would D's future Tivo dvr tempt those who are with E? (vamps idea)

i also have E and if the new tivo is as great or better than my vip 622 i will be dropping E immediately.

NO way. I have never left DISH for any other dvr. I had the stand alone tivo and sold it because to me it sucked in pq compared to dish's dvr. I added Directv as well as my DISH account, for about a year in 2002 and again last January till this last June and had the HR 21 and it truely sucked. Now I would like to play with an Directv hd tivo but I wouldn't leave DISH. I am a DISH addict. I have to have all the latest receivers, dishes, lnbs . I know I am a geek but I love DISH better. Going on 12 years in January.

Mark my prediction, chances are there will be a new E*Tivo before the new D*Tivo:)

I know this may shock many but If Tivo is smart, they need to extend an olive branch to E* to settle, and agree to forgive most if not all the damages E* has to pay Tivo, in exchange for licensing Tivo's technology.

Charlie may be a risk taker, but he is also frugal, he will like to be able to keep as much of those money in the escrow to himself as possible, so E* and Tivo working out an meaningful agreement is real.

I only suggest Tivo does it before the judge renders his ruling, because once a no-contempt ruling is out, Tivo's leverage will be in the toilet.

very interesting.

Mark my prediction, chances are there will be a new E*Tivo before the new D*Tivo:)

I know this may shock many but If Tivo is smart, they need to extend an olive branch to E* to settle, and agree to forgive most if not all the damages E* has to pay Tivo, in exchange for licensing Tivo's technology.

Charlie may be a risk taker, but he is also frugal, he will like to be able to keep as much of those money in the escrow to himself as possible, so E* and Tivo working out an meaningful agreement is real.

I only suggest Tivo does it before the judge renders his ruling, because once a no-contempt ruling is out, Tivo's leverage will be in the toilet.

Wishful thinking, I think.

Wishful thinking, I think.

could be but it's still an interesting theory. anything could happen. I still see it very difficult for these two to come to an agreement especially when big egos are in the way

Why would anyone with a 622/722 wish to downgrade to a TiVo? I believe cost, programming, yanking programming, and HD-Lite would be more significant factors when it comes to jumping ship over to D* and FiOS TV. The D* TiVO is a non-factor IMO.

Mark my prediction, chances are there will be a new E*Tivo before the new D*Tivo:)

I know this may shock many but If Tivo is smart, they need to extend an olive branch to E* to settle, and agree to forgive most if not all the damages E* has to pay Tivo, in exchange for licensing Tivo's technology.

Charlie may be a risk taker, but he is also frugal, he will like to be able to keep as much of those money in the escrow to himself as possible, so E* and Tivo working out an meaningful agreement is real.

I only suggest Tivo does it before the judge renders his ruling, because once a no-contempt ruling is out, Tivo's leverage will be in the toilet.

And after ruled in contempt, Tivo will say kiss my A__.

And after ruled in contempt, Tivo will say kiss my A__.

I have marked down your prediction, we will see.

I personally have nothing but "contempt" for Tivo. Hope they go the route of SCO (tried to sue everyone for a Linux kernel license).

Slashdot | Grokking SCO's Demise (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/18/1436212)

Check out their stock! During the middle of suites, everyone was thinking of how rich everyone at SCO would be. Sounds kinda like Tivo?

SCOXQ - The SCO Group, Inc. - Google Finance (http://finance.google.com/finance?q=OTC:SCOXQ&client=news)

Perhaps Tivo shareholders want stocks the value of 18 cents? It'll get lower yet for SCO now that Governments (Germany for example) are fining them now as well. Novell is also suing for $20M after being ruled to be the owner of Unix by the court. The hat changed because SCO originally sued Novell saying that Novell's Linux stole some Unix code from SCO. Interesting now that they are getting smaked in reverse that they'd wished they never stated that Linux is Unix hmmm? Would be seriously interesting if a prior art patent was found and purchased by E* for a similar sue fest, hmm?

The best way to get rich long term is to consistantly release new products and services and when the competition get's fearce, continue to inovate and find ways to stand out from the rest. D* siding up with Tivo again is just another "also ran" in my book. Not innovative, as the "from scratch" ViP OS. Is Tivo going to license "Sling" technologies from E*? Wonder if E* couldn't pull the rug out from Tivo for the "network sharing" features of Tivo?

