pendragon,

I have a Prof 7301 on the way. Can I trouble you for some driver code? I'm running linux with the 2.6.29.6 kernel and have the sources.

Thanks,
Jim

I have a Prof 7301 on the way. Can I trouble you for some driver code? I'm running linux with the 2.6.29.6 kernel and have the sources.

The driver code I am working on is currently not directed at casual/operational use. For the moment, the best place to start is at:

s2-liplianin: Summary (http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin/)

There are still bugs, but this baseline appears reasonably functional. Caveat: I find most of the Linux app-side code rather pathetic and have been using home-grown utilities for my testing. YMMV.

I just wanted to report that I was able to get the first vestiges of blindscanning to work on my 7301 card. It went through the H polarization on Intel 9 (58W) and correctly found all the high rate transponders, including both S and S2. This was more of a functional test to see if there was any hope, so I short-circuited a lot of the code. I believe this is the reason why the low SRs were missed.

While this is all very encouraging, I can't promise anything soon. One of the major stumbling blocks is the rather poorly conceived S2API over which the Linux boys and girls are still patting themselves on the back. I haven't decided whether to hack this further to death, or develop a separate, more appropriate path for doing blindscanning. I could get things to work within the existing framework, but it would be less than optimal in speed and in accuracy. I've always loved the Linux philosophy of code first and (maybe) think later. There's always time to do it over, but never time to do it right. At least the hardware seems to be doing the job.

Edit: made some minor fixes and now it is getting all the SRs, low to high. This doesn't solve the S2API issue, and I'm certain I could increase the sensitivity for low CNRs, but I'm calling it a night.

While this is all very encouraging, I can't promise anything soon. One of the major stumbling blocks is the rather poorly conceived S2API over which the Linux boys and girls are still patting themselves on the back. I haven't decided whether to hack this further to death, or develop a separate, more appropriate path for doing blindscanning.

If there's no support for blind-scanning in the standard, I vote for ignoring the standard. It's not like there are any other blind-scanning tuners available!

Latest DVB Word tuner models are blindscan capable ( I should say "blindscan ready") with proper driver support. Some Skystar earlier tuner models were reported to have blindscan support on this forum. Of course, any standard is supposed to be a living and breezing, developing creature, as many are. ;) Interesting progress, and will hopefully materialize in a working solution.

Some quick updates:

I now have both the Prof 7301 (PCI) and 7500 (USB) blindscanning. I've been mostly busy working on fixes in the driver that are unrelated to blindscanning, and I have a ways to go on that side. At the moment the code finds and correctly measures just about anything in DVB-S and DVB-S2 flavors I've tried. The driver indicates it can also do DSS, but I haven't tested that. It can miss an occasional low SR signal in the presence of others. I haven't spent any time on this, but I have some ideas.

Is there any particular reason that the company hasn't come up with blindscanning for Windows? I have nothing against Linux, but it seems strange that they wouldn't take advantage of all of the capabilities of their product.

Is there any particular reason that the company hasn't come up with blindscanning for Windows? I have nothing against Linux, but it seems strange that they wouldn't take advantage of all of the capabilities of their product.

There are PC tuner companies that supply their own tuner applications for Windows. For the most part these applications are next to useless and one quickly finds better free and commercial choices. Then there are companies like Prof that sell their cards with only drivers. At least Prof has guides that show how to install the apps and configure them. If this helps keeps the cost of the cards down, I'm all for it.

At the moment there are no blindscanning apps for Windows that I am aware of. This may change with the availability of PC tuners like Prof makes, and others that people have pointed out on these forums. One problem that could make this difficult is the existing BDA interface that Microsoft defined isn't even capable of doing DiSEqC, and probably much less blindscanning. Already each vendor comes up with their own hack to get DiSEqC to work, and this makes it difficult to get multiple PC tuner apps to work across different cards. I can very well see the lack of such standardization blocking the creation of blindscanning technologies on Windows. It will likely require a company to create their own app and hacks for their drivers.

The situation is pretty much the same on Linux, with the only difference is one can jump in and rewrite the code as one desires.

Is there any matrix that compare the DVB World, Techno-trend, Prof cards for features, price etc? I also plan on running one of these S2 cards on Linux as the Skywalker-1 I have does not support S2 but I am not sure which would be a better choice.

