i just saw a tv commerical for dish, they said that thier picture quaility is the same as directv!!!

i know 3 people who have dish and 3 who have directv, on diffrent tv's directv has a much better picture any day!

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I see this thread traveling down to the recycle bin....I mean warzone...

I see this thread traveling down to the recycle bin....I mean warzone...

Ya think? :D ;)

Sorry, don't agree. I've done enough DirecTV to Dish conversions and have seen side-by-side and before/after comparisons. I don't see much difference at all .On SD receivers, I give a slight nod to Dish. With HD, I can't see a difference until the TV gets larger that 50 inches, then Direct gets the nod.

I've seen both side by side and there is no difference in SD

couldnt compare HD because didnt have a HD box nearby :)

I've seen both side by side and there is no difference in SD

couldnt compare HD because didnt have a HD box nearby :)


I had both at the same time. No difference in hd to me.

I've seen both side by side and there is no difference in SD

couldnt compare HD because didnt have a HD box nearby :)


well maybe its because im young, dumb, and full of crumbs, i can see a little better. ;)

all i know is the 2 short months i had dish, they have a little dial in the uplink room, and when there is a big boxing match, all the quailty goes to them.

ppv's on directv look like movie quailty

I've seen both side by side and there is no difference in SD

couldn't compare HD because didnt have a HD box nearby :)

There isn't any discernible difference in HD either, at least on the national channels.

D* has better PQ on the HD locals, of that much I'm sure.

This forum is chock full of comparative analysis from over the years...

oh and the locals channels on dish around here is horrid, looks like you were watching a video on youtube take with a $10 digital camera

well maybe its because im young, dumb, and full of crumbs, i can see a little better. ;)
the 1st part is right...but aren't you the same person who thought that there was a analog HD feed when we have told you there is no such thing here in the US and since you are using a old SD TV how would you know what a HD picture looks like?

I guess when you have a HDTV then you can compare :rolleyes:



all i know is the 2 short months i had dish, they have a little dial in the uplink room, and when there is a big boxing match, all the quailty goes to them.

ppv's on directv look like movie quailty

huh? can I get that in English??

This forum is chock full of comparative analysis from over the years...

but since Timmy doesnt take the time to read but instead he would rather post the same questions over and over

oh and the locals channels on dish around here is horrid, looks like you were watching a video on youtube take with a $10 digital camera

I've seen Dish's locals on a HDTV in both SD & HD and there is a little bit of compression but it isnt bad. The HD locals look pretty dang good...not OTA quality but pretty good

but since Timmy doesnt take the time to read but instead he would rather post the same questions over and over

maybe there's some shizzle in that fizzle ;)

I cant believe someone LIED on a commercial!!

good lord what is next.....
the cable company showing commercials that say that the dish goes out "every time it rains"?
or we have 1000's of HD options...?

I've seen Dish's locals on a HDTV in both SD & HD and there is a little bit of compression but it isnt bad. The HD locals look pretty dang good...not OTA quality but pretty good

That's just it, I've been comparing my locals to OTA...noticeably softer.

My brothers locals on D* do look very good though. I was practically stunned.

I cant believe someone LIED on a commercial!!

good lord what is next.....
the cable company showing commercials that say that the dish goes out "every time it rains"?
or we have 1000's of HD options...?

yeah.......:) i don't know why this still surprises some. directv lies dish lies they all do it. no biggie........

That's just it, I've been comparing my locals to OTA...noticeably softer.
yep. Even the OTA SD channels look a little better than Dish's locals. The DIsh ones do look softer

I have jet fighter vision which is better then 20/10 and I can tell you that there is no differance in PQ on directv or dish. I still think that Dish is better when you get in the 42 to 47 in LCD models, have not tested it above a 47 in. My friend has directv and I have dish and we brought our TVS to each others houses to test them. Directv has a brighter picture which in reality you do not base to say it is better. Normal people will think it is better just cause it is brighter. You want overall ur blacks and whites to base your quality but then it depens on ur tv what it can do in blacks an whites.
there is sooo much more we can get into to base who has better picture quality, BITRATE and other factors.......ETC.

So if this dude the op thinks he has great vision cause he is young. I am 34 and have way better vision then some of the 16 yr olds who wear glasses:cool:

They both suck compared to some of the HD backhauls i've seen. The lakers and Magic looked phenomenal a couple nights ago.:D

the 1st part is right...but aren't you the same person who thought that there was a analog HD feed when we have told you there is no such thing here in the US and since you are using a old SD TV how would you know what a HD picture looks like?



if the source video was hd, being broadcasted on a analog transmitter, then it would be hd.

its like videotaping an hd channel on a vhs camcoder, its not truly hd, but you can still see the diff

I see this thread traveling down to the recycle bin....I mean warzone...

