I got Twinhan Visionplus 1020a on Monday now tried install last night but pc seem reboot everytime is start copy .sys driver file.
New hardware wizard comes up at start up but having issue when try install dtv video control as dtv audio controller driver is installed.

It is the pc or it's driver issue?

Would a fresh install of xp pro help?

EDIT:My bad Icerberg or another mod please move this FTA DVB forum.

This needs to be moved to PC DVB section.

I have heard of people getting the 1020a to work fine on XP. I have never encountered this so I am not sure. I have got my 1020a recently working (mostly) on Windows 7. Look in FTA PC DVB section for more help. You mat want to try and download the latest software/drivers from the twinhan website. They should have a lot of support for XP.

I have tried latest twin drivers for 1020A these do install but get device manager i get yellow mark and when look the device it tell's me their problem with the device but no more information then that.

What drivers did use under xp?

What drivers did use under xp?

I have never tried using my 1020a under XP; I have only heard of people getting it to work fine with XP. I installed the drivers for my 1020a in Windows 7 and device manager says the device is working properly. I would think that there would be more support for XP than Windows 7 b/c this is an older card and was released during XP's prime. Search through the PC DVB section; there is some info in there about Twinhan products. You might find something that helps.

Free to Air PC DVB Discussion - SatelliteGuys.US (http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-pc-dvb-discussion/)

I had a similar problem with a Twinhan 102g and Vista. Turned out that (even though Twinhah says they are) the drivers were not digitally signed.

I do not know if XP Pro is like Vista and requires digitally signed drivers but with Vista I have to F8 on boot up then select Disable Signature Enforcement.

I had a similar problem with a Twinhan 102g and Vista. Turned out that (even though Twinhah says they are) the drivers were not digitally signed.

I do not know if XP Pro is like Vista and requires digitally signed drivers but with Vista I have to F8 on boot up then select Disable Signature Enforcement.

Can you not force Vista to accept the non-signed drivers? Windows 7 told me that the drivers weren't digitally signed and asked if I wanted to continue and I just click yes and it worked fine from there. I thought Vista worked similar to this?

Rtpifan - are you using 32bit or 64bit XP?

Can you not force Vista to accept the non-signed drivers? Windows 7 told me that the drivers weren't digitally signed and asked if I wanted to continue and I just click yes and it worked fine from there. I thought Vista worked similar to this?

Rtpifan - are you using 32bit or 64bit XP?

Vista asked the same question and loaded the drivers but they will not work unless I boot up with signature enforcement disabled. If I boot up normally Vista will not recognize the 102g.

I'm using 32 bit vista

hmmm...I wonder if I can do that in Windows 7, and if so what changes it would have since device manager says the device is working properly and Windows Media Center finds the card. I will have to try this out tonight and see what happens.

I am using 64bit Windows 7, so it's a little harder to find software/drivers that work. I need 64bit, though, b/c I have 5GB total memory (includes 1GB on my 9500 GT video card) and 32bit doesn't support that much. I wish they would just get rid of 32bit Windows in new versions and stick to 64bit. I see no point in sticking with 32bit processors/OS's.

Can you not force Vista to accept the non-signed drivers? Windows 7 told me that the drivers weren't digitally signed and asked if I wanted to continue and I just click yes and it worked fine from there. I thought Vista worked similar to this?

Rtpifan - are you using 32bit or 64bit XP?

I am using 32but XP just cannot figure out why machine reboot while trying intsall .sys driver.

Vista asked the same question and loaded the drivers but they will not work unless I boot up with signature enforcement disabled. If I boot up normally Vista will not recognize the 102g.

I'm using 32 bit vista

But how would go about disabling signature enforcement with xp?
When prompted about no signature signed at tell to procced anyway and then it reboot's itself when copying the .sys

Have you tried to redownload the drivers from the twinhan website and install a new copy of them? Do you have the CD that came with your 1020a?

Installed one set of drivers from twinhan but not sure they correct but others tried xp told they had valid driver info or something like that.
Drivers from cd give the reboot issue.

Here list of drivers i have tried but unable get xp recognize them as valid.
AD-SB200(7022)
V1.0.1.900 (2008 03 25)
AD-SE200(1028)
V1.0.4.6 (2008 04 11)


XP Pro running SP3

I do not know if XP Pro is like Vista and requires digitally signed drivers but with Vista I have to F8 on boot up then select Disable Signature Enforcement.