Hi Pendragon, first thanks for your work, i'm very glad to see someone interested in blindscannig with PCI Cards and I really hope that a windows blindscaning application be availale soon . A small correction there is a 2 blindscaning application for windows, but it's just for the Skystar2 (Ver 2.3) I currently own one and works perfectly and thats why I'm interested in your appplication because there is no DVB-S2 PCI blindscan as far as I know

Happy new year to everyone from South America




PS: There could be a few gramatical mistakes, english it's not my mother language

There are PC tuner companies that supply their own tuner applications for Windows. For the most part these applications are next to useless and one quickly finds better free and commercial choices. Then there are companies like Prof that sell their cards with only drivers. At least Prof has guides that show how to install the apps and configure them. If this helps keeps the cost of the cards down, I'm all for it.

At the moment there are no blindscanning apps for Windows that I am aware of. This may change with the availability of PC tuners like Prof makes, and others that people have pointed out on these forums. One problem that could make this difficult is the existing BDA interface that Microsoft defined isn't even capable of doing DiSEqC, and probably much less blindscanning. Already each vendor comes up with their own hack to get DiSEqC to work, and this makes it difficult to get multiple PC tuner apps to work across different cards. I can very well see the lack of such standardization blocking the creation of blindscanning technologies on Windows. It will likely require a company to create their own app and hacks for their drivers.

The situation is pretty much the same on Linux, with the only difference is one can jump in and rewrite the code as one desires.

i can only say thank you for doing what i would have tried to. it seems that most manu's dont want a blind scan feature to exist. if your into conspiracies, think of a 32 dish rig blindscanning 24 / 7 and reporting to the internet. it makes provider sneaks impossible. i am almost in possession of the gear to take advantage of your code i have salvaged many dishes and in turn i want to develop linux code to report our findings to the mass. itd be a cool project. i could help with the driver code but you seem to have it under control with baseline progress daily. when your blind scan or someone elses goes public i think many of our feeds will encrypt. but its the nature of what we do. keep up the great work. if you dont some other linux nut will.

crackt out,.

The driver indicates it can also do DSS, but I haven't tested that. It can miss an occasional low SR signal in the presence of others. I haven't spent any time on this, but I have some ideas.That would be great to activate DSS support, literally adding Twinhan 1020A clear DSS reception capabilities to this tuner line. :up

That would be great to activate DSS support, literally adding Twinhan 1020A clear DSS reception capabilities to this tuner line. :up

Some of the DSS support was already turned on in the STV0903 driver, and I've fixed a few minor oversights. Presumably it will work but I doubt I'll put any effort into testing DSS. Others can report back, however.

Since many reported in Twinhan 1020A devoted forum threads that unencrypted music channels (http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-pc-dvb-discussion/180482-unencrypted-dss-channels.html) are plentiful in DSS, sure some people might be interested to test it and report back their results. ;)

Since many reported in Twinhan 1020A devoted forum threads that unencrypted music channels (http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-pc-dvb-discussion/180482-unencrypted-dss-channels.html) are plentiful in DSS, sure some people might be interested to test it and report back their results. ;)

You would have to know me better to understand this is exactly the reason I won't be testing DSS ;) But I'll try to fix anything that's broken.

New subject. Since we're talking about this in the 'kitchen-sink gizmo' thread, I'm attaching some shots of Intelsat 9 (58W) C-band vertical polarization spectrum swept by the Prof 7301 card from my 1.8m with a few lines of driver hacks compared to my bench SA. I wouldn't want to live without the latter, but the former will do a lot of what people need. Both the SA and BLSA provide additional frequency resolution. The 7301 vertical scale isn't calibrated, because I'm still working on that. The scan took about 12 seconds on the 7301. That was just a gut setting I made for testing. It might work as well faster, or might do better if slower. I haven't done any comparisons, yet.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding DSS clear channels. Many people argued that if a provider does not encrypt a set of channels, they don't intend to limit the audience capable to watch and listen to these channels. Who can possible tell for sure, what a broadcaster's intent was in transmitting channels in clear? Advertising own services..., indifference, compliance with a sponsor or law requirement..., common good..., second guessing? Does any law prohibit receiving sat channels transmitted in clear - which one?

I also noted, you're making good progress with blind scan support as well. As to the progress with BLSA, its really coming great! To broaden the audience of people, possibly interested in using such driver's feature, can anyone suggest a simplified Manual or Guide explaining what BLSA is, what it's usually used for, and how exactly to read and interpret the scan results picture? In other words, any publication that would explain what a BLSA or Spectrum Analyzer shows on screen, what the difference btw these devices, and how acquired by BLSA data, when correctly interpreted, can be used to improve signal reception or sat system design?