I personally have nothing but "contempt" for Tivo. Hope they go the route of SCO (tried to sue everyone for a Linux kernel license).

Slashdot | Grokking SCO's Demise (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/18/1436212)

Check out their stock! During the middle of suites, everyone was thinking of how rich everyone at SCO would be. Sounds kinda like Tivo?

SCOXQ - The SCO Group, Inc. - Google Finance (http://finance.google.com/finance?q=OTC:SCOXQ&client=news)

Perhaps Tivo shareholders want stocks the value of 18 cents? It'll get lower yet for SCO now that Governments (Germany for example) are fining them now as well. Novell is also suing for $20M after being ruled to be the owner of Unix by the court. The hat changed because SCO originally sued Novell saying that Novell's Linux stole some Unix code from SCO. Interesting now that they are getting smaked in reverse that they'd wished they never stated that Linux is Unix hmmm? Would be seriously interesting if a prior art patent was found and purchased by E* for a similar sue fest, hmm?

The best way to get rich long term is to consistantly release new products and services and when the competition get's fearce, continue to inovate and find ways to stand out from the rest. D* siding up with Tivo again is just another "also ran" in my book. Not innovative, as the "from scratch" ViP OS. Is Tivo going to license "Sling" technologies from E*? Wonder if E* couldn't pull the rug out from Tivo for the "network sharing" features of Tivo?

Sorry to say but the SCO and Tivo issues are not even close to one another. Pretty weak argument in one direction or the other.

And after ruled in contempt, Tivo will say kiss my A__.

You would be amazed how quickly these things can get turned around or just die in litigation limbo...

Remember...we are all still waiting for Microsoft to be split in two...

If DISH is found in contempt and a stay is not issued during appeal, what do you think will happen?

You'll be tickled with glee that the very bane of your existance would have been vanquished? Lol...

You'll be tickled with glee that the very bane of your existance would have been vanquished? Lol...

No, there will be a licensing agreement and a DishTiVo announced very quickly.

An emotional attachment to a TV provider is silly and bordering on insane.

I had no problem switching from cable to Dish back in 1998, and no problem switching back to cable in 2005. I will suscribe to whatever company gives me the most value for my money.

I would have probably already switched to D* based on HD programming and price, if they had carried TVJapan.

And, if the 722Sling does see the light of day, I will most likely switch to Dish again at that point. (If D* had one, I'd consider switching to them.)

An emotional attachment to a TV provider is silly and bordering on insane.

I had no problem switching from cable to Dish back in 1998, and no problem switching back to cable in 2005. I will suscribe to whatever company gives me the most value for my money.

I would have probably already switched to D* based on HD programming and price, if they had carried TVJapan.

And, if the 722Sling does see the light of day, I will most likely switch to Dish again at that point. (If D* had one, I'd consider switching to them.)

...you would be amazed....

I have direcTV now (SD only) but when I get around to buying an HDTV I will be looking to whichever providers can offer me an HD TiVo for their system. It would have to be a TiVo with full Multi-Room Viewing capabilities and all the current standalone features to qualify with me. If TiVo and Dish settle and their offering meets my requirements and is available at that time, it will certainly get full consideration.

I have direcTV now (SD only) but when I get around to buying an HDTV I will be looking to whichever providers can offer me an HD TiVo for their system. It would have to be a TiVo with full Multi-Room Viewing capabilities and all the current standalone features to qualify with me. If TiVo and Dish settle and their offering meets my requirements and is available at that time, it will certainly get full consideration.

I have a strong feeling that you will be truly disappointed with the Tivo offering next year.

I have a strong feeling that you will be truly disappointed with the Tivo offering next year.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

NOT if its offered by D*! Anything by D* is excellent. Anything by D* is awesome. No matter what it is...

D* rules....never say an unkind word about D* (even if its really just about Tivo) !!!!

lol...

:rolleyes: yes...during boring warzone times, I can't resist the sarcasm...:p

I have a strong feeling that you will be truly disappointed with the Tivo offering next year.
Then most likely I will end up going with Time Warner Cable. For that reason alone, I certainly hope you are wrong.

I have a strong feeling that you will be truly disappointed with the Tivo offering next year.