You've got my vote on a Warzone worthy thread here...

if the source video was hd, being broadcasted on a analog transmitter, then it would be hd.
uh no it isn't...its still SD. As noted above (which again proves my point) there was no HD analog transponders in North America. They are only SD

just like those converter boxes out there. Sure my locals are in HD but those only display SD so those converter boxes are not HD

what im saying if the original source video was in hd, you could tell the diff if it was recorded on a sd camera instead

It doesnt matter if its in HD or SD at the camera. Its what they put out for the actual signal on the transponder

If you take a SD camera and send the signal out on a SD transponder, its SD
If you take a HD camera and send the signal out on a SD transponder, its still SD

The only way its considered HD is if it is sent out on a HD transponder

yeah.......:) i don't know why this still surprises some. directv lies dish lies they all do it. no biggie........
because some people are young and stupid

what he is tryin to say is if you take your digital camera and take a picture of your screen. you have it on a HD channel and the camera he is sayin is a SD model which is stupid, you take the picture you would tell the differance in picture quality if you look at the picture after you snap it. Clearly he does not know anything about camera's because the camera can be moved and not in the same spot as the last picture. it is not a good way to compare picture qualty I do have to say lol

And there is NO SD camera. what is a SD camera?

last I checked in video production a Non-HD camera would be a SD camera :)

oooook so all pictures are SD then?? if you take a picture?

I had both at the same time up until yesterday and literally saw no difference in picture quality. Maybe its just me I dunno :rolleyes:

I fully agree with Techfizzle's observation...TurboHD-Lite is just repackaged DishHD-Lite. To a discerning eye, DirecTV provides better quality HD, and FiOS TV the best!

what he is tryin to say is if you take your digital camera and take a picture of your screen. you have it on a HD channel and the camera he is sayin is a SD model which is stupid, you take the picture you would tell the differance in picture quality if you look at the picture after you snap it. Clearly he does not know anything about camera's because the camera can be moved and not in the same spot as the last picture. it is not a good way to compare picture qualty I do have to say lol

And there is NO SD camera. what is a SD camera?


Huh, what are you talking about? Who's talking about taking a picture of a tv? Ice is talking about video cameras as a source. There are SD video cameras and HD video cameras.

I fully agree with Techfizzle's observation...TurboHD-Lite is just repackaged DishHD-Lite. To a discerning eye, DirecTV provides better quality HD, and FiOS TV the best!

Ah, a brother in arms for you. Maybe you guys can take it to PM for your intimate moments. We all know your opinion by now......

I have jet fighter vision which is better then 20/10 and I can tell you that there is no differance in PQ on directv or dish. I still think that Dish is better when you get in the 42 to 47 in LCD models, have not tested it above a 47 in. My friend has directv and I have dish and we brought our TVS to each others houses to test them. Directv has a brighter picture which in reality you do not base to say it is better. Normal people will think it is better just cause it is brighter. You want overall ur blacks and whites to base your quality but then it depens on ur tv what it can do in blacks an whites.
there is sooo much more we can get into to base who has better picture quality, BITRATE and other factors.......ETC.

So if this dude the op thinks he has great vision cause he is young. I am 34 and have way better vision then some of the 16 yr olds who wear glasses:cool:

And lets not even go into the quality of the equipment your viewing each service on, big difference from a $300 tv and a $3000 dollar one.

Directv HD is far superior to Dish HD

Directv HD is far superior to Dish HD

Have had both ... see little difference. Some channels look better on D* and some look better on E*.

Directv HD is far superior to Dish HD

is that why you still have DIsh then? ;)

Dish HD is far superior to Directv HD

Directv has a brighter picture which in reality you do not base to say it is better.I think what is actually happening is that they are turning the gamma way up.

because some people are young and stupidStupidity infects older people in the form of being prejudiced and/or set in their ways.

Stupidity infects older people in the form of being prejudiced and/or set in their ways.

yep. I'm set in my ways. Last I checked I was responding to rey's post but I guess if you feel the need to take a jab at me....

I guess when you have to deal with old Timmy in other areas here like I have to you kinda get set in your ways with what you say :rolleyes:

Well this thread has gone the path expected.... welcome to the zone. :D

i just saw a tv commerical for dish, they said that thier picture quaility is the same as directv!!!

i know 3 people who have dish and 3 who have directv, on diffrent tv's directv has a much better picture any day!

I have them both at home and even though I ONLY use Direct for MLB the pictures are basically the same. I do admit that the picture is very good on NESN when the Sox play. Other than that not much difference. It is in the eye of the beholder and what you are watching it on.

Ah, a brother in arms for you. Maybe you guys can take it to PM for your intimate moments. We all know your opinion by now......Sorry, but SatelliteGuys.us was founded as a source of Satellite Industry news and information, honest disclosure of facts and opinions, and a forum for open and respectful debate - it's part of what many of us consider the SatelliteGuys ethos. Of course, you're free to take your discussions the PM route if you wish...

Anyway, until Dish Network commits themselves to improving their HD quality, statements made by their marketing departmant (e.g., touting their HD quality) are cerrtainly subject to critique and criticism by customers and experts having a different opinion. Of course, Dish Network could improve their HD picture quality and most of the complaints would simply go away.;)

PQ for hd dish wins . Locals are the same soft tones via direct or dish. OTA for locals is a must if you can get them. I will install the ota tuner if cusomer has ant. As the pq and the ability to record more shows at once.