I'm not sure what you mean regarding DSS clear channels. Many people argued that if a provider does not encrypt a set of channels, they don't intend to limit the audience capable to watch and listen to these channels. Who can possible tell for sure, what a broadcaster's intent was in transmitting channels in clear? Advertising own services..., indifference, compliance with a sponsor or law requirement..., common good..., second guessing? Does any law prohibit receiving sat channels transmitted in clear - which one?

Sorry to send you on a wild goose chase. I simply don't enjoy listening to music via lossy compressed audio. CDs are bad enough. I'm proud to be arrogant :)

Hi pendragon Thanks for all the reports so far, I look forward to further updates and some code to play with in the future.

I have ordered 2 7301's and a single 7500 for playing with.

Could you tell me which driver you ended up using the stv0900_core.c or the stv090x.c version. Or I guess a combination of both.

The stv090x.c is easier to read and looks easier to modify/use for blind scanning.

The repository at v4l-dvb: Summary (http://powarman.dyndns.org/hgwebdir.cgi/v4l-dvb/summary) has a number of recent changes to the stv090x.c driver.

I also assume you have seen Roberto Ragusa's proof of concept Linux blind scan application for the skystar 2.3p [linux-dvb] [RFC][ANNOUNCE] blindscan 0.2 and related patch (http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/linux-dvb/2004/08-2004/msg00217.html) The code is very raw, but proved it could be done.

Thanks

Could you tell me which driver you ended up using the stv0900_core.c or the stv090x.c version. Or I guess a combination of both.

The stv090x.c is easier to read and looks easier to modify/use for blind scanning.

There are two separate camps developing drivers for the stv0903. One is the stv090x* version, which has been focused on the TT S2-1600 instantiation, while the stv0900* version is focused on other units like Prof. In many ways 090x appeared to be farther along a while back, but there are political reasons that make 0900* arguably a better starting point and that is what I am working from.

Regardless, both camps have a lot of code in common. They both likely derived from a vendor baseline and may be looking over each other's shoulders. They both have many of the same bugs. Be aware though that the Linux connotation of 'blindscanning' is not in the same vernacular as for FTA. Drivers often take this to mean that when tuning to a particular signal, they set up the tuner to the provided parameters and let it lock. In FTA, frequencies can be quite far off because of LNB accuracies and instabilities, and the Linux 'blindscanning' path allows this and the SR to be fine locked to what the tuner is actually seeing.

Both drivers for this demod take advantage of the fact that this chip can also find the modulation type, FEC, etc. on its own, and does not require the application to provide them. In fact if it does, they are ignored. All I'm saying is take the 'blindscanning' references with a grain of salt. There is only a cursory relationship to what we consider that to be in FTA, and there is no indication this was implemented in order to support a 'true' FTA blindscanning capability. However it was a great place to start and without it I might still be a ways from getting the feature to work.


I also assume you have seen Roberto Ragusa's proof of concept Linux blind scan application for the skystar 2.3p [linux-dvb] [RFC][ANNOUNCE] blindscan 0.2 and related patch (http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/linux-dvb/2004/08-2004/msg00217.html) The code is very raw, but proved it could be done.

I had been unaware of this until another soul pointed it out to me very recently. Unfortunately there is nothing here of any real value. For the moment, PC tuner blindscanning tightly couples hardware, driver and application. It's not clear the hardware has progressed to the point where one can abstract out the chip specifics from the high-level function.

I want to clarify for the forum moderators and visitors.

We refused to zamar23 in the exclusive distribution of products PTG in the United States and Canada. The reasons are not important for this technical forum.

It is important that, evidently, zamar23 offended. And I now see that he wrote a lot of negative and misleading information about our products Prof, our STM chips, etc.

Thank you Pendragon for the fact that you calmly accept attacks zamar23. Thank you for what you're trying to explain technical things to people who do not understand how DVB-S/S2 cards work.

P.S.
I have already decided that I will not deal with nonsense. I will not enter into a discussion on meaningless issues. I will not try to destroy the myths and fantastic tales about our and competing products.

P.P.S.
Pendragon also thank you for the work on a review of Prof-7301 (http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/review_prof_7301.html). I think that the review could be discussed at this forum.

