We started towards this discussion in another thread. Assuming the new 922 were made available to D* subs in addition to E* subs, what service would you choose? I know that many here have stated, if it werent for equipment, they would swap to D*. Or if D* had the ViP series they would offer it all. So lets see where we stand. Would it make a difference to you at all? Or would you stay put with who you are with and the equipment you have?

This is assuming the 922 makes it to market with the features we have heard that it has of course

Just so everyone would know. I voted the 922 and D*. While I am more than happy with the HR, IF the 922 were available with the feature set that we have heard, I would pick it up.

That said I would not swap to E* JUST for the 922.

Just so everyone would know. I voted the 922 and D*. While I am more than happy with the HR, IF the 922 were available with the feature set that we have heard, I would pick it up.

That said I would not swap to E* JUST for the 922.

great poll msmith. I voted the same as you and feel pretty much the same as you do. I'm happy with my HR21-100 but there's no doubt that the 922s is a superior DVR IMO.

If everyone would give a reason why you voted they way you did I would appreciate it.

I would switch to D if they offered the 922. I like my 622 and 722 but a 922 with D sports (MLB and NFL) I would switch.

If everyone would give a reason why you voted they way you did I would appreciate it.

yeah,we have 5 votes but only three explanations. don't be bashful now :D

922 on dish will be great then i can move my curent sling to my FTA Farm..

If direct use it then you wuld beable to view true PQ like on the HR23 that has comparable quality to the VIP recevers dish offers..

Come on direct get with the program your HR recevers are giving direct a bad name for best in HD!!!!

I would put a variation of this poll in the D* and E* forums to get greater feedback, but I dont want to upset the natives in either camp

If direct use it then you wuld beable to view true PQ like on the HR23 that has comparable quality to the VIP recevers dish offers..


I dont really understand this statement. Can you explain?

Since I know little about the 922 and have no issues with my HR20, I picked, "keep my HR". Of course that can easily change if and when the 922 becomes available with Direct and it is worth it for me to "upgrade"

If the 922 was available for D*, I would switch immediately due to the fact of seeing Buffalo Sabres (MSG-HD Channels), the Yankees (YES Network) and the MLB Channel.

My 722 VIP Receiver is the reason I am still with E*.

Until they have a working , bug-free, model this is pointless (which they didn't have at CES).

It WAS meant to be a hypothetical thread:up Naturally for comparison purposes we will assume that the box works, is bug free (for the most part), has the feature set that has been rumored, and the world doesnt fly into the sun:D

As this is hypothetical, how about 922 and Fios?

Otherwise, I voted 922 and D.

As this is hypothetical, how about 922 and Fios?

Otherwise, I voted 922 and D.
I decided to keep it tied to the two sat companies simply because thats what the MAJORITY of us sub to, and they are available nationwide. That is an interesting thought though (even though most of us dont have Fios available)

Until they have a working , bug-free, model this is pointless (which they didn't have at CES).


has the 922 been released to the public? no. will it be released before the bugs are fixed? no. do we all know this? yes. the poll might be pointless to you but to others it's not. we already know most if not all the features the 922 will have. most of us know how good E dvr's are. that's what the poll is based on.

has the 922 been released to the public? no. will it be released before the bugs are fixed? no. do we all know this? yes. the poll might be pointless to you but to others it's not. we already know most if not all the features the 922 will have. most of us know how good E dvr's are. that's what the poll is based on.


Exactly the point:up

Until they have a working , bug-free, model this is pointless (which they didn't have at CES).Why ?? Directv came out with a Bug Free Model? Yea right!;)

I would switch to D if they offered the 922. I like my 622 and 722 but a 922 with D sports (MLB and NFL) I would switch.

could not agree more!

Why ?? Directv came out with a Bug Free Model? Yea right!;)



you voted for the 922 and E right? :)

Yep! Not a fan of NFL ST
I'm a fan of Premiums.

