SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 10/21/2009 1:00pm - 68 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 10/21/2009 12:40P - 10/21/2009 01:00P

Channel Additions:
5105 - WTVD [MPEG4 HD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)(Durham, NC-ABC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Durham, NC))
5107 - WNCN [MPEG4 HD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)(Goldsboro, NC-NBC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Goldsboro, NC))
5106 - WRAL [MPEG4 HD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)(Raleigh, NC-CBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Raleigh, NC))
5108 - WRAZ [MPEG4 HD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)(Raleigh, NC-FOX (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Raleigh, NC))
4828 - TMP58 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4829 - TMP59 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4830 - TMP60 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4831 - TMP61 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4832 - TMP62 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4833 - TMP63 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4834 - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4835 - TMP65 [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)

Channel Removals:
6465 - WTVD (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(Durham, NC-ABC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Durham, NC))
6467 - WNCN (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(Goldsboro, NC-NBC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Goldsboro, NC))
6466 - WRAL (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(Raleigh, NC-CBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Raleigh, NC))
6468 - WRAZ (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(Raleigh, NC-FOX (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Raleigh, NC))
8404 - KDAF (A) (H) removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Spotbeam 16 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_SB16.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(Dallas, TX-CW (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Dallas, TX))
5993 - INFO6 (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 06 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
9180(3) - KLEW [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 18 Spotbeam 40 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB40.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)(Lewiston, ID-CBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Lewiston, ID))
6387(33) - KDAF [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 31 Spotbeam 21 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB21.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)(Dallas, TX-CW (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Dallas, TX))
6387(33) - KDAF [MPEG4 HD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 Spotbeam 17 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_SB17.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)(Dallas, TX-CW (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Dallas, TX))
233 - NOTAX [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)
233 - NOTAX [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar8 77W TP 12 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)
562 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 14 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
562 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
563 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 17 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
563 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
564 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
564 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
565 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
565 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
566 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
566 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
567 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
567 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
568 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 21 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
568 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
569 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
569 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
570 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
570 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
571 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 18 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
571 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
572 - NBA [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
572 - NBA [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9562(562) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9562(562) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9563(563) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9563(563) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9564(564) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9564(564) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9565(565) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 27 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9565(565) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9566(566) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9566(566) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9567(567) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9567(567) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9568(568) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 27 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9568(568) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9569(569) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9569(569) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9570(570) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9570(570) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9571(571) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9571(571) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 30 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9572(572) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9572(572) - NBAHD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)

Transponder Changes:
EchoStar7 119W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed from 20000 QPSK 5/6 to 21500 8PSK 2/3

Channels in the system: 6639
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

mmmmmm HD mmmmmHD

8 new HD TMPs :up

So is this on top of the 8 that were already up?

Wow, HD on 119?! Very interesting

No, this is the 8 they "kinda" put up previously, they are just in the tables now.

Another market being moved off of 118.7 now.

Wow, HD on 119?! Very interesting

And for the curious.... they are probably slates. Video is encrypted so there is nothing to see, but 1 is steady at 4mbps and the other 7 are steady at 3 megabits. 11.5 megabits of null packets. Add 8 MPEG4 HD channels over on 72.7 and I'd be smiling ;) Which we will probably see happen in a couple of weeks once the 8PSK transition is completed and consolidation is done on that slot.

Another market being moved off of 118.7 now.

How long does the process take before they are totally removed? First Detroit, and now NC, Will the rest of the locals follow suit?

yes

The moves are to create slates on the guide to say channels are moving (like 148 shows for ESPNU) and you better have the right dish

Looks like I'll have to work on a wing for 129 then!

How long does the process take before they are totally removed? First Detroit, and now NC, Will the rest of the locals follow suit?

No particular time frame... they move the channels to other numbers and don't map them down, so folks that do not have in this case 129 or 61.5 and have HD locals they will call in asking what happened to their locals. The CSR will schedule the dish upgrade and tell them where to view the locals for the time being. But the question I have is....who has HD service & receivers and doesn't have 129 or 61.5? ;) Seems like you'd be missing quite a few channels already.

HD Markets remaining on 118.7 -

Detroit - also available on 61.5 and 129 - 118.7 removal started
Raleigh - also available on 61.5 and 129 - 118.7 removal started
Detroit - also available on 61.5 and 129 - 118.7 removal started
Charlotte - also available on 61.5 and 129 - 118.7 removal started
St. Louis - also available on 61.5 and 129
Pittsburgh - also available on 129

I suspect St Louis will start in the next week or two. Pittsburgh might stay put...any installers know if they stopped allowing installs on 118.7 for HD locals if there is no LOS to 129?

But the question I have is....who has HD service & receivers and doesn't have 129 or 61.5? ;)

International folks who subscribe to locals wouldn't need 129 or 61.5 but thats just a random answer :)

I guess you could just have HD locals with no HD channel package and not have 129 and 61.5, bet those are few and far between.

exactly....