Stephan1

I don't know who you are buddy, or whom you represent - people can claim various things on open forums. What I do know however, I posted as much positive and objective info about Prof cards as just about any other product on this forum. What was the misleading info you're referring to? Its not welcome to copy such absurd statements to multiple forum threads and attack personally members, especially without giving facts, and its against forum rules to do both.

What I also know, I don't sell any sat cards. ;) As well, the cards in question are designed and manufactured in China by TBS, so what sense would it make to discuss their US distribution rights with a remote distributor selling them in Russia under Prof label? Just because they have an English version of their website? Most European webstores have websites in several languages - doesn't mean it makes sense to talk any product rights with them. I assume it can only happen to someone by being misled. And what can possibly be wrong, if people contact a presumed manufacturer with their questions and proposals? It happens all the time - so what? People still share all relevant product experience - positive and problematic - on forums like this. :)

Consumers in NA have the right to know the facts about every product offered to them. Can you post any proof that Prof company designed these cards or manufactures them at their own facility - where? Is there anything essential to that company beyond their website, any facility or property in any country - at what address? Yours and their pretend are simply laughable, and to be honest, it really can mislead easily, as I was misled initially thinking Prof company developed and makes the cards....in Hamburg, until people posted here to procure them from TBS address in China. :D These are all reasonable questions that prospective consumers have the right to know because there are laws in this country that protect consumers from fraud and misrepresentation - nothing "negative".

zamar23, (http://www.satelliteguys.us/member.php?u=132908) I am not obliged to prove anything to you. We are doing the best hardware (PCB) and software (Drivers + Application Software = PTG Engine 1.7). You can have a different opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.


their own facility - where?
In Shenzhen. Come to our city.

Please read my previous post:

I will not enter into a discussion on meaningless issues. I will not try to destroy the myths and fantastic tales about our and competing products.

Good luck!

DVBViewer Prof 7300/7301/7500/8000 RC Plug-In


http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/soft_prof/dvbviewer/ProfRemote.dll

Installation:
Copy the file to the directory ProfRemote.dll Plugins
Connection:
"Settings", "Options ...","Input","Inputplugins","Prof Remote"
Education:
"Settings", "Options ...","Input ","Learn"
The latest beta viewer on training buggy and under certain circumstances fall. Look carefully.


Good luck!

Stephan1 (http://satelliteguys.us/member.php?u=147665) when will be available the 8000?

Soon. In April 2010 or May 2010.

But, as you can see in our online-shop, price of Prof-8000 will be high.

PCIe chip more expensive. And this is new product. For PCIe fans.

News

26.03.2010 — Started beta-testing Prof Revolution in DVB-player SkyView (http://www.skyview.pl/). You need to download the distribution SkyView and make it update to the version that supports Prof Revolution 7301/7500/8000. The results of testing is necessary to describe in the forum (http://forum.esat.pl/viewtopic.php?p=118692).
___________

DVBViewer Pro RC Plug-In beta-testing here:
http://www.dvbviewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=39891

I see so what would be the difference between 7301 and 8000?

will be just the PCI/PCie bridge or something else?

I see so what would be the difference between 7301 and 8000?

will be just the PCI/PCie bridge or something else?

From what I understand, the noise floor will be less with the 8000.

Jim

Hey guys. Just got a 7500 and I probably have a stupid question.
How do you install the driver in Windows 7?

It came with a CD and when I click the install driver link, it just opens a directory. Windows detects it as an unknown device. In device manager, I pointed it towards that directory but it says Windows could not find the driver for the device.

NEVERMIND. it was a stupid question. I had to use download the 64bit drivers from the Prof web site since the CD does not seem to have them.

One thing I noticed right away for others interested in this receiver. It comes with a european AC plug and you have to buy an adapter to use it here in North America.

Mine was also missing the remote batteries.

Now onto playing with my new toy...

I got my new one today, too. I chopped off the Euro plug and put on one from a lamp cord. Works fine so far. Watched the Yankees on it today. Been spending a couple hours configuring all the NA transponders.
:)

Mine is DOA it appears :(

No voltage out to the LNB. I've tried both ProgDVB and DVBDream.

UPDATE: Spoke too soon. Rebooted and now DVBDream is working. Now to play...

It comes with a european AC plug
Pls, more good read System Requirements at
http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/prof7500.html
(http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/prof7500.html)
We wrote: Socket type C or F (85-265V)

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Mine was also missing the remote batteries.