Yep! Not a fan of NFL ST
I'm a fan of Premiums.

i sent you a 2nd PM so if you want respond:)

I picked the 922 and E*. I have nerver been a fan of D* programming or equipment. The only thing D* offers (IMO) is their sports, and I could care less about that. D* channel line up, receivers and remotes are not up to snuff. Just call me an E* fanboy, I'll take the licks.

I picked the 922 and E*. I have nerver been a fan of D* programming or equipment. The only thing D* offers (IMO) is their sports, and I could care less about that. D* channel line up, receivers and remotes are not up to snuff. Just call me an E* fanboy, I'll take the licks.I agree . The Top 250 has a much better line up the D* Choice Extra. And E* premiums put D*'s to Shame as far as Price and options.

E* premiums put D*'s to Shame as far as Price and options.

this is true. that's why I don't have them for now.

D* and Starz Super pack is a Good Value, But only if you have HD, Because SD customers don't get Comedy or Kids and Family

"This is assuming the 922 makes it to market with the features we have heard that it has of course"

If all of the above and everything else DirecTV's units offer. I would be willing to give it a try BUT would stay with DirecTV services.

"This is assuming the 922 makes it to market with the features we have heard that it has of course"

If all of the above and everything else DirecTV's units offer. I would be willing to give it a try BUT would stay with DirecTV services.


the 922 would not be enough to make me switch to E. I'm happy with D but would love to have the 922s with D service.

the 922 would not be enough to make me switch to E. I'm happy with D but would love to have the 922s with D service.

Thats where I am, as stated before. I wish everyone that voted would post though. Why wouldnt someone with E* already not upgrade if given the option and if they were going to keep E*? I didnt think anyone would pick that option honestly

922 and E. Been very happy with DISH so see no reason to switch.

Don't need the 922 or DISH Network. Happy where I am.

Don't need the 922 or DISH Network. Happy where I am.
Where's that?

HR-20, -21, and -10.

922 offers nothing I would use.

This is of course a terrible poll not only because it leads the respondent with the question to beg the desired result, but also the question has an unatainable premise that somehow E* would help D* in competing against E* itself.

I know that E* has said they will be willing to offer the 922 to the cable companies, but you can bet only if such offer do not put Dishnetwork in any disadvantage.

First off, there were NO desired results. What one chooses to vote does not have any bearing on me personally. I dont see how I possibly led anyone to vote one way or another, I gave several options, and I think they are pretty fair. If one does not think so, thats fine.

Also, I never said it WOULD put E* at a disadvantage, I implied that it COULD potentially cause them to lose customers. It is certianly within the realm of possibility. By the same reasoning, it could also cause them to pick some up also.


Edit: This is of course all dependant on E* even making the box available to D* as a few posters have mentioned. I dont think they ever will

...Also, I never said it WOULD put E* at a disadvantage, ...

Just because you have failed to recognize it does not make your poll better. One's intention has no bearing on the quality of the poll, if you insist I was wrong about your intention.

Wasn't really trying to make the best poll ever:p

I simply wanted to get a feel for what some subs (E* subs mainly since I posted about this poll in a thread there) would do if this box was potentially offered to D*. Thats it.

...I simply wanted to get a feel for what some subs (E* subs mainly since I posted about this poll in a thread there) would do if this box was potentially offered to D*. Thats it.

That is the problem, you cannot find the answer to this question from your poll results. That is another reason why it is a bad poll:)

So far 53% said they wanted the 922 and E*, they can be anyone who has a TV.

So far 32% said they wanted the 922 and D*, they can be anyone who has a TV.

This is of course a terrible poll not only because it leads the respondent with the question to beg the desired result, but also the question has an unatainable premise that somehow E* would help D* in competing against E* itself.

I know that E* has said they will be willing to offer the 922 to the cable companies, but you can bet only if such offer do not put Dishnetwork in any disadvantage.


i don't see why E wouldn't help D. Malone and Ergen are good buddies no? it wouldn't shock most of us if these two are helping each other out in some way.

