Also, do you think Voom should drop all West Coast HD feeds when the DVR is released? Say after 2-3 months after it's release and pursue other HD feeds?

I need one by the end of the year or I'm gone. And I need a release date very soon or I will be gone. My cable company keeps waving their HD DVR under my nose and it smells pretty good.

Hmm... Don't see an option I could vote for... Mine would be something like this:
"Extremely important! But I am willing to wait as long as it takes. Not planning on quiting VOOM any time soon!" ;)

I voted "very" although not a Voom customer yet. DVR would solidify it for me to join. I probably will if they drop the 199 install fee but I'd pay that if a dvr was available now.

Its important to me but much much more important is the pricing. If they pull a HDtivo nobody in their right mind is going to buy one.

Hmm... Don't see an option I could vote for... Mine would be something like this:
"Extremely important! But I am willing to wait as long as it takes. Not planning on quiting VOOM any time soon!" ;)This one has my vote, too.

End of the year at the latest for me I'm afraid.

I want one also... but not willing to put a time limit yet. The choices I have are HDTIVO or 921. Cablevision does not offer a DVR. I will not spend $1000 for either HDTIVO or 921. So in my case I have no choice but wait for VOOM's DVR.

Not important to me really - perhaps because I've never had one and don't know what I'm missing? If they come out with one I'll investigate a little , but unless it was the deal of the century, probably wouldn't be interested.

Well I have kids, and while lately I make excuses to stay home and just "chill" normally I have a semi-active life. There are movies I miss sections of, shows I miss because I watched something else, kids that interrupt, life gets in the way. Right now it's a non-issue, however as the Fall schedule gears up, things will change. Ever since I told my wife Voom will have a recorder (which she was complaing about not having at least a VCR hooked up ... ewww) she asks me about it every so often.

When guests came over we watched Cold Creek Manor and missed the first 20 minutes, my wife turns to me with her coy voice and said "This never would have happened if you had a recorder"... Like I'm on the Voom DVR design team or something and I spilled coke into the prototype.

It's just a nuisance not a hassle, however some people who have TiVo say that they can't live without it now, so to speak, and I can see the benefit of having one. However I have to put the benefit into perspective, I can't see myself through $1,000 on any DVR, maybe when prices drop, so price is an issue. Second is content, I can't see myself rushing to get a DVR for D*, E*, or Cable when they literally have a 1/4 of the HD content, and Voom's new Exclusive Cinema 10 lineup looks more appealing. Plus Voom has Fox Florida in HD for my area. I can't see myself getting a DVR just to own one then fiddle my thumbs wondering what to record, or recording HD at 7mbps.

So I'm another that while it's "very" important to me, I probably won't give up this fall if it's not out.

I can't put a time limit on anything. When an HD-DVR drops into my price range, I'll switch.

Does anyone realize that you can program the stand-alone Tivo (not the DirecTV Tivo) to get VOOM? So what's the problem? A DVR-HD is going to be expensive and I only want to record things I miss.....not to start a collection.

Check the totals on the "Vote board" folks..like I have always said, most folks just don't care about recording lousy programming to watch later...When the amount of QUALITY HD programs inceases, we will feel differently, but as of now, the majority doesnt think the cost justifies it...

I'm another one that see's no option to vote for. I want a HD whole house DVR badly, it's one of these reasons I signed up with Voom instead of Dish. But I won't leave because of not getting it.

HD programming is my main reason for joining with voom. But I'll be recording lots of stuff from SD channels too. The quality of the picture might be high in HD, but not all the content is high quality yet. There's no Farscape in High Def. No Monk. etc.

So my vote would be something like, I'm really looking forward to the soonest possible release of a non buggy, wireless networked HD DVR server and thin clients. It's high on my must have list. But I won't quit Voom over not getting it soon.

Interesting, 94.37% of Voom users so far are willing to wait until the end of the year, then percentages start to fall. Although if Voom takes too long say 2006, there could be a great drop in subscribers.

Since I hardly ever watch Voom, I can wait. I just want them to get it right and not be as buggy as a Dish receiver on release.

Since I hardly ever watch Voom, I can wait. I just want them to get it right and not be as buggy as a Dish receiver on release.

If you hardly ever watch Voom why are you so critical of them?

He only has the basic Voom pack, he is essentially saying he watches OTA, HDNet and Discovery, which to him, are available through E* and V* (except HDNet). I know buddy loves his Bikini Destinations, Miami Beach for me IS BIkini Destinations, besides I'm married, I don't let my wife feel under appreciated, lest she opt to find people to start a Penis Destinations. I hope Voom can get either HDnet or INHD to offer more sports, and variable programming that's always good.

I have VVV and I have more than enough daily HD to keep me busy.

If you hardly ever watch Voom why are you so critical of them?
EXACTLY! You just answered your own question. ;) If you had 2 V-8 sports cars and one of them ran on 7 cylinders, which one would you drive more?