At first, American shipping companies equated batteries in hazardous explosive cargo. Then tighten introduced other carriers. Recently arrived outright ban on the shipment of batteries via any transportation company or Postal Service. In view of the terrorist threat not permitted to carry the batteries. FYI, the batteries are allowed to carry only a lighter.

We manually removed the batteries from the box to be able to send you a package. Next Party Prof always be supplied without batteries. Rick will also sell the products without batteries. Either independently complete. We are unable to deliver the goods with batteries. Transportation companies are refusing to accept goods if they contain batteries.

Thanks for the info on all of that!

After playing around with it for about 8 hours I think this card is great. I'm using it on a new Core i5 Laptop that has an HDMI 1080p out to my 50" Plasma TV.

Probably like most FTA cards, it was tough trying to get it to run reliably on Windows 7 x64 though. I use a motor and the only program I could get to move it on a regular basis with USALS was ProgDVB. ProgDVD does crash every once in a while when I'm scanning for new channels. I'm open to try other programs if you guys have any suggestions.

The 64 bit version of ProgDVB wouldn't play AC3 audio (probably because of 32 bit codecs) so I had to go to the 32 bit version. The picture on HD content is perfect and looks as good or better than OTA content. SD content is a little jerky but I probably just need to try out different codecs.

http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html

We spent 3 month for blind scan. And need 3-4 months for complete of blind scan project.

http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html

We spent 3 month for blind scan. And need 3-4 months for complete of blind scan project.

Thanks for the update, we're looking forward to playing with the blindscan.
:)

http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html

We spent 3 month for blind scan. And need 3-4 months for complete of blind scan project.

Good news, I hope some of these dvb software applications will integrate this ability into their software.

PTG Engine 1.7 Blind Scan Interface (http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html)

We spent 3 month for blind scan. And need 3-4 months for complete of blind scan project.

Excited to see what it can do. I just bought myself one today!

I'm using SichboPVR seems to work well with Prof 7500:up


Thanks for the info on all of that!

After playing around with it for about 8 hours I think this card is great. I'm using it on a new Core i5 Laptop that has an HDMI 1080p out to my 50" Plasma TV.

Probably like most FTA cards, it was tough trying to get it to run reliably on Windows 7 x64 though. I use a motor and the only program I could get to move it on a regular basis with USALS was ProgDVB. ProgDVD does crash every once in a while when I'm scanning for new channels. I'm open to try other programs if you guys have any suggestions.

The 64 bit version of ProgDVB wouldn't play AC3 audio (probably because of 32 bit codecs) so I had to go to the 32 bit version. The picture on HD content is perfect and looks as good or better than OTA content. SD content is a little jerky but I probably just need to try out different codecs.

Got myself a Prof 7500 today.. to play with, hehe. I like how small and compact it actually is.
This will be used with my Dell Studio XPS 13

PTG Engine 1.7 Blind Scan Interface (http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html)

We spent 3 month for blind scan. And need 3-4 months for complete of blind scan project.

Well, its been over a month, where can we see the screenshots of the blind scan interface?

"03.04.2010 — Within a month screenshots of the utility for work with PTG Engine 1.7 Blind Scan Interface will be published."

Hi Stephan1

I've been using the Prof 7500 for freeview here in the UK for a couple of months, and am impressed at its speed, sensitivity and build quality.

I went back to Prof for a second tuner, but was advised by Stephan in a support email to get an 8000 (PCI-E), as two identical Prof tuners won't work on the same machine.

My 8000 turned up a week ago, but a little problem: there is no Windows 32-bit driver on the install CD, and W7 32-bit driver on the Prof site.

I've sent in a couple of support emails to Prof, but have had no reply, so please could you tell me:
1) does the 8000 work with Windows 32-bit yet?
2) how/where is a driver?

I'm cool waiting a month, or perhaps trying an alpha or beta driver, but would like to start using the tuner ...

Cheers Judy

well I took the plunge. My prof 7500 is shipped and enroute. should see it in about a month, gona be interesting I have all the cables layed out and ready, wife is gonig to have to hook it up because im not going to be around lol. we'll see if she can figure it out for me so I can remote access in :)

A month? :eek: Mine only took a couple of days...

Yup I got mine in 2 days

Rick had mine to me in 2 days as well. Very happy with the product!