I'm on the eastern arc and "moved" to Pittsburgh with a wing at 118.7. I think I'm a shade outside the 129 Spot for Pittsburgh. Might be time for a slingbox at my dads house...

I'm on the eastern arc and "moved" to Pittsburgh with a wing at 118.7. I think I'm a shade outside the 129 Spot for Pittsburgh. Might be time for a slingbox at my dads house...

Pittsburgh might stay...just keep an eye on things and continue watching TV.

Any Idea when these HD channels will be turned on & what these channels might be? Also why is it on 119 and not on 61.5/129 or 110 where the other HD Channel are?

Josh

Any Idea when these HD channels will be turned on & what these channels might be? Also why is it on 119 and not on 61.5/129 or 110 where the other HD Channel are?

Josh

First answer....read my post a few up from this one.

Second answer... possibly the rumored ones a month or two ago.

Third answer.... because they can. ;) It doesn't matter where it goes, the HD they put on 110/119 they can easily add to 72/77. Not so easy to add HD to 61.5 right now, which means it's not going on 129 either even though 129 has room.

Where is the sat going that nimiq 5 placed?

The speculation is 61.5 but we have not seen any filings yet about moving it.

First answer....read my post a few up from this one.

Second answer... possibly the rumored ones a month or two ago.

Third answer.... because they can. ;) It doesn't matter where it goes, the HD they put on 110/119 they can easily add to 72/77. Not so easy to add HD to 61.5 right now, which means it's not going on 129 either even though 129 has room.

Oh, so we have to wait for them to place these HD's on 72 or 77 before they will be lauched, right?

Why is it not so easy to put them on 61.5 right now?

Thanks,

Josh

Why is it not so easy to put them on 61.5 right now?


the satellite is pretty much full with both National HD and Locals in HD on spotbeams

also one satellite at 61.5 is old (Echo 3) so they cant use all the TP's...these TP's are not being used right now

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They have a bit of spare room on 61.5 that's it what I remember last time I looked. They aren't going to use that up either since E-3 is an old failing bird, and E-12 wasn't designed to use the frequencies that E-3 can not use anymore due to equipment failures. AMC-14 was supposed to fix this issue back in March 2008 but kinda sorta didn't make it into orbit. So back to the drawing board on 61.5 and pushed back a few years.

AMC-14 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC-14)

They would be sitting pretty right now if AMC-14 and E-12 were at 61.5, since Nimiq5 replaced 72, E-3 would probably be over at 77 helping E8 there while the new 77 bird was being built.

Does anyone know when a new sat will be launched for 61.5, since they seem to be having so much trouble there?

They have a bit of spare room on 61.5 that's it what I remember last time I looked. They aren't going to use that up either since E-3 is an old failing bird, and E-12 wasn't designed to use the frequencies that E-3 can not use anymore due to equipment failures. AMC-14 was supposed to fix this issue back in March 2008 but kinda sorta didn't make it into orbit. So back to the drawing board on 61.5 and pushed back a few years.

AMC-14 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC-14)

They would be sitting pretty right now if AMC-14 and E-12 were at 61.5, since Nimiq5 replaced 72, E-3 would probably be over at 77 helping E8 there while the new 77 bird was being built.

I really think they this 119 Bird that are going to launch in a few months, should go to 61.5 instead. Seems odd that they didn't do it that way.

I really think they this 119 Bird that are going to launch in a few months, should go to 61.5 instead. Seems odd that they didn't do it that way.

Except E14 is designed for 119, and would not work well at 61.5 (although it would work). E14 was being built before AMC-14 failed, so they couldn't swap payloads. E15 will eventually get there.

Our hope was that the old 72.7 sat, E6 would go to 61.5, bit Dish seems to be in no hurry. Not a single FCC filing.

I really think they this 119 Bird that are going to launch in a few months, should go to 61.5 instead. Seems odd that they didn't do it that way.
As was previously stated, AMC-14 was supposed to go to 61.5. It takes about two years to build and launch a sat. E-15 will probably be built to go to 61.5.

I'm on the eastern arc and "moved" to Pittsburgh with a wing at 118.7. I think I'm a shade outside the 129 Spot for Pittsburgh. Might be time for a slingbox at my dads house...

what kind of wing dish do you use for 118?:confused::confused:

A 500+ with 118.7/119 lnb attached to port #4 on the 1000.4 lnb.

