D* is being sloppy. They will need to actually add Travel Channel HD plus a few others soon. E*, Verizon and AT&T are all the HD leader(s) much more so than D*, unless you want to play games w/ RSN's. They can't play the PPV/VOD game. Comcast has that locked down! :p

D* is being sloppy. They will need to actually add Travel Channel HD plus a few others soon. E*, Verizon and AT&T are all the HD leader(s) much more so than D*, unless you want to play games w/ RSN's. They can't play the PPV/VOD game. Comcast has that locked down! :pI currently have 109 HD channels in my FiOS TV lineup. Not one of them is a PPV, there is no overcompression, no funny bussiness, no shenanigans, no monkey shines, and more on the way.

D* is being sloppy. They will need to actually add Travel Channel HD plus a few others soon. E*, Verizon and AT&T are all the HD leader(s) much more so than D*, unless you want to play games w/ RSN's. They can't play the PPV/VOD game. Comcast has that locked down! :p

Not in channels that people actually watch.

Where's MLB Network, the best HD channel out there.

Have they made them available to the Turbo subs yet?

In any case, I consider the RSNs channels, but even then the count is pretty even.


Congrats to the E* subs that can watch the new HD

If you take out the RSNs and HD PPVs, E* leads D* 78 to 70 in national HD channels, in other words channels people do care about.

I understand that some don't want to discount RSNs and others do. I think there is merit to both sides of that argument.

Check this spread sheet in this post for the numbers

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1777679-post423.html

Here's the channels that E* has that D* doesn't

BET Jazz
Hallmark Movies
Lifetime
Lifetime Movies
Travel Channel
WGN
Action Max
Cinemax 5 Star
Encore
HBO Comedy
HBO Latino
HBO 2 East
HBO Signature
HBO Family
HBO Zone
WFN

Here's the channels that D* has that E* doesn't

Fuel
FX
MLB
The 101
Smithsonian
Showtime West HD
Showtime Extreme
Speed

The rest of the differences are in RSNs. Refer to the spread sheet in the link above to see those differences.

I currently have 109 HD channels in my FiOS TV lineup. Not one of them is a PPV, there is no overcompression, no funny bussiness, no shenanigans, no monkey shines, and more on the way.

:D

I currently have 109 HD channels in my FiOS TV lineup. Not one of them is a PPV, there is no overcompression, no funny bussiness, no shenanigans, no monkey shines, and more on the way.

No doubt Fios has that edge, but most people do not have that option, also their HD hardware is not known to be the best and can be expensive if you want more than two.

I personally did not care for all the rants after 4/1 because it was just a matter of how soon the new HDs would be on. Charlie did seem lately trying to have some fun with us when adding new HDs.

If you take out the RSNs and HD PPVs, E* leads D* 78 to 70 in national HD channels, in other words channels people do care about.

I understand that some don't want to discount RSNs and others do. I think there is merit to both sides of that argument.

Check this spread sheet in this post for the numbers

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1777679-post423.html

Here's the channels that E* has that D* doesn't

BET Jazz
BET
Hallmark Movies
Lifetime
Lifetime Movies
Travel Channel
WGN
Action Max
Cinemax 5 Star
Encore
HBO Comedy
HBO Latino
HBO 2 East
HBO Signature
HBO Family
HBO Zone
WFN

Here's the channels that D* has that E* doesn't

Fuel
FX
MLB
The 101
Smithsonian
Showtime West HD
Showtime Extreme
Speed

The rest of the differences are in RSNs. Refer to the spread sheet in the link above to see those differences.
Take out Premiums and they lead by only 3 and then you are truly left with the channels that people actually care about (The ones I bolded. Although one can argue that few care about BET Jazz, WFN, Fuel, and Speed).

Take out Premiums and they lead by only 3 and then you are truly left with the channels that people actually care about (The ones I bolded. Although one can argue that few care about BET Jazz, WFN, Fuel, and Speed).

I would say: "...the channels that I actually care about...," rather speak for the people:)

As examples, I would not say people do not care for the HD premium movies, nor say people do not care for HD "premium" NFL ST:)

I know I love my HD premium channels! I originally subscribed to Dish Network for HBO so it is important to me. :)

Agree on the premiums. I care more about those than ANY of the other channels that either provider has that the other doesn't. I want HD movies without commercials!

gotta say premiums are important to me as well, but it is sad how much E* has taken charge, I remember last year many people were saying there was no way they had the bandwidth and E* was going to shut down when the satellite failed, now look how the tide has turned.

gotta say premiums are important to me as well, but it is sad how much E* has taken charge, I remember last year many people were saying there was no way they had the bandwidth and E* was going to shut down when the satellite failed, now look how the tide has turned.

Most people don't know anything about anything.

Most people don't know anything about anything.

Or just plain stupid.

For example, I have read many D* subs bashing E*, hoping E* to fail. Why? So D* can be the only game in town and start to change you an arm and a leg and you will have no other choice but pay them?

And I say so as a D* sub myself.

Or just plain stupid.

For example, I have read many D* subs bashing E*, hoping E* to fail. Why? So D* can be the only game in town and start to change you an arm and a leg and you will have no other choice but pay them?

And I say so as a D* sub myself.

Absolutely! I actually want E* to get stronger and better. That can mean only good things for D*. We don't need a satellite monopoly.

Absolutely! I actually want E* to get stronger and better. That can mean only good things for D*. We don't need a satellite monopoly.Exactly, Its bad enough there's a Sunday Ticket Monopoly.
:p

Exactly, Its bad enough there's a Sunday Ticket Monopoly.
:p

which i don't mind at all ;):D

which i don't mind at all ;):D

You do realize this attitude is not too far from "I don't mind if E* fails and so what if D* can charge me whatever they want I will just have to pay it?":)

D* just added 30 1080p movies VOD. Using E*'s counting of 1 VOD movie = 10 channels, this gives D* over 300 HD channels.

D* just added 30 1080p movies VOD. Using E*'s counting of 1 VOD movie = 10 channels, this gives D* over 300 HD channels.

LOL - that's pretty good.

As a sports fan, that makes it an easy decision for me, so nit picking on HD count does not matter much. D* has MLB Network which is VERY important to me. Plus I get to see a lot more RSN games in HD.

Now if I had my druthers, I'd like to see D* add Travel Channel HD & WGN HD (so that I can root for whoever is playing the Cubs :D). And if D* ever catches up with HD premiums (& just premiums in general), I would consider forking out the extra cash for premium packages. But all of these pale in comparison to getting the sports that I want to see.

You do realize this attitude is not too far from "I don't mind if E* fails and so what if D* can charge me whatever they want I will just have to pay it?":)
I think they are two totally different things.

People keep saying that about the price of D* being driven up by these sports packages, but from what I can see, if you do not sub to them, the price you pay for D* or E* is more or less the same.