Did you try this? Press F8 during boot-up.

I do not see this option :(

I do not see this option :(

"Restart your computer. Immediately after the screen goes blank for the first time, press the F8 key repeatedly. The Windows Advanced Options menu appears. If the menu does not appear, restart your computer and try again."

Taken from:
Windows XP: How to fix a computer that won't start (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/support/nostart.mspx)

I know about F8 at start up but i mean i do not see "Disable driver signature enforcement" as an option but few others and one of option where system does not reboot on error and see what does for me it may just let me complete the installation if does restart itself.

It's really weird that this is happening. Everything should work fine with XP. Have you tried to uninstall everything and try again?

I have removed all twinhan/vision plus drivers and software and try many times with same result.
Next is to re-install xp itself.

have you tried the auto install for latest drivers twinhan has on their website? just a different way of trying to install the drivers. worth a shot before you have to re-install your OS.

http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%20Driver/Other%20Drivers/TwinhanDriverSetup_Latest.zip

At this point no choice but to give it a try.

What drivers did use under xp?

Digital TV 3.4 (2009 02 12) This is the Twinhan program like My Theater or the like. Has drivers for all Twinhan satellite cards.

Other Models

v.1.2.3.8 (2006. 05) This has drivers for your card but they are old.

Uninstall all the Twinhan drivers you put on your computer and try Digital TV 3.4 first do not install both the above at the same time.

I've only skimmed through the above posts, so I may have missed something, however one thing occurred to me, and that is a conflict between the 1020a and a hard drive, particularly a SATA drive.
I have run the 1020a mainly on Win2000, on which it works fine. I've also run it on Windows XP, and it works fine there two, although I have seen some strange conflicts between it and some software at times, but the Twinhan itself runs fine, and I had no issues installing it.
However the one big issue I had with it, when installed on the Win2000 computer was that I started the computer out with a couple EIDE drives, but then installed a SATA drive. Everything worked fine until I'd try to make big file transfers to the SATA drive while running the Twinhan. I basically found that the SATA drive would effectively shut down the Twinhan, such that if I was tuned to a strong transponder, and started a transfer to or from the SATA drive, I would lose lock on the channel I was tuned to.
Anyway, that SATA drive was NOT my C: drive, and I used it infrequently, so it really didn't bother me that much, however it occurred to me that if that drive had been the C: drive, that I would have had a difficult time using the Twinhan, as the C: drive is pretty much active much of the time no matter what program you're running. And it's possible that it could make it hard to get the drivers installed, because while the disk is running, the drivers might not be able to access the card to determine that it is there. I've seen people post about the install program saying something to the effect that the card wasn't identified properly. The install program is for several different cards, and it needs to access the card to determine what kind of card it is.
Anyway, if you're using a SATA drive (and it's getting harder and harder to find drives that AREN'T SATA these days, then that could be part of the problem, as Windows XP shouldn't be a problem.

I have done a re-install of xp and followed suggestion by Just Another Sucker but reboot issue still happen as soon it's start copying *.sys driver file this main reason why it does work i guess.
Before re-installing xp tried F8 and disable reboot on system failure an tried install the drivers but got BSOD screen but could make sense of it.

Uninstalled everything and tried v.1.2.3.8 (2006. 05) it copies fine and then restart pc.
But under device manager yellow mark for the devices.

Digital TV 3.4 (2009 02 12) when trying to find card is unable to find a device.
I am going friends and try card is pc and see what happens but starting think this card is DOA
If does same at least i know card not the pc

In my friend pc it works okay must figure out what's difference

Good news bad news I guess. Good- you know the card is ok. Bad- now you have to find out where the conflict is.

B.J. post contains rather interesting information and may lead me to possible solution.
My friend machine as stronger power supply then mine i also maybe not power for VP1020A to function correctly.
All pc's used so far are sata based.
I have old p3 around using older chipset and ide controller i am rather curious to see how perform's just find where put sdram modules for it.Many things to try guess better get to it.
Thanks for all the help Just Another Sucker and i will let you guy's know how this turn's out.