I love how people get ahead of themselves either by thinking it's going to be a disappointment or that it's going to be the greatest thing ever. why don't we all wait and see what's going to happen instead of spreading comments about what it might and might not be? if you're a tivo fan then hope it will be a great thing and if you're not please don't wish it will be a bad thing. i am not a tivo fan but i'm still hoping it will turn out to be something great that maybe will turn me into a tivo fan. if it doesn't i'm sure others will stil love it and i hope they do.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

NOT if its offered by D*! Anything by D* is excellent. Anything by D* is awesome. No matter what it is...

D* rules....never say an unkind word about D* (even if its really just about Tivo)

whoever thinks like that needs their head examined. I for one will always be sincere about D and E. No one should ever blindly defend either provider. just go with one that gives you what you want and be truthful on the good and the bad of both providers. :)

whoever thinks like that needs their head examined. I for one will always be sincere about D and E. No one should ever blindly defend either provider. just go with one that gives you what you want and be truthful on the good and the bad of both providers. :)
Well said

why don't we all wait and see what's going to happen instead of spreading comments about what it might and might not be? .
Havent we all done this, yourself included, in the past week or so when we are discussing what we hope will be included? If we arent going to do that, then these threads become pointless very quickly, IMHO

I love how people get ahead of themselves either by thinking it's going to be a disappointment or that it's going to be the greatest thing ever. why don't we all wait and see what's going to happen instead of spreading comments about what it might and might not be? if you're a tivo fan then hope it will be a great thing and if you're not please don't wish it will be a bad thing. i am not a tivo fan but i'm still hoping it will turn out to be something great that maybe will turn me into a tivo fan. if it doesn't i'm sure others will stil love it and i hope they do.

You know personally I don't care what they come out with for features or even if the Tivo unit hits the market.

The only thing I currently hate is that people are wanting the world with this new DVR. In many threads there are talks about DLB and multi-room viewing. They are all excited that these will be coming back and to this date nothing as been said about any new features.

The best way to look at things right now is to just expect the same features that we already have. This way there will be no disappointment if that is the way it turns out.

whoever thinks like that needs their head examined. I for one will always be sincere about D and E. No one should ever blindly defend either provider. just go with one that gives you what you want and be truthful on the good and the bad of both providers. :)

Now come on Rey......

You aren't supposed to make this much sense in the ware zone.

Havent we all done this, yourself included, in the past week or so when we are discussing what we hope will be included? If we arent going to do that, then these threads become pointless very quickly, IMHO

It is fine to discuss what you would like to see in the new unit. The only problem is when it becomes it has to have this or else type of discussions. This is where the disappointment comes into play once the item is released.

It is fine to discuss what you would like to see in the new unit. The only problem is when it becomes it has to have this or else type of discussions. This is where the disappointment comes into play once the item is released.
I can agree with that

whoever thinks like that needs their head examined. I for one will always be sincere about D and E. No one should ever blindly defend either provider. just go with one that gives you what you want and be truthful on the good and the bad of both providers. :)

Um...that was kind of my point.

An emotional attachment to a TV provider is silly and bordering on insane.

How about an emotional attachment to a DVR platform, Computer Operating System, Musician/Band, or Sports franchise? Part of what makes us human perhaps?

The new D TiVo will not have as many features as the new 722S with the Sling box built in.

The new D TiVo will not have as many features as the new 722S with the Sling box built in.

Do you have a link to the specification for the new D* Tivo box, if not your statment isn't based on any facts.

Now come on Rey......

You aren't supposed to make this much sense in the ware zone.

:D

The new D TiVo will not have as many features as the new 722S with the Sling box built in.
Possibly not. It certainly won't have a sling box built into it since the sling box technology is proprietary to Echostar. I admit that feature, or one like it, would indeed be very nice and worth comparing when the time comes. If the proposed TiVo feature set matches what is available to cable subscribers now, it at least won't be as crippled as current DirecTiVos are.

I suspect the feature set will be somewhere between those two extremes. We won't know until DTV and TiVo give more details. Here is to hoping for the feature set to be on the high side, if for no other reason than to be a better competitor to the 722S.