The 7 cylinder one! How in the heck is it running with only 7 cylinders? Let's run it into the ground and find out.

Well I voted for I don't care bring on the programing. I would just like to have the option to sit down almost any time of the day and to be able to tune into a program that is interesting. The repeats of the HD programming is what irritates me. So why would I want to record it and watch it yet one more time?????

Well I voted for I don't care bring on the programing. I would just like to have the option to sit down almost any time of the day and to be able to tune into a program that is interesting. The repeats of the HD programming is what irritates me. So why would I want to record it and watch it yet one more time?????
That's the whole purpose behind a DVR, record what you want during the times you're not watching, then watch it when YOU want to. :)

I think i phrased it very incorrectly. What I meant was. With all of the repeats what is the point of the DVR. You are bound to hit the program you want to watch frequently. So at this time a DVR would just not make any economical sense to me. So bring on the programming and I will reconsider this at a future time. :)
Better now?

Yeah, better now. But if you haven't ever owned a DVR, you are in for a real treat. No more sitting still for 1 1/2 - 2 hours for a movie to finish. You can go get a fresh beer, make some popcorn, put the dog out to poop, go stop the kids from fighting, answer the door, the phone, chase away a door-to-door salesman and never miss a word.

Today, when I saw the Voom DVR was a 2005 intro, my heart sank. Love my VVV, but need that DVR badly. Did I read on a thread that the delay is due to the MPEG4 upgrade? First the upgrade and then the DVR?

Where did you see that?

Here is a paste of some comments on MPEG4, the delay in the DVR due to MPEG4 is a question sadly, not an answer.


Forum: The VOOM Forum Yesterday, 11:26 AM
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Sticky: CEDIA-2004: VOOM (Day Two)
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Posted By Ilya

Whether the MPEG4 upgrade will be mailed to us...

Whether the MPEG4 upgrade will be mailed to us directly or whether installers will be dispatched - not clear yet. But in any case, it's just a PCMCIA card add-on.

As for what "several feel" VOOM...


Forum: The VOOM Forum Yesterday, 09:33 AM
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Sticky: CEDIA-2004: VOOM (Day Two)
Views: 4,784
Posted By Ilya

1. New programming: RSN Cleveland was supposed to...

1. New programming: RSN Cleveland was supposed to be launched last Friday but has been delayed again. Should be coming soon. Nothing else has been mentioned.
2. As I already mentioned MPEG4 (and...


Forum: The VOOM Forum 09-13-2004, 10:03 PM
Replies: 80
Sticky: CEDIA-2004: VOOM (Day Two)
Views: 4,784
Posted By gutter

Enough with the DVR talk. It's going in circles....

Enough with the DVR talk. It's going in circles. I would like to know what was said about the following as well.

1. New programming
2. MPEG4 or WM9 update (I saw that there was a hint of MPEG4...

Did I read on a thread that the delay is due to the MPEG4 upgrade? First the upgrade and then the DVR?Not necessarily. If the MPEG4 release is delayed, the stand-alone DVR can be released without it. However, if the MPEG4 is released soon enough, the DVR will have to support it. At least, this is how I understand it.

I think i phrased it very incorrectly. What I meant was. With all of the repeats what is the point of the DVR. You are bound to hit the program you want to watch frequently. So at this time a DVR would just not make any economical sense to me. So bring on the programming and I will reconsider this at a future time. :)
Better now?


Hmm, I have had VVV since May, I have been wanting to see Red Dragon in HD (very good movie) I haven't because I either missed 15-20 minutes (which I will not start a movie of this type missing that much time) or on too early and the kids are up, or I know I have to go in a few so I don't bother.

So no just because it's VVV doesn't mean they will repeat the same movie/show everyday at precisely one hour difference so that everyone will see it. Also how does OTA repeat?

Looks like only 7% are about to drop Voom because of no DVR, and everyone else is content in waiting until at least end of this year.. that's good.

Yeah, only about 1700 people out of 25000. Not bad more for us!

An HD DVR is important to me. That provides the best options for watching what I want to watch on my own terms. I knew this when I first signed up for Voom, so I bought a DVR that records everything now, but of course cannot record in 1080I. I also wired the dish with siamese cable, so I already have the right configuration for when the DVR comes out. And I'm waiting for Voom to deliver, but would not bail if the DVR was late.

I can wait until the DVR comes out. I have seen cable and other satellite companies coming out with a DVR, but the have little HD channels.

I'm surprised that this forum allows polls to be taken.
129 total votes cast in 7 days doesn't look good for "The Internet's Largest VOOM Forum" stats.

There's 9 people that are history in 7 more days if the PVR is not out, see ya, don't let the dish hit ya in the arse on the way out.

Yes because all registered Voom posters all dropped their panties and ran on here to vote...

Anyhow the most important thing to note is how many people are willing to wait for a while for a quality product. I still think it's important that Voom sales people keep us informed with the status and what's going on. Judging from the video here on SatGuys I'm really looking forward to the DVR.