That is the problem, you cannot find the answer to this question from your poll results. That is another reason why it is a bad poll:)

So far 53% said they wanted the 922 and E*, they can be anyone who has a TV.

So far 32% said they wanted the 922 and D*, they can be anyone who has a TV.


no one is holding a gun to your head. you don't have to study the poll and you certainly don't have to post in it either. why bother with it if it's that terrible? :)

Well let's see 922 pulls 120 watts?.UHF Remote antenna?.Remote not backlit?.Channel numbers on screen?.Dual TV outputs one HD,the other SD?.No interest for me.I'll stay with DirecTV's HRxxs.;)

That is the problem, you cannot find the answer to this question from your poll results. That is another reason why it is a bad poll:)

So far 53% said they wanted the 922 and E*, they can be anyone who has a TV.

So far 32% said they wanted the 922 and D*, they can be anyone who has a TV.


I have to ask, whats your real point?
Is there a better way to conduct this poll or ask these questions? Probably. I chose this way. It asks what I wanted to ask clearly, and gets answers to that question.
I guess if it lacking in your opinion you could start a new one. I would be glad to vote in it.

I have to ask, whats your real point?
Is there a better way to conduct this poll or ask these questions? Probably. I chose this way. It asks what I wanted to ask clearly, and gets answers to that question.
I guess if it lacking in your opinion you could start a new one. I would be glad to vote in it.

No, I just pointed out why your poll failed to be objective, then after you told me your true intention, also pointed out why you have failed to obtain your desired answer.

Only expressing my veiw, you don't have to agree of course, but you can't ask me to stop just because you are annoyed, especially not in a "war zone":)

I did not go into the regular thread to call on you did I?

Why do people come to a "war zone" if they can't stand even the least bit of heat?

What points have you been making here all along? Clearly trying to put the best light on D*, and not on E*. Nothing wrong with that, just don't expect you should get a free ride, not in the war zone at least.

The only thing that slightly annoyed me is that you acted like you knew my intentions for the poll to begin with, when you clearly did not. Other than that, I have no problems with you commenting in the thread, none at all. I also did not ask you to stop, I asked you to make a better one if you think this one is not up to the task, again, I will be more than happy to vote in it.

no one is holding a gun to your head. you don't have to study the poll and you certainly don't have to post in it either. why bother with it if it's that terrible? :)

I am not going to speak to you in the same tone because you have been even handed:)

The only thing that slightly annoyed me is that you acted like you knew my intentions for the poll to begin with, when you clearly did not. Other than that, I have no problems with you commenting in the thread, none at all. I also did not ask you to stop, I asked you to make a better one if you think this one is not up to the task, again, I will be more than happy to vote in it.

I speculated your intention based on the pattern of which you have been posting here. Even your later explanation did not really refute my speculation, becasue as far as I am concerned, proposing a scenario that turns the advantage which belongs to E*, into its competitor's without any practical basis, then ask who might benefit from it, to me is at a minimum misleading.

The fact now you insist that you were innocent doesn't register much with me:) That said, I have no problem with and in fact enjoy your comments most of the time:)

I speculated your intention based on the pattern of which you have been posting here. Even your later explanation did not really refute my speculation, becasue as far as I am concerned, proposing a scenario that turns the advantage which belongs to E*, into its competitor's without any practical basis, then ask who might benefit from it, to me is at a minimum misleading.
I can possibly see the confusion. There was the start of a similiar discussion in another thread about E* offering the 922 to other companies, D* included. I got to thinking that it might be interesting to see what the results of a poll might be if that were to happen and people had this choice. If you were not in on the previous conversation, my intentions might not have been clear, but thats all they were. I was not trying to conduct an accurate scientific study, just wanted to get some feedback with the poll, and peoples comments on why they voted the way that they did. Some gave us that feedback, some did not.

