Trying to get a pci driver installed on my laptop usb 2.0. Looked in Bios and there was no option for pci. Only help I got was from the DVB World Manual. The QQ Box Sold on eBay has no support at all from Shenzan Manufacturer. The Software and driver are from Blaze and I did get theri driver installed. The Vista Home Premium does not recognize a PCI device attached to the USB port.

Tried to download the driver from download.com and zd.net but no luck. Microsoft Downloads was no help either.

You appear to be looking for a USB Device Driver for TV-SO2 (http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/238579017-USB-2-0-DVB-S-FTA-SATELLITE-TV-RECEIVER-wholesalers.html) DVB-S receiver. While the driver and Sat TV viewer software are said to be included with it on a CD, its hard to find anyone able to get this particular nice looking device actually working in N/A. Not sure, what PCI has to do with it, but good luck!

You appear to be looking for a USB Device Driver for TV-SO2 (http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/238579017-USB-2-0-DVB-S-FTA-SATELLITE-TV-RECEIVER-wholesalers.html) DVB-S receiver. While the driver and Sat TV viewer software are said to be included with it on a CD, its hard to find anyone able to get this particular nice looking device actually working in N/A. Not sure, what PCI has to do with it, but good luck!

This DVB-S Receiver has a PCI Chipset and in order for the USB to communicate with it must have a special driver. Called, Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Driver.

Are you able to see this tuner in Windows Device Manager or similar applications, like Everest? How exactly its identified there (list hierarchically)?

Go into Device Manager> right-click on the problem USB Controller>Properties> and let windows search on the Net for the driver.

If you don't see the device, and can't find the required driver on its CD or the net, you have 2 options:

- search the web for controller models used in this device, or for the driver itself (you need to know the controller model unfortunately, though universal Vista compatible driver may be available.)

OR

- open its cover and accurately list in this thread all chip models soldered on it's PCB you manage to read, adding its open case close-up pics.

Are you able to see this tuner in Windows Device Manager or similar applications, like Everest? How exactly its identified there (list hierarchically)?

Go into Device Manager> right-click on the problem USB Controller>Properties> and let windows search on the Net for the driver.

If you don't see the device, and can't find the required driver on its CD or the net, you have 2 options:

- search the web for controller models used in this device, or for the driver itself (you need to know the controller model unfortunately, though universal Vista compatible driver may be available.)

OR

- open its cover and accurately list in this thread all chip models soldered on it's PCB you manage to read, adding its open case close-up pics.

Not in Device Manager, that is why I searched for it on the web. I can find the driver to download at several sites but cnet and zdnet who I trust return an error page from Microsoft.com I tried searching Microsoft Download and come up with XP SP2 for a location for the driver but the site will not download this to a PC with Vista running.

I will take pictures of the chip set and PCB and post them later today.

I was in hopes that this box was a clone of DVB World USB box and would run their well supported software and documentation.

Thought maybe this issue may have come up for those using the DVB World USB box.

This QQ tuner looks like a box developed exclusively for CN market and later adapted for export to NA by a CN company having no access to NA sats signals, and possible to English Vista OS version. :)

Once you ID the USB controller soldered on its PCB, try to find its manufacturer on the web, and, hopefully, vu a la...you'll get your driver in several places. Whether out of lack or have found it, post the info and file here for others. Can you also post an archive of the small CD that comes with it or a link to it? You may want to amend your thread title, adding QQ Box name to it.

There is one VLSI chip the LME2510C that connects to the USB port.

The BlazeTV software and the LME driver are supplied on a mini cd.
verified LME driver is in windows/system32/drivers folder.

Their are two 34063 PRGJA chips.

All identified in attached Pics.

If anyone has a DVB World USB receiver, Please post Pics of PCB board for comparison.

Thank you

What's it frontend model - the NIM receiver's part number, where coax ends are connected?
What driver version do you have on the CD - does it match any of these LME Drivers (http://www.leaguerme.com/English/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=62)? The 34063 chip sounds like a voltage converter & regulator controller to me.

The Sharp tuner has W in a circle 9711CA and F7HZ7395.

I did download a newer driver that was identified as a USB dongle driver.
Followed the instructions and placed the files in PrgoDVB/Modules and BlazeTV/Plugins folders.

Vista still reports Unknown USB Device.

Could not figure out how to change the thread name.