Well, we have been using a cable HD DVR the past week and we love it...even the wife who generally cares very little about these things. VOOM had better provide their much anticipated DVR sooner than later. Also, after the 6 month cable promo price expires, we agreed that we would look at a single "whole home" provider. VOOM needs to provide an affordable whole home solution - multiple rental and mirror fees make their current pricing model too expensive.

Like a couple others, i am not a VOOM user and won't consider VOOM unless there is a DVR. I won't go w. any provider unless they have a method to record. We got accustomed to time shifting so we can watch when we want AND skip commercials.
Right now all we have is a BEV 6000 for HD. Would upgrade our D* to HD IF they had more of it. Would def. get HD fm. Comcast for their very few HD offerings - but they don't offer an HD DVR here in the Bay Area.

I just have been reading the last week in business pages that VOOM probably won't make it thru 2005 - so i guess that may be off the table. Advantage of Comcast is that you only rent the DVR.

...mike

I compare DVR to cell phones and ATM's. Before you used one and got used to the convenience you didn't realize what you were missing. With DVR commercials are a thing of the past. Hour long shows can be viewed in 42 minutes. 30 second skip is just about the time between plays in a football game. Believe me, once your hooked, you'll never watch TV the same way again! :yes

Nothing new on the DVR front right?

I won't go w. any provider unless they have a method to record. Right now all we have is a BEV 6000 for HD. ...mike
Mike, I don't get it, how are you timeshifting with a 6000? :confused:

169time and R5000 both can work with an E* 6000. I'd love to get Voom, but I want to be able to archive shows above and beyond mere DVR functions. Heck, give me a good FireWire port and I'd be happy.

Back to Dvlos's original question, I agree that it would be good to drop the west coast feeds once the DVR is out, IF other HD content is available by then.

Also, I would be in favor of Voom discontinuing the SD feeds of the HD premium channels. I realize that they probably have contracts requiring them to PAY for the SD feeds as part of each premium package, but perhaps they don't have to actually broadcast them? Such a waste of bandwidth. I bet they are NEVER watched.

Nothing new on the DVR front right?
I just saw a post fly by in another group threatening within the next three weeks. Rumor right?

A DVR is the ONLY thing preventing me from jumping on board. :no

I just saw a post fly by in another group threatening within the next three weeks. Rumor right?

A DVR is the ONLY thing preventing me from jumping on board. :noWelcome to the Forum!
Three weeks??? That would make a lot of people happy! I really hope VOOM can pull it off before the Holidays!

Welcome to the Forum!
Thanks!

I really hope VOOM can pull it off before the Holidays!
Yup. It may be what makes them sink or swim...

Its not for me right now....programming means more to me. I never felt the need to actually save a program....the HD content is repeated so much that I can catch something over and over again. A huge part of it for me is the pricetag...I cant afford anything else right now. Im paying 55 bucks a mth for VOOM while maintaining my Directv sub for the rest of my family. Not to mention Earthlink through my cable provider. Right now just for tv and a computer Im at around 175 a mth and Im not rich so its a something I can really never do unless its free. And we all know...its not going to be free.

My best friends, a married couple, have given me hell for the last 5 years about me hating cable and being mr satellite. When I moved to MN 5 years ago I got Direct TV with NFL Sunday ticket, then I got Tivo, then I got Microsoft Ultimate TV with dual tuners. They came over to watch NFL games they couldn't get, but chided me for how much money I spent compared to their zero money out of pocket for cabletv. They had 4 rooms. I chided them about how I never missed a show because I wasn't home. I was in heaven when I had ultimate tv. I could record two pgms and watch a recorded pgm, I had PIP (no one then had that- that worked anyway), I could also see the program guide up to three weeks so I knew what was going to happen two weeks ahead of time. It was truely tv heaven.

Then lightning struck my house. I got a 43" widescreen HDTV monitor, got it home, found out I needed HD box and provider. Then no-one had it. I also had to buy all new equipment for satellite. well I was tapped out and went to cable because they atleast had 6 hd channels. That was it. I was a changed man. Once I saw HD, I knew I was never going back to not having HD. I no longer had DVR, but I didn't care. HD was better than DVR'ing by a long shot.

Then I got VOOM. Almost 5 months now. I cannot imagine not having Voom. It is almost the level of tv heaven I was in before.

But no DVR. Now my best friends got 2! dvr's from their cable company, $12.95/mo each, zero money out of pocket. I showed them how to use it. It records two pgms at once, PIP.. all the bells and whistles.

Tonight the wife tells me they don't like it because they can't watch 1 recorded pgm on the other's dvr box, like you can on VOOM's DVR when it comes out. (they saw the video on satguys.us website). They also can't see more than 5 days out on the program guide. Basically, they don't get the home networking, just straight dvr.

Now they're jealous.

Isn't life grand? : - >