Perhaps I could have worded the questions differently, or included more choices, however I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.

Sorry if you did not see it that way, or still are not convinced. Trust me, if I wanted to make the poll favor D* or make E* look bad, I could have worded the options much differently.

i don't see why E wouldn't help D. Malone and Ergen are good buddies no? it wouldn't shock most of us if these two are helping each other out in some way.

I personally don't think that Echostar will help Directv but since they are a different company than Dish Network you just never know.

I voted 922 and sticking with E*. I originally went to E* because of Turbo (coming from TWC and before that Comcast), and that is why I will stay. The 922 is icing on the cake, and I will take that as a second receiver and move my 722 into the bedroom.

As for this argument about the validity of the poll, I found the poll interesting and relevant enough to vote and explain myself. I wouldn't extrapolate national figures based on the voting, but it was still interesting. Granted, it seems unlikely that E* would ever offer D* the 922, but it seemed equally unlikely that they would offer it to lowly cable co's, but low and behold... Its like windows running on a Mac! So lets just wait and see.

I voted to keep my 722 and stay with Dish. The only reason for me to upgrade my receiver is to go dual HD. There is currently no receiver, even the 922 that can do that ... a dual HD receiver will be the only reason why I would upgrade.

Now the 922 can do HD over the network, but does that work for "live" tv? I have also heard that the HD is currently only 1.5Mb/sec, so the HD would be HD "lite". Close, but not close enough ...

I personally don't think that Echostar will help Directv but since they are a different company than Dish Network you just never know.



I hear ya. In one of the threads someone asked at the Dish booth this question and supposedly the people from Echostar mentioned that they were willing to offer the 922s to Directv. will Directv accept is a different story.

if you say so. :rolleyes:didn't you said yourself that this is the warzone? can't take the heat?you're talking about my tone yet yours was not the best either. you're the one that came in here criticizing a poll that you were not obligated to vote in and much less post in. you have the right to post your opinion.persisting that your opinion is the right one is something else. you feel the need to dish out the heat? that's fine but accept that heat in return.as far as the poll goes,I see many that are just fine with it.Is that alright with you?


I've always respected your opinion but please don't hammer it in just because a few or more disagree with it.We read it the 1st time. If we can post here in the war zone,we can also read what the other posts contain.

Let me clarify, first off I hope you noticed the :)

Secondly I did not mind your previous post to me at all.

Thirdly when I said the "tone", I was jokingly saying I would not use the same tone I used on msmith198025 and apply the same tone on you beause you are more unbiased than him.

I hope you feel at ease now.

BTW dishing out the heat is the nature of the war zone. Please don't be alarmed, especially if the heat is not on you.

I hear ya. In one of the threads someone asked at the Dish booth this question and supposedly the people from Echostar mentioned that they were willing to offer the 922s to Directv. will Directv accept is a different story.
What purpose would Direct have in accepting Dish hardware? Direct has many more subs already. They would not want to pay their competition for something they can develop themselves. The increase in the number of subs due to the use of the 922 will be minimal at best. Most sat subs are not technology geeks like many of us on this site.

It all depends on what kind of terms/deal D* can work out with E* if in fact it does become an option. For the most part, thats a good point though Dodger.

What purpose would Direct have in accepting Dish hardware? Direct has many more subs already. They would not want to pay their competition for something they can develop themselves. The increase in the number of subs due to the use of the 922 will be minimal at best. Most sat subs are not technology geeks like many of us on this site.

This basically sums it up.

Most subs will never use those features, they just want a DVR that will record shows.

