 game a week in HD.. heh

Well, it didn't last too long. But for one evening a new world record has been set! Let's see if VOOM can repeat it again tonight. And yes, I count all HD channels, including 999 and those available in select areas. Actually, with its DNC and RNC broadcasts, 999 has proven to be a real channel, IMO.

Let's see, if you count the OTA channels (because the installation of the antenna by VOOM and the integration with satellite programming allows me to see them) then I am getting 40 channels.

Voom Originals = 21 HDchannels
Va-Voom adds 10 HD movie channels
Others:Bravo, Discovery, TNT,ESPN brings it to 35
OTA = NBC, Fox*, CBS, ABC, PBS brings it to 40

*= HD by Sept. 1 for football.

Add Olympics, FoxFL etc. and you could be getting up to 42 channels right now.

And during this time DirecTV has not added one additional HD channel! They only have
HBO, Show, Espn, Disc., Hdnet & HDnet Movies plus PPV & CBSHD or 8 at the max.

Well if you include the versatile channel 999, then it could be 42!
Did you include playboy? I hear D* and E* are close to adding another SD channel though.

Let's see, if you count the OTA channels (because the installation of the antenna by VOOM and the integration with satellite programming allows me to see them) then I am getting 40 channels.

Voom Originals = 21 HDchannels
Va-Voom adds 10 HD movie channels
Others:Bravo, Discovery, TNT,ESPN brings it to 35
OTA = NBC, Fox*, CBS, ABC, PBS brings it to 40

*= HD by Sept. 1 for football.

Add Olympics, FoxFL etc. and you could be getting up to 42 channels right now.

And during this time DirecTV has not added one additional HD channel! They only have
HBO, Show, Espn, Disc., Hdnet & HDnet Movies plus PPV & CBSHD or 8 at the max.
You left out NBCHD will remain on for D* customers after the Olympics.

With the introduction of FSFLHD channel 341 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=26038), VOOM has reached the 39 HD channel mark!
This milestone is important for two reasons:
1. This is the number of channels that was initially promissed.
2. This seems to be the maximum capacity of the current 13 transponders (until the second leased satellite goes into operation in October).
Two bad most cant see all of the 39 channels. ANd too bad they werent the channels that were promised, i.e. HDnet or INHD.

Two bad most cant see all of the 39 channels. ANd too bad they werent the channels that were promised, i.e. HDnet or INHD.Yep, not exactly what we were hoping for...
Actually, HDnet was never promised. INHD and INHD2 seem to be the only two channels that VOOM failed to deliver, though we did get a few channels that were never promised.

Yep, not exactly what we were hoping for...
Actually, HDnet was never promised. INHD and INHD2 seem to be the only two channels that VOOM failed to deliver, though we did get a few channels that were never promised.
What about NBA TV and College Sports TV and don't forget NFL Network HD (NFLVoom)...
And oh yeah, for those who never stop complaining, HGTV........

Using D* math, I see no reason why we can't include all the local HD DTV stations we are receiving OTA. In my case, you can add another 15 HD channels to that total.;)

1) I can't believe someone hopped in here asking for SD channels in a thread about HD again.

2) I get NBC/CBS HD at 19.xx I get ABC and FOX at 14-15 mbps... please stop advocating robbing b/w so that Voom can compress ITS HD channels more, but I can get my locals via Sat.... OTA works fine now.

Well I wont count channels that are PPV, sunday ticket Hd channels, RSN's or distant network feeds for either service. Thats bologna. Infact D*'s top heaviness with those types of channels is a major reason I left. If they had simply expanded the HD channels that everyone could recieve I would still be there. I dont believe RSN's or the Olympic feed was ever in the original list. But INHD1,2 and NBATVHD were. And Voom has failed to deliver them. Its also a little ridiculous to include the Barker in our totals. LMAO

Yep, not exactly what we were hoping for...
Actually, HDnet was never promised. INHD and INHD2 seem to be the only two channels that VOOM failed to deliver, though we did get a few channels that were never promised. Id trade, auction, gallery, Moov, Ultra and 5 cinema channels for INHD1 and 2 without a second thought. Of course what do I know? Who am I to question Vooms explosive 30,000 customers in 9 month ? business model. Heaven forbid they end up with 36 instead of that magical 39 number thats gonna make all the subs come runnin.

Id trade, auction, gallery, Moov, Ultra and 5 cinema channels for INHD1 and 2 without a second thought.Perhaps they can't, even if they wanted to. The channels that you named are all low-budget channels. My guess is that, all of them combined cost VOOM less than what INHD is asking for.

inhd1,2 what's on these channels?
If it is sports orientated at all you can keep them.
I watch no sports as I never was a spectator; I am a doer.
Want bandwidth? Give up ESPN and the like.

Perhaps the can't, even if they wanted to. The channels that you named are all low-budget channels. My guess is that, all of them combined cost VOOM less than what INHD is asking for. Gives you some measure of just what the exclusives are worth doesnt it? No other service seems to be clamoring to carry them. But really you have to weigh into the equation of the increased overall bandwidth and PQ such a trade would bring. 3 HD channels at 12 mbps each would mean raising the average bandwidth 1 mbps over the remaining 36 HD channels and more detail on all of the channels. I wouldnt be so quick to compare costs when I have absolutely no data on how much it costs to produce those exclusives Ilya. Your guess is based on conjecture without any supporting data.