Havent we all done this, yourself included, in the past week or so when we are discussing what we hope will be included? If we arent going to do that, then these threads become pointless very quickly, IMHO


my friend what i have done is hope what this tivo might do but i did not at any moment try to say that it will have this and that. this was my point. i do understand what you're saying and this is a forum for discussion of many topics but again my point was that we shouldn't try to make opinions a fact. this also applies to me. makes sense :) like jag72 said maybe i shouldn't make too much sense in the war zone :D

I can agree with that

me too:)

Do you have a link to the specification for the new D* Tivo box, if not your statment isn't based on any facts.
this is exactly my point. Rad said it best in bold. people that make statements that are not facts. if you feel that the tivo won't be as good as the new 722s coming up that's fine but stating it as a fact is what i think is wrong

Possibly not. It certainly won't have a sling box built into it since the sling box technology is proprietary to Echostar. I admit that feature, or one like it, would indeed be very nice and worth comparing when the time comes. If the proposed TiVo feature set matches what is available to cable subscribers now, it at least won't be as crippled as current DirecTiVos are.

I suspect the feature set will be somewhere between those two extremes. We won't know until DTV and TiVo give more details. Here is to hoping for the feature set to be on the high side, if for no other reason than to be a better competitor to the 722S.

very well said!

The new D TiVo will not have as many features as the new 722S with the Sling box built in.
ok......possible I guess, but as Rad said, not based on any facts that I am aware of

my friend what i have done is hope what this tivo might do but i did not at any moment try to say that it will have this and that. this was my point. i do understand what you're saying and this is a forum for discussion of many topics but again my point was that we shouldn't try to make opinions a fact. this also applies to me. makes sense :) like jag72 said maybe i shouldn't make too much sense in the war zone :D
Got ya. I must have simply misunderstood your intent. Happens all of the time:up

ok......possible I guess, but as Rad said, not based on any facts that I am aware of

well, I wouldn't be too concerned about it one way or another. certain folks like to split hairs over the minutiae when assessing the facts, while completely ignoring any evidence the bigger picture may offer.

for example, what claim does either D* or Tivo even have to the Slingbox brand to make even the possibility of integration with their collaborated product even possible at this point?

I don't think Slingbox is going to be the deciding factor to the majority of people.

well, I wouldn't be too concerned about it one way or another. certain folks like to split hairs over the minutiae when assessing the facts, while completely ignoring any evidence the bigger picture may offer.

for example, what claim does either D* or Tivo even have to the Slingbox brand to make even the possibility of integration with their collaborated product even possible at this point?
No one said they had any claim to the slingbox brand.
I was simply replying to his quote that stated the new D* tivo will not have as many "features" as the new 722s. Features could mean any number of things. Hey its possible that he is correct, its also possible that he isnt. He simply stated it as fact, and was asked where he was getting the info.

...than it stands as a fact until it is proven otherwise...

for example...the 722s actually exists. that's one BIG feature the new D* Tivo does not have. :D

as far as facts go, that's about as factual as it gets!

...than it stands as a fact until it is proven otherwise...

for example...the 722s actually exists. that's one BIG feature the new D* Tivo does not have. :D

as far as facts go, that's about as factual as it gets!

You can now purchase a 722s receiver, where, I don't see any places selling them. And until it actually gets on the market so you can see what prelaunch features actually make it into the box don't count on it. Just ask the folks with 921's that were expecting firewire support that E* advertised and then pulled.

' until it is proven otherwise...' was a key phrase there. until than, any statement regarding 722s based on existing evidence stands as fact until proven otherwise. its that simple...

I would invest in any DISH DVR's until the Patent suit is settled. Don't need an expensive doorstop.

If DISH didn't steal TiVo's software, you would still be using a DISHplayer. So in effect, all DISH DVR's are TiVo's.


And that is FACT.

' until it is proven otherwise...' was a key phrase there. until than, any statement regarding 722s based on existing evidence stands as fact until proven otherwise. its that simple...

No, the statement that the D*/Tivo box will not have as many features as the 722s is not proven until both the 722s and the D*/Tivo box are available for purchase by a consumer. Companies can and do change the specifications of products and until both products are actually available for purchase so you can compare the feature set you can't make a statement weid made.

' until it is proven otherwise...' was a key phrase there. until than, any statement regarding 722s based on existing evidence stands as fact until proven otherwise. its that simple...
Which still doesnt tell me what the tivo will or wont have as features, and how it could compare to other offerings. There is no spec sheet on it currently. So to say it will not have as many features as another box is pure speculation and no fact at all.