Sucess :)

I pulled out an old P3 and installed the drivers that came on cd and ts reader/Dvb Dream all seem to be happy just need learn how to use correctly now but that part of fun anyway.

Any good reading source recommended?

moved to pc card forum :)

FWIW I've only used the drivers either from the Twinhan VisionDTV 2.42a CD (driver 2.4.1.0) or from the latest download TwinhanDTV2.608a (driver 2.4.1.1). Both drivers seem to work fine with TSReader. I would also assume they would work with the bundled Twinhan software as well.

I'm not sure the v1.2.3.8 driver is useful as it is a BDA driver and I believe TSReader needs the pre-BDA driver instead. If you don't plan to ever run TSReader you could consider the BDA driver, but frankly the Twinhan 1020a is mostly of interest to me because of the TSReader support. :)

TS Reader is works fine cd provided driver so will leave as it is.
Main reason i got the twinhan is ts reader nothing else except some hd feed i currently cannot view but need upgrade this system a little to get need performance out of it.
I am wondering if it's okay if loop out from pansat to dvb-s card as really want keep moto under the pansat control until get handle this new tool.

FWIW I've only used the drivers either from the Twinhan VisionDTV 2.42a CD (driver 2.4.1.0) or from the latest download TwinhanDTV2.608a (driver 2.4.1.1). Both drivers seem to work fine with TSReader. I would also assume they would work with the bundled Twinhan software as well.

I'm not sure the v1.2.3.8 driver is useful as it is a BDA driver and I believe TSReader needs the pre-BDA driver instead. If you don't plan to ever run TSReader you could consider the BDA driver, but frankly the Twinhan 1020a is mostly of interest to me because of the TSReader support. :)

Yeah with TSReader doesn't works with Digital TV 3.4 which version of windows are you using?

Do this old non BDA driver works in windows 7 x64?

I am running xp pro sp2 with cd provided drivers.

Ok, I'll check with windows xp my twinhann 1020a to see how it works on that OS.

Yeah with TSReader doesn't works with Digital TV 3.4 which version of windows are you using?

Do this old non BDA driver works in windows 7 x64?

I had to use patched drivers to get my 1020a to work on Windows 7 Pro 64bit, but even then it only works in the DVB-Data app that Twinhan has on their website. For some reason, I can't get it to work on any other program (Windows Media Center, DVBDream, Twinhan DTV)

:EDIT:
Digital TV 3.4 is the only DTV package I could get to install and run with Win 7 Pro x64. If this is true, and if what you are saying about TSReader not working with DTV 3.4 is true, then is looks like there isn't support for TSReader in Win 7 x64, at least not using this route. However, another member found some patched 64 bit 1020a drivers and said he installed those first then installed the latest DTV package and everything worked fine, at least in windows Media Center. I'm not sure if he tested TSReader. I think that when I get some time this week I'm going to uninstall all the drivers and Twinhan software and start over on trying to get my 1020a working.

I will try a few different methods and see if they work:
1)Install DTV 3.4 and see if these drivers work.
2)If this doesn't work, uninstall DTV 3.4, then re-install card drivers via device manager using the 64bit patched drivers I obtained.
3)If this doesn't work, install DTV 3.4 on top of the patched drivers and then see if things start working.

I will try each method with driver signature enforcement enabled and disabled.

Let me know if you have any other configuration suggestions so I can test them out as well!

I had to use patched drivers to get my 1020a to work on Windows 7 Pro 64bit, but even then it only works in the DVB-Data app that Twinhan has on their website. For some reason, I can't get it to work on any other program (Windows Media Center, DVBDream, Twinhan DTV)

:EDIT:
Digital TV 3.4 is the only DTV package I could get to install and run with Win 7 Pro x64. If this is true, and if what you are saying about TSReader not working with DTV 3.4 is true, then is looks like there isn't support for TSReader in Win 7 x64, at least not using this route. However, another member found some patched 64 bit 1020a drivers and said he installed those first then installed the latest DTV package and everything worked fine, at least in windows Media Center. I'm not sure if he tested TSReader. I think that when I get some time this week I'm going to uninstall all the drivers and Twinhan software and start over on trying to get my 1020a working.

I will try a few different methods and see if they work:
1)Install DTV 3.4 and see if these drivers work.
2)If this doesn't work, uninstall DTV 3.4, then re-install card drivers via device manager using the 64bit patched drivers I obtained.
3)If this doesn't work, install DTV 3.4 on top of the patched drivers and then see if things start working.