I ordered my Prof 7500 from Hong Kong before Rick got them in stock. Took a little over a week to get it. It's the best DVB/DVB-S2 tuner I've used so far.

I also got mine before Rick carried them, and the shipping took about 10 days from China, although I was prepared for a month delay. The 7500 has definetly been the easiest to deal with of the 4 units I've had. If only I could get it to work with TSreader, I'd be much happier.
:)

I ordered mine from HK, Ive had bad experience ordering anything from the USA, I wish I could support the US dealers more I really do but anything that cross's that Canada/USA border gets raped and the way through.

I ordered a $60usd spaun 411 from a dealer once and by the time it arrived I had paid $125cdn total. The border charges you duty, handling fee's, environmental fee's on electronics, provincial tax, federal tax, misc fee's (no joke Ive seen 'misc fee' on way bills from the border)

its not the dealers fault, its that damn border crossing, its screwing dealers out of customers. HK was $65 and rick is $75 imo his price is more then fair and I would gladly spend $10 more to support someone in the USA. but with all the fee's Id be charged Id pay probably close to $150cdn vs $65 for that tuner. I just cant afford the difference.

I ordered mine from HK, Ive had bad experience ordering anything from the USA, I wish I could support the US dealers more I really do but anything that cross's that Canada/USA border gets raped and the way through.

I ordered a $60usd spaun 411 from a dealer once and by the time it arrived I had paid $125cdn total. The border charges you duty, handling fee's, environmental fee's on electronics, provincial tax, federal tax, misc fee's (no joke Ive seen 'misc fee' on way bills from the border)

its not the dealers fault, its that damn border crossing, its screwing dealers out of customers. HK was $65 and rick is $75 imo his price is more then fair and I would gladly spend $10 more to support someone in the USA. but with all the fee's Id be charged Id pay probably close to $150cdn vs $65 for that tuner. I just cant afford the difference.

I hear ya man same thing here. Just bought a Prof 7500 from HK $62 US cost me $84 Canadian to my door in 3 days.. We North Americans have got to get our act together the asians are eating our lunch

Just purchased a Prof 7301, should be here Monday...

I'm brand new to FTA, I have a receiver I just got - wish I did a little research - seems PC cards are more capable, and since I already have a windows 7 HTPC running, this should (*should!) integrate nicely.

I don't care if it works through WMC or not (although that'd be nice...), I just hope windows supports blind scanning with this card. I believe it does, from what I've read - I hope I'm not wrong on that.

I think the 7301 has a blind scanning driver if you run Linux.

I think the 7301 has a blind scanning driver if you run Linux.

If it does, I'd like to know where to get it. I know a driver is in the works but I don't think it's been released yet.

Jim

I think you are right Jim. I did see a beta test thing a while back but I do not remember where.

Hmm well then, I may be dusting off my Ubuntu box..

My 8000 turned up a week ago, but a little problem: there is no Windows 32-bit driver on the install CD, and W7 32-bit driver on the Prof site.

I've sent in a couple of support emails to Prof, but have had no reply, so please could you tell me:
1) does the 8000 work with Windows 32-bit yet?
2) how/where is a driver?

They must have been posted fairly recently, but the Prof site now shows "temporary" 32-bit drivers for the 8000 in the download section. They claim the release versions are expected in June.

I think the 7301 has a blind scanning driver if you run Linux.

So no chance on the 7500 doing the same with Linux huh ?

So no chance on the 7500 doing the same with Linux huh ?

I'd think that you could. If I'm not mistaken, the chipsets are the same as the 7301.

Jim

I'd think that you could. If I'm not mistaken, the chipsets are the same as the 7301.

Jim

ama have to make another partition on my lappy and microwave box for linux if that's the case.. hehe

When I first was looking at buying the 7500, I saw a post of two somehwere about people messing with a Linux driver and blindscan. I didn't bookmark where those were so hopefully this stuff will surface. Can't wait to get blindscan that works with Windows as well!

This is slightly confusing, on the Prof website, they claim windows blind scan is coming soon...but this diagram makes it look like its here? (I haven't installed my card yet to confirm/deny)

PTG Engine 1.7 Blind Scan Interface (http://www.prof-tuners.com/eng/blindscan.html)

The page is a bit confusing, they are still working on the blind scan project. Hopefully it will be ready soon.

would be nice to get a update on the BS interface.....even if they have a ways to go still. They only mention talks with Skyview. With progs like DVBdream moving away from freeware, it would be nice to know whom is going to support this interface. Been tempted to purchase DVBviewer (just for transedit) or DVBdream (AAC support) but reluctant simply because of the BS interface, with trumps all other needs for me for a DVB prog :)

About Blind Scan PTG Engine Interface...