I am not saying it is wrong to speculate, but if you state something in a "factual" manner, dont be suprised if someone calls you for proof to back up your claims.

yes curtis...you can all tell us how much you hate E* later....as of now, your emotive comment adds no value what-so-ever.

thanks though...i know you meant well. :)

yes curtis...you can all tell us how much you hate E* later....as of now, your emotive comment adds no value what-so-ever.

thanks though...i know you meant well. :)

The fact that DISH stole TiVo software is the only fact in this thread.

nice backpedal rad...

sorry, but you attempted to split hairs over a non-existant product.

like I said ... 'big picture'

curtis....thats not a fact either! lol

curtis....thats not a fact either! lol

Wrong. Trial already found DISH guilty of willful infringement of TiVo's patent.

That can not be disputed.

The only thing left is how much they must pay and if the newer DVR's infringe.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/14/ap/business/mainD8GVGT5GF.shtml

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080411-court-smacks-down-dish-network-appeal-in-tivo-patent-case.html

nice backpedal rad...

sorry, but you attempted to split hairs over a non-existant product.

like I said ... 'big picture'

Vamp, neither product exists at the moment. Until then E* and D*/Tivo can say anything they like about what features it would have and then change the actual product, it's happened before, that's a fact. Like I said, don't believe anything until you can actually buy it and see what it has which makes weid's post inaccurate. Don't care about 'big picures' I care about facts.

sure it can be disputed, curtis...since when is the opinion of the courts ever considered a fact? lol...

I mean, if YOU consider the opinion if a court to be an indisputable fact, than I feel sorry for any divorced friends you may have...lmao...:D

rad...my advice to you is to quit while you still think you are ahead...lol...

you've indirectly proven my point...

rad...my advice to you is to quit while you still think you are ahead...lol...

you've indirectly proven my point...

OK, for us simpleton's please clearly make your point.

sure it can be disputed, curtis...since when is the opinion of the courts ever considered a fact? lol...

I mean, if YOU consider the opinion if a court to be an indisputable fact, than I feel sorry for any divorced friends you may have...lmao...:D

Guilty Verdict.
Appeal Fails.

Sounds like fact to me. You can deny it all you want, if it makes you feel better.

curtis, seriously...the opinion of the courts, though upheld by an interpretation of a given law, is still by definition just an opinion...

however given your blind hatred repeatedly displayed here, I do not expect much out of you in terms of reason to be able to understand this...

I can't help you here...

Which still doesnt tell me what the tivo will or wont have as features, and how it could compare to other offerings. There is no spec sheet on it currently. So to say it will not have as many features as another box is pure speculation and no fact at all.

In the interest of continued speculation we could probably guess the probably range of features that a DirecTV TiVo might have. The current HD TiVo for cable is probably a good comparison for what the feature set could be. DTV may implse limits to reduce the set below that, or possibly add unique DTV only features (currently on the NDS boxes) to those. The end result should be somewhat comparable, but almost certainly different in other ways. I strongly doubt it will have slingbox like features.

curtis, seriously...the opinion of the courts, though upheld by an interpretation of a given law, is still by definition just an opinion...

however given your blind hatred repeatedly displayed here, I do not expect much out of you in terms of reason to be able to understand this...

I can't help you here...

So the Jury verdict is not a fact?
The loss of the appeal is not a fact?

You may need help.

blind devotion to what? lol...

i'm not the one exploiting non-existant facts here... :D

innocent men go to jail every day...and according to your logic, if courts opinions are indisputible facts, they can just stay there and rot. :D

I don't want you for my lawyer...:D:D:D

blind devotion to what? lol...

i'm not the one exploiting non-existant facts here... :D

innocent men go to jail every day...and according to your logic, if courts opinions are indisputible facts, they can just stay there and rot. :D

I don't want you for my lawyer...:D:D:D

It is a fact that the jury issued the verdict of infrinement.
It is a fact that the appeals court upheld that verdict.