USB configuration and DVB World Manual.

Forget about the DVB World Manual for now. Did you try MVB7395 (LME2510C+SHARP:BS2F7HZ7395) driver from LME site? Click on "Unknown USB device" Properties - Driver, and point to the unpacked 32-bit driver, installed in Windows folder or its corresponding sub-folder, or point to the latest file saved today in the repository: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository. You can find where the driver was installed by looking through its installer's log file, or using Vista File Search for latest files saved on your PC. If you still have a problem, try DriveMax (http://www.innovative-sol.com/drivermax/) to find another suitable driver or contact LME and let us know.

Followed these instructions;

Thanks for that, It shows like this;

Disconnect your DiSEqC Switch for now, connect your coax cable from the receiver directly to the LNB, and follow my post above. I don't think this should bear any effect on the device recognition by Windows anyway. The algorithm we followed is suitable to find a missing driver for any no-name "unknown device".

Straight to LNBF. Unknown USB error. Pointed to file in repository, Vista ignores it. Says best driver already installed but shows MS generic.

Seems strange to me that OEM software would create a USB comm interface.

There are several ways to install devices in Windows. Make sure, you're logged in as Administrator. Delete this Device from Windows Device Manager without disconnecting. Windows should start looking for its driver again, point to the correct driver (make sure its the right one), or follow Windows Add New Hardware (http://www.windows-vista-update.com/Windows_Vista_Add_Hardware.html) routing. If no luck, disconnect the Device, reboot Windows (it will read the updated by the driver Installer Registry), login as Admin and re-connect it again, pointing to the right driver. If no luck again, try to uninstall the driver, you just installed and all drivers for the same device, you installed previously, then follow basic instructions from Installing a USB Device in Vista (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-vista/Install-a-USB-device) page. You may also want to try to disconnect and Delete the device from Device Manager, shut down PC, connect the device and switch ON the PC causing to check its ports again, or try to leave the device connected and powered OFF, install its driver, then power the device ON. It should hopefully work out for you. :)

P.S. Just in case, switch OFF your antivirus soft before re-installing the driver, and don't forget to login as Admin. Same is true, when Deleting a device or changing its assigned driver via Add Hardware Wizard or Device Manager.

From your previous post I went to MS Support and ran their trouble shooting tool. It came back and said that I did not have windows update set for automatic driver updates. I could not find where in windows update to set it for automatic driver updates.

Used DriveMax and came up with only one driver current, but which one do I really need to get this working?

Look here (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/Update-a-driver-for-hardware-that-isnt-working-properly) for Auto Driver Update setup. However, I doubt for the MS Update Server to have this particular driver, and besides you already have the latest copy anyway. Just try installing the device properly, don't give up, follow above suggestions. Did you try DriverMax as well?

Another approach would be to ask a more experienced friend or MS Tech Support for that matter. They can help you remotely to install the driver you found via a small Remote Access application loaded to your PC to see its screen and control it, which can be deactivated later. :)

P.S. If you don't have problems with other devices, why update their drivers? Backup FileRepository folder before doing that, or use DriverMax to backup all drivers. You're on the right track, just need some patience. How DriverMax ID the tuner? It can also find a wrong driver, if the ID is wrong. But you seems to have the RIGHT DRIVER already.

Btw, what's the file name, version and date of a similar driver on the included CD? Run Everest (http://www.lavalys.com/news.php?article=65&selcat=PN&lang=en) to ID the device more accurately.

Their is an .EXE file on the CD so can't see file details. However it does install a much older file LMEDevice.dll.

Using LME software dated in 2008 everything seems to load properly. It has a USB installation file and that installs OK.

Using the MS DOC manual included I followed instructions for both ProgDVB and BlazeTV. Files appear in ProgDVB.

There is still that persistant USB Unknown device error and ProgDVB states driver not started.

It seems more likely now that there is a hardware malfunction.

I did swap the USB cable but had same results.

Too bad, it would be a neat little receiver if it worked, lol

You have been very helpful Zamar.

Thanks. It may not be a hardware problem, but that CN driver wasn't tested in Vista English. I still suggest you to cleanup your PC first by Deleting the device in Device Manager, uninstalling all relevant drivers you previously installed. Then run CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/) to cleanup your PC and its Registry, reboot, start Process Monitor (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx) to see where driver files are saved and what Registry entries are created, and reinstall the new driver without the unit attached. You may also want to delete older Registry entries manually, created by your previous installs of various drivers for the same device. Attach the device and watch Process Monitor for what happen when you try to change the device driver in Device Manager, what files the PC looks for and can't find.