They only mention talks with Skyview.
Also
DVBDream (X05 asked me via email).
SichboPvr (Benjamin asked me via email, Sichbo(Simon) asked me via PM in dvbn.happysat).

Also I discuss it with Prog. I think that he will after the discoverers.

Now we must wait for the R&D.

Its encouraging that there is some interest from those guys, if one does it then others will want to follow suit.

Glad to hear about DVBDream. DVBviewer would be a plus just for transedit alone.

Streamreader.dll for Prof-8000 (PTG Engine), 19 KB
http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/soft_prof/8000/Streamreader.dll

Beta-module (PTG Engine) AltDVB 2.2 (Prof-6200/7300/7301/7500/8000) with RC support
http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/beta/Dev_Prof.int

Beta-module (PTG Engine) DVBDream (Prof-6200/7300/7301/7500/8000)
http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/beta/bda_Prof.dev

are these supporting blindscan ? or just bug fix's ?

:)))
You all some crazy with mystical "blind scan":)

This is updates for PCI-E device Prof-8000.

must be lost in translation, I'll ignore the first line and read the second.

Thanks for the changelog, I wont bother switching my prof over to windows unless there is a blindscan driver/software released. Windows is a horrible os imo for doing anything at all in

Hi,
I recently bought a PROF 7500 USB revolution series. Everything is working and fine, but
today I noticed something that raised my concern about my card being counterfeit.
It's about the "USB 2.0 CERTIFIED" logo on top of the device.
actually it is written "CERTIFIEO". I mean letter "O" instead of "D".
Here is a picture of my card.
I have to note that I could register my device in prof-tuners.com successfully.
Anybody seen this before?
I want to know if this is natural or my card is counterfeit.
Thanks in advance...
sorry for my poor English.

no idea, mine is burried in cables lol

whered you buy it?

i got mine from prof's own webstore and it has the same spelling mistake. your tuner is most likely genuine.

crackt out,.

Thank you for your quick replies.
I live in iran (middle-east) and I got mine from a local store.
If it is genuine, they have to correct that in future productions because I think people are really sensitive about this things.
well, that's a shame.

Has anyone successfully installed the 7500 in 64 bit Vista? I downloaded the "Win x64 bit"drivers from their site but Vista refuses to install them, and those drivers seemed to be the only ones that could possibly work so I'm a bit lost here.

I noticed there is an older 1.0.1.4 x64 driver here Index of /download/beta (http://prof-tuners.com/download/beta/) have you tried that one?

The older version installed without any problems, thanks :)
Seems weird that the newer version won't work though, hopefully there are no major issues in this old version.

What are warranty periods for Prof cards in North America?

I noticed recently, when switching to DVB-S2 in AltDVB or DVBDream, my Prof-7301 works for 2-3 min, then the app gets locked, and requires PC reboot to start working again on any S or S2 channel. Anyone else experienced such issue? I wonder if its Elecard codec bugs, or some caps on the card need replacement, as the tuner NIM heats up a lot more when decoding DVB-S2? It's been working pretty well for a while though... :)

I didn't notice any particular switching to cause the lockups but the same things happens in Aldvb with my 7301. It locks after 3-5 minutes, doesn't seem to matter what codecs or renderers I'm using. I should try with my Prof 8000 to see if its the same...

Where did you buy your Prof cards - in their site's online store or locally? What warranty period was printed on your receipt or other docs? Do you know, who pays for warranty related shipments back-n-forward?

I hope, its AltDVB fault, this app hasn't being updated for awhile, but I still manage to use it in both XP and Win7, since its the ideal app to move the motor where it really should be moved for a given sat. Works well to position a dish, before switching to TSReader to play with the sat. :)

I think I bought it from the on-line site but I can't remember and no paperwork. The web site says one year warranty....
Our warranty covers one year from the payment date | proftuners.com (http://proftuners.com/warranty.html)

It's possible you have a hardware problem with regard to S2, but I would look first elsewhere. I have 5 Profs running on Linux (3 x 7301 and 2 x 7500) and 2 on Windows XP (1 x 7301 and 1 x 8000). I've subjected a considerable amount of S2 to all of them, and during last year's Galaxy 15 festival some of them ran 24 x 7 for several weeks on the high SR S2 transponders without incident. So I can attest there is no systemic heat or other problem related to S2 use.