I will try each method with driver signature enforcement enabled and disabled.

Let me know if you have any other configuration suggestions so I can test them out as well!

Thanks for the advice so I got a question with DTV 3.4 can I watch Free to air channels just selecting it on MCE, ProgDVB or the included DVB software?

Basically I'm starting from scratch and I want to get the basics in other words what you say is that DTV 3.4 doesn't works for watching tv on windows 7?

Now for testing purposes which software/driver is the best one for watching satellite channels in windows xp (32 bit)?

Yeah with TSReader doesn't works with Digital TV 3.4 which version of windows are you using?

Do this old non BDA driver works in windows 7 x64?

I use Windows 2000 and Windows XP. No Vista or Windows 7/11 for me.

Anyone has those patched windows x64 drivers?

we have the same convo going on in a couple threads. look here for the patched drivers: http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-pc-dvb-discussion/184425-windows-media-center-vista-102g-4.html

enb141 - you can watch FTA stuff using DTV 3.4. You can also do it with Windows Media Center. The software included with your 1020a is probably just an older version of the DTV app

Guys I think I'm one of those unlucky guys that can't make to work my Twinhan 1020a under windows 7 x64 only windows XP 32bit works to me :( I hope to find a solution soon if not I'll have to move to a newer sat card.

Enb141 you are not the only one. check the link in my last post. I got it working in Win 7 32bit but can't quite get it going in 64bit. Go to Twinhan's website and download their latest DVB-Data program and see if you can get it working through that. In Win 7 64bit I can get the DVB-Data to lock onto the TP I am searching for, but I am still working on getting a signal using any other program. For some reason, I can only get the DVB-Data program working. I haven't been able to mess with it very much lately due to work and my senior design class taking up all my time. Hopefully I can get it sorted out soon. Another forum member got his 1020a working under Windows 7 64bit so I know it is possible!

Nope I can't I don't know why it just works in windows xp 32bit in windows 7 x64 I got the card detected but no signal at all basically is like I had a dummy driver that doesn't do its job.

Finaly got this working my P4 3Ghz machine.
ASUS P4P800-VM is mainboard installed without issues.

I got it to work under windows 7 x64 that I did was to downgrade the amount of RAM so when it uses my 4 GB it simply can't tune channels but when I use 3.25GB of ram it now works, weird isn't it.

Typed msconfig start menu and click on it then go to boot tab and advanced options and put 4095 for max memory it will only use 3.25 gig

Thanks chinga69 from dvbowners forum for this tip.

I got it to work under windows 7 x64 that I did was to downgrade the amount of RAM so when it uses my 4 GB it simply can't tune channels but when I use 3.25GB of ram it now works, weird isn't it.

I would imagine this is due to the card needing to be mapped into the 32bit address space for I/O or memory buffers. When you limit to 4095 RAM it will all be within 32bit address space. There might be a way to tell Windows to keep this specific driver's resources below 4GB. Search for pci double buffer or bounce buffer etc.

Yeah by somehow under windows vista x64 it does but under windows 7 x64 it just goes above the 4GB limit and so this card doesn't works. basically twinhan made a fake x64 driver that can't work correctly abover 4gb mark.

By the way now I need to make it to work under MCE anyone have a suggestion?

I got it to work under windows 7 x64 that I did was to downgrade the amount of RAM so when it uses my 4 GB it simply can't tune channels but when I use 3.25GB of ram it now works, weird isn't it.

Typed msconfig start menu and click on it then go to boot tab and advanced options and put 4095 for max memory it will only use 3.25 gig

Thanks chinga69 from dvbowners forum for this tip.

which driver did you use once you limited the ram? the most recent ones from Twinhan's website?

The only and the last ones they ever released for this card

Twinhan Drivers for Windows 7 - DVB Owners Discussion Forum - dvbowners.com (http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11221)

The only and the last ones they ever released for this card

Twinhan Drivers for Windows 7 - DVB Owners Discussion Forum - dvbowners.com (http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11221)

I have some drivers for 64bit vista that are basically just patched 32bit drivers. They are unofficial. Seems like I have another unofficial version at home as well; I will have to check tonight.