How hard is that to understand.

how hard is it to understand the possibility that they may be wrong? :D lol

how hard is it to understand the possibility that they may be wrong? :D lol

That does not matter.

it doesn't matter. what matters is that your case for what you consider to be a fact has been successfully disputed.

you need help to manage your emotional attachment to your provider...

it doesn't matter. what matters is that your case for what you consider to be a fact has been successfully disputed.

you need help to manage your emotional attachment to your provider...

Don't think so.


FACT: Found guilty
FACT: Appeal lost.


This can not be disputed.

How can you say that they were not found guilty? Jury issued a verdict: GUILTY.

curtis, seriously...the opinion of the courts, though upheld by an interpretation of a given law, is still by definition just an opinion...


And you accused someone else of splitting hairs?:confused:

And you accused someone else of splitting hairs?:confused:

That is his sole purpose here.

lol...who is splitting hairs? I stated a very general FACT! lol...

poor curtis even had to change his whole argument just to save face here..

it is what it is...
.

He also stated a very simple fact about the lawsuit. Then you went and explained how the courts decision is opinion only (which opens another argument that shouldnt take place here). The fact is that curtis gave proof to back up the his statement that Dish was found guilty, whether you agree with the courts decision or think that jury verdicts are opinion, is irrelevant. It DID happen.

Thats why I say you are splitting hairs.

clarification:

curtis says that it is a fact that E* stole from tivo and supports his claim using the verdict as proof.

vampz refutes curtis stating a verdict does not prove anything factual. to support my case, I state that innocent men go to jail all the time. this is historically accurate therefore proving my refutal of curtis claim.

curtis's new argument. it is a fact that a verdict was judged against E*. which though sounds similiar...is VERY different than his original argument.

in short, the only real fact here is that curtis's blind loyalty for D* and blind hatred for E* severely dampens his credibility.

...and that's just pointing out the obvious. all big picture stuff. splitting hairs not necessary. :D

btw, smith...you right, that argument did not belong here...and like you said, look no further that the initial comment regarding the lawsuit and WHO said it to get an idea of where it went off track. in their blind hatred for E*, they know no limits...

glad you pointed that out.

clarification:

curtis says that it is a fact that E* stole from tivo and supports his claim using the verdict as proof.

vampz refutes curtis stating a verdict does not prove anything factual. to support my case, I state that innocent men go to jail all the time. this is historically accurate therefore proving my refutal of curtis claim.


Actually, a verdict, IMHO, does prove the claim as factual. The facts have to be proven beyond a resonable doubt. Sure, there are cases where verdicts are overturned as new evidence surfaces, that hasnt happend here however. In fact, as he also pointed out the appeal was denied. So as you stated earlier in the thread, the fact remains until proven otherwise, and given the chance, no one has been able to do so.
Curtis may not be stating his argument to your satisfaction, and thats fine, but I think you know his point (I dont see how you couldnt), and are arguing with him just to argue.

this is exactly my point. Rad said it best in bold. people that make statements that are not facts. if you feel that the tivo won't be as good as the new 722s coming up that's fine but stating it as a fact is what i think is wrong

Especially since Dish has not even released the 722S yet. What happens if it never makes it to market?

if you believe a verdict is factual, than I don't want you as my lawyer neither. lol...that just doesn't make sense any way you look at it...

I love the way you blame me for curtis's shortcomings all the time...don't be so obvious...lol....

arguing with him just to argue indeed...:D

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Especially since Dish has not even released the 722S yet. What happens if it never makes it to market?
And since NOTHING is known about the feature set any D*/Tivo DVR might have. Speculation all around IMHO, which as stated before, is fine.

if you believe a verdict is factual, than I don't want you as my lawyer neither. lol...that just doesn't make sense any way you look at it...


Factual based on the evidence that is provided (in a given case), yes. No other way to look at it from my point of view. You of course are free to look at our court systems verdicts any way you see fit.

In any case, arguments on the court system, as you agree, dont have much bearing to the point of the thread. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Vampz and Curtis - Why taint a perfectly good thread with the same old crap you did over and over again. Start another Dish vs Tivo thread if you want to debate court verdicts. IMO it has nothing to do with this thread.