What purpose would Direct have in accepting Dish hardware? Direct has many more subs already. They would not want to pay their competition for something they can develop themselves. The increase in the number of subs due to the use of the 922 will be minimal at best. Most sat subs are not technology geeks like many of us on this site.


the same purpose they have by accepting a Tivo HD Dvr for Directv.

the same purpose they have by accepting a Tivo HD Dvr for Directv.
Not really the same though as TiVO is not another competing DBS provider. Also, at the time of TiVO, TiVO was pretty much the only (one of the best) DVRs. It was cheaper for Direct to pay TiVO to use their DVR vs. developing their own. And with the DVR itself as a new technology, Direct knew that this would be a new niche to exploit, and a lot of potential subs will be willing to venture into the DVR field (including the average joe).

Now Direct already has their own DVR that pretty much provides the needs for the overwhelming majority of their sub base and potential sub base. There are also several really good companies making DVRs that Direct can easily contract with. The function of these DVRs are way beyond what the average joe is going to use and need. There is really no reason for Direct to put money into Dish's pocket by using their equipment. It will not benefit Direct enough as the number of subs will grow very little due to the use of Dish equipment.

Id love more storage, and I hate echostar, so Id take it and Directv. I wont jump to any other dvr (directv tivo included; like my HR22 and the 100 hours) unless it gives me more storage.

BTW, polls vs provider are worthless here and DBS. Dish wins here, D* wins there.

This basically sums it up.

Most subs will never use those features, they just want a DVR that will record shows.

I can hardly believe this comes from a big TiVo fan like you, TiVo has been touting all those features lately too.

Not really the same though as TiVO is not another competing DBS provider. ...

Despite my turning up the heat on msmith198025, I must agree with him a similar argument can be made of E*, now separate from DISH.

But one can at a minimum speculate that if it even is possible, the HR922:) will be less feature rich than the VIP922, just like the DirecTiVo is less feature rich than a TiVo, and in the end even if it happens, another poll will still be needed to take into consideration of this factor:)

Not really the same though as TiVO is not another competing DBS provider.

Echostar is not another competing DBS provider either. Remember that Dish Network and Echostar are two different companies. Dish is the DBS service and Echostar sell hardware including FTA systems.

Echostar is not another competing DBS provider either. Remember that Dish Network and Echostar are two different companies. Dish is the DBS service and Echostar sell hardware including FTA systems.


Correct.But last time I checked Charlie Ergen owns both of them so there still is a possibility that technology from other company's systems could find it's way into Dish's DVRs don't you think?.;)

Though the polls on the Web are not scientific so take them with a grain of salt, but the result of this poll seems to tell us the vast majority of the people like the 922 more than what they currently use, no matter which provider they are currently with:)

Yepp, 56 votes makes this poll a good snapshot of how the community feels.

Since I have both Direc and dish its a very easy answer.

The only reason I stay with dish is for the 722.

Thoses folks who have with Direc dvrs (Hr22\23) have no Idea
how much better dishes 722 is.

Not even a fair fight. I cant stand direc HR22. Clunky and slow performing.
The guide and fast forwarding is like molases.

Direct has the superior programming.

I love the Center Ice as well as the NFL ticket.

I would miss the Travel Channel but heck I still harbor

resentment towards dishes move against Voom.

In short:

922 with Direc tv...I would be able to finally say Sayonara Dish!

...In short:

922 with Direc tv...I would be able to finally say Sayonara Dish!

What happens if 922 will only be for DISH but never happen for D*? Never say Sayonara DISH?:)

What happens if 922 will only be for DISH but never happen for D*? Never say Sayonara DISH?:)

The New HD-TiVo is coming to D*.

Let's add to the poll an option for this.

Thoses folks who have with Direc dvrs (Hr22\23) have no Idea
how much better dishes 722 is.

Not even a fair fight. I cant stand direc HR22. Clunky and slow performing.
The guide and fast forwarding is like molases.

!:yikes:clap:yes

The New HD-TiVo is coming to D*.

Let's add to the poll an option for this.

I'd say at this time, the chance of the new DirecTiVo happening for D* is about the same as the 922 happening for D*, in that spirit I agree, as long as we are talking about things that are likely never going to happen, have fun!