Unpack and right click the USB driver file from the CD, and see its Properties, including Name and Version. Open new driver file from the above FileDepository folder in Notepad ++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/), and post its full content here. You should install newly downloaded USB Driver named DVBS_Sharp7395_20090317_x86_x64.exe, version 1.6.24 dated 03.17.09.

There is nothing to clean up in Device Manager. Nothing ever loads there.

As I see from your posts, Uknown USB Device with a Generic driver is registered there, and that driver and label get linked in Windows Registry to your sat tuner. Delete Unknown Device in Device Manager, and follow above suggestions.

That is not in Device Manager. When you plug the device into the USB port that screen comes up. But nothing ever is added to Device Manager.

In anycase Device Manager is back to normal.

OK, if Add New Hardware Wizard starts and shows this message, I assume you then follow the routing to point to the right driver, which Windows doesn't accept. May be you're pointing to the wrong file? Can you post series of screenshots with Windows messages that follow connection of the device and your actions?

Can you drop the installed driver inf file into Notepad++ window, save as .txt and post it here? Have you uninstalled all previous driver versions and cleaned up your PC with CCleaner? Did you run Everest after accepting the Generic driver for your tuner to find out the attached Unknown device's name, manufacturer and other data?

Interesting enough add new hardware manager never starts.

I'll attempt that next.

Looked back at that post and that was with the old LME software that came on the cd. Device Manager did show that (Unknown Device) with original software.

After deleting that and using the new driver you pointed me to on the LME web site, nothing gets added to Device Manager.

Can you post your OLD driver file pics from CD Properties like shown below? Attach a .txt file with NEW driver INF file content as well. For sure, we can make it work, probably 1-st time in N/A, as other reported, even if it's chipsets are dead. :)

As it turns out, the drivers on the cd are the new ones.

ANother file.

Step by step.

It looks like the device is supposed to be connected before driver installation starts. Old LMEBDA_DVBS7395C driver is V1.4c, and bundled in one package with old Blaze Player. It tries to check for a new version before install. Did you switch your A/V & Firewall Soft OFF? Cleanup your PC and try that before installing the old driver once again. Hopefully, it will update to latest version over the web before install.

If it can't update anyway, install the new driver you downloaded. If you already installed it, what's the sys file name and version? Its installer version is 1.6.4. If you can't uninstall the drivers, and don't have any Uninstaller soft, try manually delete all LME driver files you can find by File Search, and all its entries from Registry using Regedit search for entries mentioned in the file and similar. Then reboot PC, reconnect the device and reinstall the new driver (not bundled with Blaze). It should work, but channel switching & locking would probably work normally only in Blaze. Install the latest Blaze package from the player site. Everest may show the actual USB device make & ID.

Cleaned pc and checked to make sure all lme files deleted.

Installed 1.6.24

BlazeVideo V 3.5 is last free software. I am more familiar with ProgDVB.

Unknown Device, select inf. file repository.

File name is: lme_dvbs7395c.inf_58f5054e Will Vista read that extension?

In that file is lmebda_dvbs7395c.sys
by MICE dtv card driver dated 10/9/2009 Ver. 1.0.0.0

What if you point Add New Hardware to lmebda_dvbs7395c.sys in windows/system32/drivers folder? Try to find the same inf file in another Win folder. Also, I assume, you did all recommended (not mandatory) Vista Media Center updates, since the new driver & installer may reflect these updates.

At this point MS Tech support and LME Support will be good place to follow. User efforts in this regard are limited to correct driver install, other steps would require more knowledge, tools and info, available only to the device manufacturer - LME in this case. You may want to email them detail snapshots of Add New Hardware Wizard and Driver Install messages. :)

The tuners may be assembled by different vendors or branded differently, possibly with brand firmware uploaded that IDs the device differently. I wonder, if anyone can report success working with similar QQ-box, and what did it take to get there?