Oh, so we have to wait for them to place these HD's on 72 or 77 before they will be lauched, right?

seems to me it is going to be a big joke about adding new national hd till they get a new sat to 61.5?

the satellite is pretty much full with both National HD and Locals in HD on spotbeams

also one satellite at 61.5 is old (Echo 3) so they cant use all the TP's...these TP's are not being used right now

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I believe that E-12 was designed to provide signals from TP 17 and TP 23. There might be power issues that prevent E-12 from providing signals from these 2. Dish can't use the other four TPs listed because of E-3 failures. I really think E-6 could help with these TPs if Dish would move it there. There are a few reasons why Dish has not applied to the FCC to make this move. First, the downlink pattern might not be that great but the downlink pattern E-6 provided at 72.5 W was very good so one would think it would still be fairly good at 61.5 W. The issue with knowing how much propellant is left on E-6 might be holding up this move as a result of the problems with E-5. Dish might be negotitating with the FCC on the 148 W slot that Dish has the DBS licenses for but no longer has a functioning satellite there.

Why don't they swing E8 to 61.5 and move E6 to 77?( less traveling distance) Since the new 77 bird will be ready in about a year or so.

Why don't they swing E8 to 61.5 and move E6 to 77?( less traveling distance) Since the new 77 bird will be ready in about a year or so.

That may work, but some of these Satellites were designed for the spot that there in now, so moving them may decrease their power or life. The Echo 15 bird that will be available in a year or so is suppose to go to 61.5.

Josh

I believe that E-12 was designed to provide signals from TP 17 and TP 23. There might be power issues that prevent E-12 from providing signals from these 2. Dish can't use the other four TPs listed because of E-3 failures. I really think E-6 could help with these TPs if Dish would move it there. There are a few reasons why Dish has not applied to the FCC to make this move. First, the downlink pattern might not be that great but the downlink pattern E-6 provided at 72.5 W was very good so one would think it would still be fairly good at 61.5 W. The issue with knowing how much propellant is left on E-6 might be holding up this move as a result of the problems with E-5. Dish might be negotitating with the FCC on the 148 W slot that Dish has the DBS licenses for but no longer has a functioning satellite there.

That would have to be a huge power problem on E-12 as E-12's beams are no where near being utilized of what it can do. Several beams are not fully utilized since they are not fully utilizing the uplink spotbeam beams, then add up the west coast beams not being used. I believe they are holding onto transponders on 61.5 since the spare factor is totally gone on E-3. I suspect we might hear something out of E6 within a month.

I see no one else is excited about the CW in HD in Dallas. I will quietly "woohoo!" to myself in this corner of the thread.

Woohoo!!! Nothing like Cw in hd.

seems to me it is going to be a big joke about adding new national hd till they get a new sat to 61.5?

Not necessarily. As I read "The List", there are 6 TMPs ready to go right now. 10,12,13,14 & 15 are already uplinked to 129 and 61.5. TMP 64 is uplinked to 119/72.5 .

There are 7 more at 119 that need a mirror at 72.5 (or 77 I guess)...TMP 58,59,60,61,62,63,& 65. I don't know much about that bird, but I would assume it has the space.

Finally, there are 8 at 129...TMP E, 30,31,32,35,36,50,57 . These are the ones that are hurt by the lack of space at 61.5. I suppose it's possible that TMP 58-65 were put at 119 to replace the 8 TMPs at 129.

Anyway, 6 ready to go, and 7 that (I think) could be made ready to go quickly .

Not necessarily. As I read "The List", there are 6 TMPs ready to go right now. 10,12,13,14 & 15 are already uplinked to 129 and 61.5. TMP 64 is uplinked to 119/72.5 .

There are 7 more at 119 that need a mirror at 72.5 (or 77 I guess)...TMP 58,59,60,61,62,63,& 65. I don't know much about that bird, but I would assume it has the space.

Finally, there are 8 at 129...TMP E, 30,31,32,35,36,50,57 . These are the ones that are hurt by the lack of space at 61.5. I suppose it's possible that TMP 58-65 were put at 119 to replace the 8 TMPs at 129.

Anyway, 6 ready to go, and 7 that (I think) could be made ready to go quickly .

Can your confirm this for me Digiblur, since you know this best.

Thanks,

Josh

Can your confirm this for me Digiblur, since you know this best.

Thanks,

Josh

Check out TheList link in my sig... I would be just confirming off the same data... M Sparks knows what he is talking about.

Any idea why the 6 that are ready to go, have not be turned on yet? How long have those been uplinked?

Any idea why the 6 that are ready to go, have not be turned on yet? How long have those been uplinked?
First, we don't know if there is actual video on these 6. Second, have the feeds from the source to the uplink facility been completed and tested. Third, have the contracts been signed. Details, details, and more details.....

First, we don't know if there is actual video on these 6. Second, have the feeds from the source to the uplink facility been completed and tested. Third, have the contracts been signed. Details, details, and more details.....

Yep, lots of pieces to the puzzle. Uplinking them is only one small piece.

So there is not any way to tell if there is anything on these 6 channels?

Josh

So there is not any way to tell if there is anything on these 6 channels?

Josh
Those that have TSReader can monitor the streams to see if they are constant or variable. Variable rates would indicate content. Constant would indicate just a slate or test pattern.

also if they are scrambled channels and have no EPG info we really cant tell what they are