I can't say much specifically on AltDVB - I tried it out in 2009, didn't like it and haven't bothered with it since. I do use DVB Dream 1.4i and have tested several of the 1.5 versions. The 1.5 versions contain some wicked bugs in the processing of certain transport streams, and I finally had to give up on them. So I've been using the 1.4i version without serious issue for longer than I can remember. It has a few problems and limitations, but nothing I cannot work around, and it has always been my Windows workhorse. My two copies of DVB Dream run continuously without intervention for months, however as they are only a front-end to my multimedia server, they perform no rendering and all codecs are disabled on that machine. That is probably different from the way most people run their FTA PCs.

@Pendragon

I would like to install Prof 7500 on XP SP3 (momentary installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 and Microsoft Framework 2.0, Windows Media Player 11, Mainconcept Decoder Pro, DirextX 9.0c, Acrobat Reader X, I`m not sure I need or not upgrade to Microsoft Framework 3.5 Family and Microsoft Visual C++ 2010...as I know one "little" detail can make problems.... with Windows.... and usb receiver... and now I`m not sure what I need to do...), as I can read this and Rick`s forum I`m too too much confused. Please tell me what I need to do for properly installation, step by step. As you said DVB Dream 1.4i is better and I respect you and will try that. But I dont know about drivers and bda module differencies, what I need to install and which version. Someone else tell me it is latest driver but someone it is some other.

Drivers for Prof Revolution S2 7500 USB | proftuners.com (http://www.proftuners.com/node/331)

Index of /download/beta (http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/beta)

Index of /download/drivers_prof (http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/drivers_prof)

Your experience, and knowledge, is great and you know after all the best. Thank you beforehand for help. Still my Prof 7500 is not arrived to home, 6th day, and I would like to prevent nervous days with crashes and other problems on Acer Aspire One D150, especially with stability and DVB-S2 reception. Maybe Smart DVB is better, but I love too much DVB Dream and must be my first choice for beginning with new USB receiver. Untill now I tried Skystar PCI 2.6B, Skystar USB Plus Box, Skystar USB 2 and Skystar HD2.

Thank you again and best regards

Sorry Edoh, I've been out of town for several days and haven't had time to check on forums. The only PC tuners I run on Windows at the moment are the Prof 7301 and 8000. However I did use a 7500 on XP(SP3) for several months and it worked fine. That was up until about a year ago, so i can only vouch for the latest driver for that time period. If you run DVB Dream 1.4i with a Prof tuner and want to use DiSEqC and/or USALS, you will also need their version of the bda.dev module. I can't find it anywhere on their new website, although they do have an image that shows a URL that redirects to the AdvanceTune site where you can find the software:

I didn't try it, but for the 7500 it appears the file you want is at:

http://www.prof-tuners.com/download/soft_prof/dvbdream/bda_advancetune.dev

thank you for answer, never mind when important is it happened

maybe your driver was Prof7500_Driver_1.0.1.2_W32 (from 5.6.2009) ? i found it on proftuners.com

i`m afraid to try wrong (with bad results i mean) driver, maybe newest version Prof7500_Driver_2.0.0.2_XP32 is not better and is buggy.....

else i dont need diseqx or usals because i have inverto twin ultra lnb and one coax. attached to opticum 7100c (for my long experience most reliable receiver for moving strong 2100 diseqc1.2 rotor) and other coax. cable will be attached to prof 7500 (still not arrived, if not arrive tomorrow i must wait 4.5.:( because 1.,2. and 3.5 not working days :(, i hate wait too long, from 20.04.)....because from that days trying to be utilized for prof 7500....too long for me....pih....

Has anyone tried the new Prof 7301 Beta! Driver for Win7 (64 bit, PTG Engine) 2.1.0.0 that was post on ProfTuners website yesterday? Or know what's new with these drivers?

I see there's also a 32 bit version posted as well.

Qbox3 from TBS is equipped with TDA10071 and built in blind scan

But is there software for it ? esp linux software, I personally couldn't care less about windows

Do these tuners support 4:2:2? Blind scan?

Do these tuners support 4:2:2? Blind scan?

4:2:2 is supported by software not hardware. there is also 3rd party blindscan software called crazy scan that supports the prof hardware.

crackt out,.