I found a thread or two about two to three years old in the european market. One guy actually got it to scan channels. I guess they pulled it from that market and are now dumping it in the USA. All of these devices from QQ have the euro style wall plugs. This last eBayer in China I bought this from was as disappointed as me that it would't work. He gave me a refund without me asking for it. Nice guy Sindya I think was his screen name.

I'll continue to play with it from time to time. If I get any positive results. i'll post.

Thanks again Zamar23

What's the model number of its power adapter? Can it handle 110 V / 60 Hz? What's its wattage? Anything about power requirements in the tuner spec or manual? May be it's really simple...

I bought once a small Toshiba USB Drive which didn't want to register or start ever. Guess what: "Unknown Device". I went to the vendor's website only to see hundreds of bad reviews for this drive. It sounded suspicious. Since the drive had only one USB cable, but no Power Adaptor and non-standard hard to find power connector, I suspected insufficient power, and bought a USB cable with an extra USB connector on one end. Hooked up both USB connectors to my laptop, and vu a la... The drive immediately shown up, and has being working perfectly ever since. I since replaced this cable with 2 cables: one USB and another USB-to-Power connector to avoid passing extra power required through its USB & SATA chipset.

There are no markings on this power cube. It has Euro pins and vendor was kind to throw a $20 US/Euro adapter. The QQ Box is labeled for 7.5 VDC and I measured 8.4 VDC out of it.

Considering that this has to drive a 300 ma H-H motor, supply switches and LNBF as well as power the QQ Box, the supply weighs only a few ounces.

Could be a problem.

I sent off a detailed e mail to LME. Just wait an hope now.

Vista will not load the driver from c:\windows\system 32\drivers or \file repository. Says those locations don't exist and I don't have authority.
I even corrected the file extension by copy to another location. rename to .inf and Bill wouldn"t let me copy it back to \drivers or \file repository.

Don't you just love to hate Bill Gates. ;-)

I hope, you logged in as Admin before doing that. Don't rename anything in system folders. I was curious enough about this stubborn cheap tuner to contact LME myself. That's what I got just now:

"Please kindly try some times. If the problem is still ,I think there is some bug in your hardware, if this, please kindly contact to your vendor.Thanks." :)

I'm still curious, if Everest can read its ID, make and model? Btw, there should be Serial interface on the PCB to talk to it, but one would probably need to solder a pin header, make a cable (ask LME for wiring diagram), and have LME Diagnostic software for it. May be you can ask to e-mail you latest Diag Utility and standard Firmware? I wonder, if its buggy branded firmware can be re-flashed with LME standard. At times it's done during driver installation routing, and you can ask for such installer as well. FTA hobby has no boundaries... :)

USB2.0 PCTV Controller IC (http://www.leaguerme.com/English/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=47)

Features:

USB2.0 transceiver
Flash controller for U-disk function (LME2520 only)
Support all digital TV standards (DVB-T/C/S, DMB-TH, T-DMB, CMMB, ATSC, ISDB-T,...)
Support SDTV and HDTV reception
Built-in enhanced microcontroller, support user program downloading
I2C serial interface for tuner and demodulator control
Built-in PID filtering
7mm X 7mm 64-pin LQFP small package

LME is a Fabless vendor and seem to be connected to a university in China. They are operating off of Chinese venture capitol.

It would be possible for me to re-flash the firmware if I had the correct software.

I will ask them for test point voltages first.

The PCB is very clean and flow soldered, looks first class.

Did you use the Sales email address?

I used their sales email, but it seems to be answered by a tech. You can ask them for a typical detail Spec for such DVB-S USB Tuner, including requirements to its Power Adapter. Let them know your chipset models, and ask how to re-flash the firmware. Hope, it can be done automatically via USB as part of its driver installation routing or separately. But one should be able to de-brick such unit via Serial. They should also know, who makes these tuners.

If there're no markings on your PS, how do you know, its suitable for US market? What's the measured OUT Voltage on the adapter, how it depends on its load? May be try a different one of decent quality made for N/A? Required LNB Power output from QQ-box should be : 25V DC 400mA (Max).

I sent LME another email requesting test point voltages and sent them a pic of the board.

The Chinglish reply that you received may be the extent of their English. Compare that to the reply that Starman got from DVBWorld in that thread. If the DVBWorld USB Receiver comes down, i'll buy one of them. Right now it's to pricy for a cops salary.