And I apologize to REY also. Didnt mean to help take your thread of course:up

Got ya. I must have simply misunderstood your intent. Happens all of the time:up

i think i didn't express myself clearly either the 1st time. sorry about that :) .later

And I apologize to REY also. Didnt mean to help take your thread of course:up

i got no problem with that. you always get back on track so feel free ;)

I don't think Slingbox is going to be the deciding factor to the majority of people.
+1

Especially since Dish has not even released the 722S yet. What happens if it never makes it to market?

yeah i agree. anything is possible.

i got no problem with that. you always get back on track so feel free ;)

lol...this is just too much...

You have so got to be kidding...:confused:

Dude sides with every aggressor in this forum just to instigate and you praise him for apoligizing every time...:eek:

the loud minority knows no limits to their D*-vangelism...:p

lol...this is just too much...

You have so got to be kidding...:confused:

Dude sides with every aggressor in this forum just to instigate and you praise him for apoligizing every time...:eek:

the loud minority knows no limits to their D*-vangelism...:p

I"m sorry vamps but I don't see what you're talking about. mssmith is a solid member here. The one I see here instigating is you with those comments. Don't you hear yourself when you talk? I think you're alright until you start saying stuff like this.Please don't lash out now at me too because I won't go along with it. :)

I"m sorry vamps but I don't see what you're talking about. mssmith is a solid member here. The one I see here instigating is you with those comments. Don't you hear yourself when you talk? I think you're alright until you start saying stuff like this.Please don't lash out now at me too because I won't go along with it. :)

...remember. the first OT post came from 'some one else'. don't need to admit it for it to be true...

No instigation on my part accept to call out the instigator to begin with...

I don't think Slingbox is going to be the deciding factor to the majority of people.
I agree with you, however, It is a feature that would be nice to have in some form for D*.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about the slingbox features either, and if I was going to watch TV on my PC, I'd rather have Tivo's video on the go features...

I just found it funny how you just say one thing about D*, or even their as-of-yet non-existant Tivo, that is less than outstanding and you get surrounded on all angles by folks who just can't handle it.

I think I pointed out that irony earlier in this thread...hmmm...

i don't really care about the sling box either vamps. but i have to admit that having it built in the dvr is pretty cool don't you?

i don't really care about the sling box either vamps. but i have to admit that having it built in the dvr is pretty cool don't you?

Oh! I definitely think that its cool...no doubt...

Its just that the bandwidth hogging nature of it is a bit of a turn off...

Yet aside from the video streaming, heck...if the thing allows you to have remote control over your DVR over the internet like the original slingbox did, but without that wierd little gadget that simulated the functions of the remote...that alone may be worth the upgrade...streaming video would just be a bonus...

...now you got me thinking...:eek:

:D

Oh! I definitely think that its cool...no doubt...

Its just that the bandwidth hogging nature of it is a bit of a turn off...

Yet aside from the video streaming, heck...if the thing allows you to have remote control over your DVR over the internet like the original slingbox did, but without that wierd little gadget that simulated the functions of the remote...that alone may be worth the upgrade...streaming video would just be a bonus...

...now you got me thinking...:eek:


Streaming video?.Is that like what I can do with my DirecTV DVR+ R22-100?.Watch UTube,My Videos,Photos and Music over Cat5e cable.200 hour SD record/VOD/DVR online scheduler/Mediashare with Tversity.:)

Then if I want to watch a game or two turn on the new to me HR10-250 DirecTivo/480i Component hookup/with 200 hour SD record/DLB/Dual OTA ATSC tuners,DVR online scheduler.;)

Streaming video?.Is that like what I can do with my DirecTV DVR+ R22-100?.Watch UTube,My Videos,Photos and Music over Cat5e cable.200 hour SD record/VOD/DVR online scheduler/Mediashare with Tversity.:)

Then if I want to watch a game or two turn on the new to me HR10-250 DirecTivo/480i Component hookup/with 200 hour SD record/DLB/Dual OTA ATSC tuners,DVR online scheduler.;)

Gee...than why the heck would you can't such a crappy system like the new Directv Tivo...:confused:

LMAO...

Gee...than why the heck would you can't such a crappy system like the new Directv Tivo...:confused:

LMAO...


No actually the HR10-250 is an older DirecTivo but it's new to me because I've never had one.It's going to be interesting to see what features Tivo will put in the DirecTV DVR+ compared to the new DirecTivo in 2009.:)

Gee...than why the heck would you can't such a crappy system like the new Directv Tivo...:confused:

LMAO...
Huh?

Huh?

sarcasm...