no, I don't hate dish, but I do hate their SD programming. I just got 2 directv HD DVRs and love them. DISH's SD programming just had awful video compression, it had worst quality than youtube. true an exageration but not by much. Directv seems to have better video quality, plus their box's software seems to be better, but I don't feel as though it's a fair comparison because I didn't have similar boxes to compare.

on a final note, I don't know if I heard the FiOS commercial right, did they say they have 100% uncompressed tv?

no, I don't hate dish, but I do hate their SD programming. I just got 2 directv HD DVRs and love them. DISH's SD programming just had awful video compression, it had worst quality than youtube. true an exageration but not by much. Directv seems to have better video quality, plus their box's software seems to be better, but I don't feel as though it's a fair comparison because I didn't have similar boxes to compare.

on a final note, I don't know if I heard the FiOS commercial right, did they say they have 100% uncompressed tv?Yes, Dish Network SD is horrible...yes, Dish HD is soft compared to D* and moreso compared to FiOS HD...yes and no, to say is FiOS TV is 100 uncompressed is misleading since all MPEG2/MPEG4 they receive from the programmers is compressed in some form or fashion. However, FiOS TV pretty much passes through 100% of the SD and HD signal being delivered to them by the programmer.

yeah well I guess FiOS is still good because the fewer times you compress it the better.

Can't wait until Comcast advertises uncompressed TV because it's uncompressed by the time it reaches your tv. just like how they offer "fiber optics"

I used to have a dish HD box and a dish SD box, I know it upscales but there's no way upscaling can fix that type of compression

as for directv's SD I used to have it but I don't remember the picture quality

Yes, Dish Network SD is horrible...yes, Dish HD is soft compared to D* and moreso compared to FiOS HD...yes and no, to say is FiOS TV is 100 uncompressed is misleading since all MPEG2/MPEG4 they receive from the programmers is compressed in some form or fashion. However, FiOS TV pretty much passes through 100% of the SD and HD signal being delivered to them by the programmer. mpeg2 is a compression format..Don't believe the hype. If u want true uncompressed buy an antenna!!!

mpeg2 is a compression format..Don't believe the hype. If u want true uncompressed buy an antenna!!!

well even OTA DTV is lossy

mpeg2 is a compression format..Don't believe the hype. If u want true uncompressed buy an antenna!!!

I hope you are talking about analog TV....but that is basically compressed to from the network to your local station. Digital TV is also compressed.

mpeg2 is a compression format..Don't believe the hype. If u want true uncompressed buy an antenna!!!

OTA(DTV) is mpeg2 it is compressed.

Basically anything we as consumers can view is compressed at some point

mpeg2 is a compression format..Don't believe the hype.

He mentioned Mpeg2 as a compression format in his post. Not sure what you are trying to tell him
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Basically anything we as consumers can view is compressed at some point

yeah but can't we atleast shoot for less compression and fewer number of times compressed? even cameras record lossy video, then assuming they transfer it to workstation without recompressing it, they edit it, then that program compresses it again, then when they air it it's compressed, then if you record it on a DVR it's compressed yet again

yeah but can't we atleast shoot for less compression and fewer number of times compressed? even cameras record lossy video, then assuming they transfer it to workstation without recompressing it, they edit it, then that program compresses it again, then when they air it it's compressed, then if you record it on a DVR it's compressed yet againMaybe its your POS Sony TV's :yikes

Just Kidding :D:D

man, the sony's are nice, and now that I have directv HD attached to them they're sexier than ever

Hello,
I was working in a call center for dish it has lots of complications like when there is a mountain or home between signal problem. Also lots of calls for dish again and again.

Hello,
I was working in a call center for dish it has lots of complications like when there is a mountain or home between signal problem. Also lots of calls for dish again and again.


Stay off your parents computer.:rolleyes:

Hello,
I was working in a call center for dish it has lots of complications like when there is a mountain or home between signal problem. Also lots of calls for dish again and again.



I hate to tell you , but a mountian or home between you and the signal would not be a E* specific problem in the sat arena

I hate to tell you , but a mountian or home between you and the signal would not be a E* specific problem in the sat arena

But he is in UK:) hills and homes might be in different configurations.

But he is in UK:) hills and homes might be in different configurations.
It still would not make it a problem specific to E*. If a mountian is between a person and the sat (with any company) it would present the same problem. ;)

I did not know E* was even offered in the UK.