Side by side dish wins on the war on hd pq stop by my la office any time we will put any hd chanel of your choice in real time.
We will pull the same hdmi and plug it in to dish then direct so you can see the sharpnes and tone difrinces in bolth providers with out wondring what type tv input tricry we are trying to pull.

Proper viwing on a 60" is10-12' any closer bolth will look the same, also picture settings diffier on any tv lcd or plasmia and settings of picture for that set also need to be calibrated not just the standard,vivid,sports settings form factory.

PM me for HD PQ demo any time if your in socal la.

PQ for hd dish wins . Locals are the same soft tones via direct or dish. OTA for locals is a must if you can get them. I will install the ota tuner if cusomer has ant. As the pq and the ability to record more shows at once.

Side by side dish wins on the war on hd pq stop by my la office any time we will put any hd chanel of your choice in real time.
We will pull the same hdmi and plug it in to dish then direct so you can see the sharpnes and tone difrinces in bolth providers with out wondring what type tv input tricry we are trying to pull.

Proper viwing on a 60" is10-12' any closer bolth will look the same, also picture settings diffier on any tv lcd or plasmia and settings of picture for that set also need to be calibrated not just the standard,vivid,sports settings form factory.

PM me for HD PQ demo any time if your in socal la.


this is what I was sayin. Most people never ever ever calibrate their TV's. and then blame the provider for there picture quality. Directv's picture is just a little brighter then Dish's

Our smallest HD screen is 42" and our largest is 159". All carefully calibrated. I have seen DirecTV, but not form where direct comparisons could be made to Dish. We have Dish, 4DTV, FTA, direct OTA and other HD sources. I have contemporaneously compared master feeds to the Dish and OTA manipulations, and have recordings where I can compare the evolution of Dish's compression over the past few years on the same source material.

Anyone who cares about splitting hairs regarding Dish vs. DirecTV quality is wasting time, because both are very sad. It's arguing over two shattered plates. In a way I have to complement the technical ability of the compression engineers in getting the numerical bit rates of HD channels down to SD levels, but the picture quality has also been going down to the point where HDlite is rivaled by SDheavy. I cringe every time Dish adds more HD channels, because that means the existing ones are suffering even more.

One thing I think we can ALL agree on:
Dish HD PQ + Direct HD PQ is FAR superior to CoNcast HD PQ. (talk about holy pixelation, Batman!)

haven't had comcast so cant comment....wont ever have that in my house
with 6 dishes why would I? ;)

ive looked and looked, i wish i could find the article on a site showing a side by side of dish and directv's picture quaily showing how directv had less noise and deeper blacks

Why people have to start a thread about stiupid things like picture quality because they have that service, is beyond me.
What you should be more concerned about is your own picture quality and not everyone else s. Further more you don't make programming choices based strictly on the PQ, the assortment of channels, the price and the equipment play a major part in the decision.
This thread needs to be closed.

yep. I'm set in my ways. Last I checked I was responding to rey's post but I guess if you feel the need to take a jab at me....I'm not taking a jab at anyone. I'm just adding my take on the general subject of stupidity and how it isn't limited to the young.

Well this thread has gone the path expected.... welcome to the zone. :D

the dumpster of satguys. :D:eek::D

the dumpster of satguys. :D:eek::D
that's why i call it the recycle bin.

that's why i call it the recycle bin.

well the items in a recycle bin can be saved or reused:p but the warzone should be called the death zone. :yes it's where no man has gone before or come back from.

it's where no man has gone before or come back from. Only a handfull.:D:devil:

there is no question about it,i have compared both and the better over all picture quality goes to dish network.

the dumpster of satguys. :D:eek::D


You got that right... This forum should be placed right below the big three for everyone to see our trash :D :rant:

I finally seen this commercial that this commercial that the OP mentioned (the topic of this thread). I have to say that it is probably one of the best Dish commercials in a while. For the first time in a while Dish finally made a commercial comparing themselves to their competition and did so in a creative way and directly to the point. The commercial basically said, why pay more for programming that looks the same on both providers. Simply put, with Dish you get the same for less. I see nothing wrong with this commercial at all.

I finally seen this commercial that this commercial that the OP mentioned (the topic of this thread). I have to say that it is probably one of the best Dish commercials in a while. For the first time in a while Dish finally made a commercial comparing themselves to their competition and did so in a creative way and directly to the point. The commercial basically said, why pay more for programming that looks the same on both providers. Simply put, with Dish you get the same for less. I see nothing wrong with this commercial at all.I just caught it myself and all I can say is, its about time

You got that right... This forum should be placed right below the big three for everyone to see our trash :D :rant:

No you don't put the dumpster in the front yard, you put it out back in the alley, out of sight, out of mind. :D

No you don't put the dumpster in the front yard, you put it out back in the alley, out of sight, out of mind. :D

hey some restaurants take the trash out while you're eating so......... yes i've actually been in a restaurant where an employee decided to roll the trash out by where the people eat:rant: amazing..........

No you don't put the dumpster in the front yard, you put it out back in the alley, out of sight, out of mind. :D

In dumpster this section goes from showing in my "New posts" list...joining the crowd of others: Sports, Ebay feeds, WWE Wrastling, etc.