IMHO, if Voom trades their exclusives for INHD "me too" channels, they will reduce their uniqueness, reduce the variety of provider choices out there, and frankly reduce the reasons to go with Voom.

Secondly, the level of budget does not equate to the level of quality. Look at all the high budget flop films out there.

inhd1,2 what's on these channels?
If it is sports orientated at all you can keep them.
I watch no sports as I never was a spectator; I am a doer.
Want bandwidth? Give up ESPN and the like.
since your such a doer, go look it up

since your such a doer, go look it up
LMAO! Good one, Vurbano! :haha

inhd1,2 what's on these channels?
If it is sports orientated at all you can keep them.
I watch no sports as I never was a spectator; I am a doer.
Want bandwidth? Give up ESPN and the like.

Not much at all. I was a HD beta tester for Comcast. InHD 1 & 2 were 2 of the 5 channels offered. During the 2 months that I had it, I had the opportunity to see Full Metal Jacket probably 20 times. So is InHD compelling programming??? A short and simple no. A couple of concerts, a few movies you've seen already, a few discovery type programs, a couple of ballgames is what you get.
IMHO, Voom offers this and is better at it. http://www.inhd.com/matrix/matrix.jsp

Gives you some measure of just what the exclusives are worth doesnt it?What they are worth to us is not necessarily proportional to the cost of production. In addition, it all depends on our personal tastes and preferences. I know, exclusives are not worth much to you, vurbano. But, I for one, would be willing to pay extra to have those channels. Nothing's wrong with you or me. Just different tastes, I guess.

But really you have to weigh into the equation of the increased overall bandwidth and PQ such a trade would bring. 3 HD channels at 12 mbps each would mean raising the average bandwidth 1 mbps over the remaining 36 HD channels and more detail on all of the channels.As I mentioned before, I agree with you on this one. I would be willining to sucrifice the number of channels if that could indeed result in a noticeable PQ improvement. But we both know very well, that this is not going to happen. Marketing people will never let VOOM reduce the number of HD channels to save 1 mbps, whether we like this or not.
I wouldnt be so quick to compare costs when I have absolutely no data on how much it costs to produce those exclusives Ilya. Yes, it was just a guess (and I clearly stated that). Are you saying it takes a big budget to produce Moov, Gallery or Auction? Also, let's look at your suggestion to reduce Cinema-10 to Cinema-5. I assume you are suggesting to keep the same amount of movies, but show them on 5 channels instead of 10, correct? But you realize of course that this will not reduce the production costs too much?

Read the last paragraph at this link and then notice who owns the service -

http://inhd.com/pressReleases/press07_19_04_INHDadds.jsp

...maybe a VERY good reason why there is no INHD on Voom.

I thought inHD had it's ties to Cablevision?

since your such a doer, go look it up

Thats exactly what was done.

I am just stating the fact that there are many people that could care less about sports and sports channels. There is no reason to alienate these people for a few more worthless sports oriented channels.

Thats exactly what was done.

I am just stating the fact that there are many people that could care less about sports and sports channels. There is no reason to alienate these people for a few more worthless sports oriented channels.

Does not compute....


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Thats exactly what was done.

I am just stating the fact that there are many people that could care less about sports and sports channels. There is no reason to alienate these people for a few more worthless sports oriented channels. there are approximately 9 million HD sets in homes already. D* has sports and has 13 million subs. How do you think they got them? SUNDAY TICKET and a 12 month contract. Voom has an anemic sports offering and has 30,000 subs. Who is alienating who?

Not much at all. I was a HD beta tester for Comcast. InHD 1 & 2 were 2 of the 5 channels offered. During the 2 months that I had it, I had the opportunity to see Full Metal Jacket probably 20 times. So is InHD compelling programming??? A short and simple no. A couple of concerts, a few movies you've seen already, a few discovery type programs, a couple of ballgames is what you get.
IMHO, Voom offers this and is better at it. http://www.inhd.com/matrix/matrix.jsp
A few concerts over and over = Rave
A few movies ive seen already = Cinema10
Bring on the sports give us INHD!!!!!!! Id trade Worldsport soccer for MLB, NHL etc anyday.

A few concerts over and over = Rave
A few movies ive seen already = Cinema10
Bring on the sports give us INHD!!!!!!! Id trade Worldsport soccer for MLB, NHL etc anyday.

Don't get rid of Rave! In the daytime they air music videos which I hope their library expands, and while the concerts maybe over and over right now, new stuff gets added all the time, I like my music channel! You're advocating more HD with less?

I still wouldn't scrap the Cinema10 channels, just make the genre specific, and keep more movies in the loop like 4 a day per channel.

I would prefer you kill the 999 and some duplicate SDs to bring in INHD, or roll out WM9 already (seriously what's taking so long) and free up some space that way and try to roll out INHD. Even if YOU do not necessarily like these channels (Worldsport? Please MLB/NHL/NBA/NFL is aired by everyone no one is airing good soccer games in HD!) That doesn't mean no one does.