In the past Dish has had the TV2 option on their DVR's that allow for a NTSC signal to be fed via coax to a second room/TV. That option is great if you have a standard definition set for TV2. But as more folks replace their old SD sets with new HDTV's I think more people will want to be able to view HD recordings in those other rooms without having to get a HD DVR.

Verizon FIOS and AT&T U-Verse have a HD Multi Room Viewing solution available now, but those services aren't available everywhere. DirecTV has said they will be offering that function in 2010, see DirecTV's CEDIA booth was all about multi-room viewing (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/09/14/directvs-cedia-booth-was-all-about-multi-room-viewing/) for more info on that (as mention in that link MRV is being testing now by folks). I haven't seen anything from Dish on HD MRV except for the 922 and their LCD TV with a built in Sling catcher as their MRV solution, if I've missed that announcment can someone provide info on it (Thanks).

So the question I have is how important to you would it be to have HD MRV capabilities, just wondering what the demand is for that functionality.

Multi-room HD is easy on Dish. Just get two ViP211 boxes. It's multi-room HD DVR that gets expensive.

HD MVR is very important to me.

Multi-room HD is easy on Dish. Just get two ViP211 boxes. It's multi-room HD DVR that gets expensive.

That's why I said "I think more people will want to be able to view HD recordings in those other rooms without having to get a HD DVR."

Its important to me. I like the idea of being able to watch shows off my DVR on my HD receiver in another room in the house. The Dish method has never worked for me do to the distance between the two TV's and both of mine are HD.

When I get a 2nd HDTV it will be very important.

Only if I don't need more then 1 receiver per house hold. If I still need a receiver in every room, Then they might as well be HD DVRs.
1 HD DVR to serve 4-6 rooms with about 500 hours of HD recording is all I'm interested in. The first guy who has one of those wins . Untill then I don't care one bit about it.

Only if I don't need more then 1 receiver per house hold. If I still need a receiver in every room, Then they might as well be HD DVRs.


So you have no problem spending the extra money on a HD DVR vs. a standard HD box, that's runs contray to your prior posts about how you always want to save money;)

I really love the 722k we have for two tv's, it allows up to have one less reciever in our bedroom wife enjoys being able to access DVR features without another reciever

I really love the 722k we have for two tv's, it allows up to have one less reciever in our bedroom wife enjoys being able to access DVR features without another reciever

So how are you handling getting HD to that 2nd set?

For the completely hardcore, subscribing to AEP erases the DVR fees so it doesn't make sense for those subscribers not to have DVRs.

Where DISH Network could really scoop the industry would be to provide some sort of system that didn't require an STB (either QAM or ATSC).

Any solution would surely need to support more clients than uVerse's or DIRECTV's existing (testing) setups.

For the finely partitioned family, MRV is pretty pointless.

So you have no problem spending the extra money on a HD DVR vs. a standard HD box,;) I Have no problem with that what so ever. I like saving money , But I'm not going to compromise the function of my equipment to save money. Theres a Big difference between saving money and having equipment function they way I want it too.
4 HD recivers sharing 100 hours of recording time isn't anything I have any intrest in. I'd rather spend $349 on a Vip 612 then Buy or Lease any D* H- receiver .

For the finely partitioned family, MRV is pretty pointless. I agree.

For the completely hardcore, subscribing to AEP erases the DVR fees so it doesn't make sense for those subscribers not to have DVRs.

But unless Dish has changed pricing so the upfront cost of a HD DVR and HD STB there is that additional expense.


Where DISH Network could really scoop the industry would be to provide some sort of system that didn't require an STB (either QAM or ATSC).

Maybe RVU Alliance (http://www.rvualliance.org) would like Dish join, but then again probably not.


Any solution would surely need to support more clients than uVerse's or DIRECTV's existing (testing) setups.

Agreeded, a server needs to support more then one concurrent stream.


For the finely partitioned family, MRV is pretty pointless.

But for the non=finely partitioned family a MRV solution would probably be wanted.

I Have no problem with that what so ever. I like saving money , But I'm not going to compromise the function of my equipment to save money. Theres a Big difference between saving money and having equipment function they way I want it too.
4 HD recivers sharing 100 hours of recording time isn't anything I have any intrest in. I'd rather spend $349 on a Vip 612 then Buy or Lease any D* H- receiver .

So unless Dish comes out with a "...1 HD DVR to serve 4-6 rooms with about 500 hours of HD recording " you have no interest in MRV and would just spend the money on a HD DVR on every HD TV.

I really love the 722k we have for two tv's, it allows up to have one less reciever in our bedroom wife enjoys being able to access DVR features without another reciever

That would be great if it were two HD feeds. For me, and me only, having the SD feed would do me no good at all.

Maybe RVU Alliance (http://www.rvualliance.org) would like Dish join, but then again probably not.I see the RVU alliance as an exercise in announcing something way too far in advance of it being ready. The membership includes only one or two CE manufacturers and without them, nobody implements it into CE.

They've got some heavy duty competition out there that has had product on the market for several months now. Remember the modem standards battle of Class 2 versus Class 2.0 facsimile support?

Wireless N almost experienced a similar meltdown where the manufacturers did something and the standards committee did not.

So unless Dish comes out with a "...1 HD DVR to serve 4-6 rooms with about 500 hours of HD recording " you have no interest in MRV and would just spend the money on a HD DVR on every HD TV. Exactly. Because as far as D* goes, I'll Never enter another contract with them untill some changes are made in programming ,equipment and prices.

So how are you handling getting HD to that 2nd set?

Oops, forgot to say that the second TV is a SD tv

I've been waiting on pins and needles since 2006 for MRV. Two times now D* has let me down. The first time I wired my basement as I was finishing it with 6 runs of cable because everyone said thats what you will need. What a waste of money that was. Now people look at the plate and ask why so many cable terminals? And I have to explain how stupid I was to trust D*. Three years later and still nothing!

Just think of how nice it would be to have a server that could serve both SD, HD, OTA and satellite signals to client boxes that could be setup for either SD or HD. As you upgrade your TV's you wouldn't have to worry about upgrading equiptment.

Only if I don't need more then 1 receiver per house hold. If I still need a receiver in every room, Then they might as well be HD DVRs.
1 HD DVR to serve 4-6 rooms with about 500 hours of HD recording is all I'm interested in. The first guy who has one of those wins . Untill then I don't care one bit about it.

That would be one big box.

Assuming 4 rooms. so that 8 tuners,

with 4 rf receptors on 4 differnent freq ( only easy part lol )

then do someting like hdmi over cat5? to server al lthe rooms or ATSC signal that could then feed back to the hd tvs a broadcast hd quality signal.

But 4 mpeg4 decoders as both Dish and Direct mpeg4 boxes only seem only to hae a single decodes

Some kind of power cpu to handel the massive I/O that 8 tuners would cause

Then to a Raid 0 Striped array for hd preformance and modest amound of ram. To handle the hi function on 4 tvs

It really would be a monster machine.

Like my htpc

Just think of how nice it would be to have a server that could serve both SD, HD, OTA and satellite signals to client boxes that could be setup for either SD or HD. As you upgrade your TV's you wouldn't have to worry about upgrading equiptment.

I think that's what the new alliance that DirecTV and some others have formed to do, but it's probably at least a few years down the road. What should be coming sooner is the way to view recorded content from one HD DVR on client boxes.

That would be one big box.Actually, that would be the HR20P that DIRECTV trotted out at EHX three years ago.

DIRECTV's pro HD DVR - D-HR20P (http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/04/03/directvs-pro-hd-dvr-d-hr20p/)