I'd say at this time, the chance of the new DirecTiVo happening for D* is about the same as the 922 happening for D*, in that spirit I agree, as long as we are talking about things that are likely never going to happen, have fun!


It's the same thing with a 922 with E*.Don't count on it until you see it being installed.;)

Example: E* will have 150 HD channels in 2008.:confused:

The tivo option would be out of place here if for no other reason, we have NO idea of the feature set it would have. IF it even gets produced. Of course the 922 could get pushed to the back burner also.

The tivo option would be out of place here if for no other reason, we have NO idea of the feature set it would have. IF it even gets produced. Of course the 922 could get pushed to the back burner also.

I agree, that is why I am not holding my breadth for 922 on E* either, but there are clear differences here, while no one knows if 922 on D* or the new TiVo on D* will look like or even be possible, 922 on E* had been shown at CES, we know it is a working product that needs sweaking.

And we also know E* is probably considering 922 on E* the top priority at this time if they are to get back in the HD game. All things considered 922 on E* is something for real.

What happens if 922 will only be for DISH but never happen for D*? Never say Sayonara DISH?:)

I will not say goodbye to dish. TV watching is just to smooth on the 722.

Its truely is in a class by itself.

Here's my weak attemp at an analogy.
Maybe someone in the know can do better?

Dish-722....:: Cadilac

Direc Hr22 : Ford Tourus

Att uverse HD Dvr: Altima

I will not say goodbye to dish. TV watching is just to smooth on the 722.

Its truely is in a class by itself.

Here's my weak attemp at an analogy.
Maybe someone in the know can do better?

Dish-722....:: Cadilac

Direc Hr22 : Ford Tourus

Att uverse HD Dvr: Altima


Sure comparing the 722 or 922(if it shows up) to DirecTV's HRs is like comparing DirecTV's HR10-250 DirecTivo to Dish's 921.:rolleyes:

DirecTV's HRs and R22s are DirecTV's first in house HDDVR andSDDVR.The difference is DirecTV is putting their money where their mouth is with DirecTV's CE program I have never witnessed before such a quick advancement of features as this.By this year I expect DirecTV's HRs to start giving Dish some serious competition when it comes to HDDVR features and with the addition of the new HD DirecTivo that will be a two knockout punch that DirecTV will have to offer compared to their competitors.As DirecTV will have two options of HDDVRs when it comes to provider choice.;)

As for SDDVRs DirecTV's R22 there is none better.The R22 has the same features as the HRs without the HD or HD Access Fee.:)

Sure comparing the 722 or 922(if it shows up) to DirecTV's HRs is like comparing DirecTV's HR10-250 DirecTivo to Dish's 921.:rolleyes:

DirecTV's HRs and R22s are DirecTV's first in house HDDVR andSDDVR.The difference is DirecTV is putting their money where their mouth is with DirecTV's CE program I have never witnessed before such a quick advancement of features as this.By this year I expect DirecTV's HRs to start giving Dish some serious competition when it comes to HDDVR features and with the addition of the new HD DirecTivo that will be a two knockout punch that DirecTV will have to offer compared to their competitors.As DirecTV will have two options of HDDVRs when it comes to provider choice.;)

As for SDDVRs DirecTV's R22 there is none better.The R22 has the same features as the HRs without the HD or HD Access Fee.:)

while I agree that the CE program is a good thing and I actively participate in it, lately it's taking a step backwards. areas that were working better are now going back to it's old ways. D lately isn't putting much effort into it. i've said this before, they're fighting a battle they can't win. this line of dvr's lacks processing power, period. improvements in software can only compensate so much.

I will not say goodbye to dish. TV watching is just to smooth on the 722.

Its truely is in a class by itself.

Here's my weak attemp at an analogy.
Maybe someone in the know can do better?

Dish-722....:: Cadilac

Direc Hr22 : Ford Tourus

Att uverse HD Dvr: Altima


i pretty much agree with your assessment here except that I would put the Att Dvr as a KIA Rio :D

i pretty much agree with your assessment here except that I would put the Att Dvr as a KIA Rio :D

lol...kia...I like that better!!!

while I agree that the CE program is a good thing and I actively participate in it, lately it's taking a step backwards. areas that were working better are now going back to it's old ways. D lately isn't putting much effort into it. i've said this before, they're fighting a battle they can't win. this line of dvr's lacks processing power, period. improvements in software can only compensate so much.


We will see won't we?.;):)

We will see won't we?.;):) Yea How many years from now?

while I agree that the CE program is a good thing and I actively participate in it, lately it's taking a step backwards. areas that were working better are now going back to it's old ways. D lately isn't putting much effort into it. i've said this before, they're fighting a battle they can't win. this line of dvr's lacks processing power, period. improvements in software can only compensate so much. Exactly why I stopped with the CE process. At least with national software ,you know what to expect. CE process spends more time fixing the things that got F-ED up from the last 4 CE releases.

Exactly why I stopped with the CE process. At least with national software ,you know what to expect. CE process spends more time fixing the things that got F-ED up from the last 4 CE releases.
And we're glad you did.;)

That's part of the point of the CE program, get the code out to a large population then just a small test group, to flush out problems before the code goes national. If you don't want to help make things better then all then you did the right thing and stopped doing it.

And we're glad you did.;)

That's part of the point of the CE program, get the code out to a large population then just a small test group, to flush out problems before the code goes national. If you don't want to help make things better then all then you did the right thing and stopped doing it. I helped make things better. I stopped doing D* work for them . And let me know when it gets better?:rolleyes: ""Great Idea lets get as many D* subscribers who 90% aren't computer programmers to animal test our software""" WOW 2 years later still barely any futher then Day 1.

I helped make things better. I stopped doing D* work for them . And let me know when it gets better?:rolleyes: ""Great Idea lets get as many D* subscribers who 90% aren't computer programmers to animal test our software""" WOW 2 years later still barely any futher then Day 1.

So you're saying that the HR2X series is the same as when it was released on day 1. Guess you missed:

- Media Share
- 30sec skip/slip option
- Option for direct access to guide of filters
- DirecTV on Demand
- Online Scheduler
- Direct2PC
- AM21 ATSC tuners hardware and support
- Native support for WGA600N wireless adapters
- Elimination of phone line requirement when internet connected
- Hide SD channels that have HD counterparts
- Expand IR remote codes from 2 to 8
- Native resolution passthrough
- Weather Channel "Locals on the 8's" support
- SWM hardware and support
- Plus a few in CE testing currently that aren't to be discussed outside the CE forum

And you don't need to be a computer programmer to do CE testing, just a DirecTV user that has an interest in making things better vs. just b*tching all the time about them.

I guess it depends on how you define "barely":p

So you're saying that the HR2X series is the same as when it was released on day 1. Guess you missed:

- Media Share
- 30sec skip/slip option
- Option for direct access to guide of filters
- DirecTV on Demand
- Online Scheduler
- Direct2PC
- AM21 ATSC tuners hardware and support
- Native support for WGA600N wireless adapters
- Elimination of phone line requirement when internet connected
- Hide SD channels that have HD counterparts
- Expand IR remote codes from 2 to 8
- Native resolution passthrough
- Weather Channel "Locals on the 8's" support
- SWM hardware and support
- Plus a few in CE testing currently that aren't to be discussed outside the CE forum

And you don't need to be a computer programmer to do CE testing, just a DirecTV user that has an interest in making things better vs. just b*tching all the time about them.And out of all this which ones work they way they are supposed too. And alot of which is not ground breaking at all.

I'd rather bitch.!! When D* starts paying me then I'll worry about making their equipment better.

And out of all this which ones work they way they are supposed too. And alot of which is not ground breaking at all.
Well for me all of them work as advertised. Yea I know nothing works for you with DirecTV hardware. But this list shows that are just an angry person that has an ax to grind since it shows many new features have been added which counters your argument that barley anything has come out of the CE process.

I guess it depends on how you define "barely":p


:D this place is on fire today!!!!!!:D:D

it shows many new features have been added which counters your argument that barley anything has come out of the CE process.

Which was the only problem I had with his statement, even though I knew he was stretching it just a little. Things have been added, and much has changed. If one thinks they are important or not is irrelevant to the statement as it was made, it has changed, and for the better in most cases.

And we're glad you did.;)

That's part of the point of the CE program, get the code out to a large population then just a small test group, to flush out problems before the code goes national. If you don't want to help make things better then all then you did the right thing and stopped doing it.



which is why i participate,to help and report positive and negative issues. but rad,lately as in the last 4 weeks the CE's have been poor and what was supposedly fixed is having problems again. I've read quite a few posts with reports mentioning similar issues.


having said that, the CE has also been a great thing too! My HR21-100 is so much better than what it was almost a year ago thanks to this program. many new features have been added which you already posted.they are listening. being use to this is why I'm a bit frustrated lately with the last 4 or 5 CE's within the one current cycle we're on.

which is why i participate,to help and report positive and negative issues. but rad,lately as in the last 4 weeks the CE's have been poor and what was supposedly fixed is having problems again. I've read quite a few posts with reports mentioning similar issues.


having said that, the CE has also been a great thing too! My HR21-100 is so much better than what it was almost a year ago thanks to this program. many new features have been added which you already posted.they are listening. being use to this is why I'm a bit frustrated lately with the last 4 or 5 CE's within the one current cycle we're on.
Yea, as usual some folks have problems and others don't. But one good thing is that it's still a CE release, hasn't gone to national release. And if a CE causes you too many problems just reload the current national release and no more CE problems.

I have the same feeling that the HR2X line has been stretched to its limit.

D* should just drop some of the new features, try to solve the slow response issue to make the HR2X a solid base HD DVR product like the 622, then roll out a new HD DVR (no, not that new DirecTiVo) just like the 922.

I have the same feeling that the HR2X line has been stretched to its limit.

D* should just drop some of the new features, try to solve the slow response issue to make the HR2X a solid base HD DVR product like the 622, then roll out a new HD DVR (no, not that new DirecTiVo) just like the 922.


Feelings can be deceiving.:)

And out of all this which ones work they way they are supposed too. And alot of which is not ground breaking at all.
All have worked 100% without a single issue on my side; My grandpa, dad, and sisters can make the same claim.

All have worked 100% without a single issue on my side; My grandpa, dad, and sisters can make the same claim.

Can I ask you what the numbers I should pick on my next lottery ticket?:)

All have worked 100% without a single issue on my side; My grandpa, dad, and sisters can make the same claim.

I agree, when it got to national release anyway. Mine has been rock solid on features working like they are meant to. SO glad I do not have the problems some say they have.

Can I ask you what the numbers I should pick on my next lottery ticket?:)
It seems you and Hemi are the ones that defy the odds. More poeple have problem free receivers than problem ones.

It seems you and Hemi are the ones that defy the odds. More poeple have problem free receivers than problem ones.

I don't know, I don't think I have as many issues with my HR2Xs as Hemi with his. But did you see a recent poll where about 60% of people said they had sluggish remote performance? That was just one of the issues.

Consider yourself lucky.

Of course for those who do not have fast fingers they may never notice it.

I don't know, I don't think I have as many issues with my HR2Xs as Hemi with his. But did you see a recent poll where about 60% of people said they had sluggish remote performance? That was just one of the issues.

Consider yourself lucky.

Of course for those who do not have fast fingers they may never notice it.Thank you. Sluggish performance was my issues. That about sums it up.