The voltage readings I got were good for the USB port and it looks like the LME2510C uses the PC USB supply of 5 Volts to operate and the power qube supplies the tuner F port connector with voltage via the switching power supply. Without the driver working there are no voltages on the F port.

Now just wait for more info. from LME. Did kinda sound like they are passing the buck to QQ Box. They never answered my emails.

They never answered my emails.With such tuner performance, I guess they're not talking to cops. Hope, they'll reveal who makes this stuff. :) May be you can ask Ice to rename this thread to "QQ-Box USB DVB-S Tuner - Unknown Device?" to warn potential buyers?

With such tuner performance, I guess they're not talking to cops. Hope, they'll reveal who makes this stuff. :) May be you can ask Ice to rename this thread to "QQ-Box USB DVB-S Tuner - Unknown Device?" to warn potential buyers?


Hope he can, he usually reads through FTA section like an Eagle eye.:D

Any news from QQ? Interesting example (http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Acorp_DS120) of firmware integration into a USB Card Windows driver. The example shows that similar DVB World device uses Cypress CY7C68013 USB bridge chipset.

Btw, there is a debug utility called usbsnoop (http://benoit.papillault.free.fr/usbsnoop/) that allows to log communication btw an "unknown" or known USB Device and its Windows Driver. It has clear Manual. And there's explanation (http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/10/16/USB-Snoop-in-linux) on how to use it with WMWare under Windows to reverse engineer a USB Device Driver, i.e. if you need to extract firmware from it. Do you want to try it? Would be interesting to find out, how this device ID itself, and what happens next... :)

No reply from either of the LME websites.

That answers my question about the DVBWorld USB DVB-S Chipset.

The DVBWorld Clone even has the same case as the original.

That software is for Windows XP so it may be asking for more trouble to load it into Vista.

What we need here is someone with software experience who can download the .rar file from LME, and look at the code of their driver.

Usbsnoop should work in Vista too. It doesn't install anything apart from placing usbsnoop.sys in Drivers dir to play a role of a buffer btw the device you select in usbsnoop's window and its driver. Its interesting to see the log it will create during the tuner driver installation, as it may hopefully read the tuner's ID, etc., and why Vista rejecting the driver, and then correct its .inf file. Just remember to open Usbsnoop's window to max to avoid blinking.

Window opens with garbage. May be Chinese characters. I'm going to look at the Setup.bat file that installs the driver. As previously posted it first reports error and then says complete. It may point to the drivers file. Then I will check to see if its installed.

Process Monitor (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx) from Sysinternals will log all driver setup activities.

PonyProg (http://www.lancos.com/prog.html) was suggested on Afterdown.com forum to get firmware from a similar device's EEPROM chip, and possibly upload back standard firmware extracted from your LME driver. It does require serial adapter though (see the site). It can help to ID the device you get and its real manufacturer at the least, so you can get it fixed or replaced, or get working factory firmware from them. But it seems to be for hard core hobbyists, shipping device back is often easier. :)

I asked Prog of ProgDVB who supports the Q-Box.

He pointed me to the TBS Q-Box DVB-S USB Receiver.

I downloaded the manual and drivers from there.

When I opened files, they had the same software title $CHICAGO$

There is a driver for the AMD processor but not the Intel.

Requested driver from support@tbsdtv.com

You have a tuner, someone on the web called QQ. Its not Q-box (http://www.tbsdtv.com/english/product/QBox.html) made by TBS, as I see it. You can find string $CHICAGO$ in most .inf files.

Surprisingly enough, I've got a reply from LME guy Liny today:
"Can your contact your vendor to check the hardward ? If possible ,please send me the dirver from your cd ."

They seems to be getting involved in your case. :) Can you post the installer .exe file from CD here or elsewhere, and give download link here. They will try to find out from the driver, who made this thing. Better yet, they can easily dissect it from the tuner's EEPROM. But at times such "No name" vendors install generic firmware, playing cat and mouse game. :down

Well, I'm confused. The driver files on the cd are the same as from the LME website. Which you can download.



DVB-S USB PCTV Driver (http://www.leaguerme.com/English/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=62)



Maybe you should see if he will join this post like DVBWorld has done with their support people.

Well, if the driver is generic, there is little hope to ID the device by comparing drivers, but it can possibly be done by copying its firmware from EEPROM. :)

I don't think, LME wants to join this thread. They designed reference DVB-S tuner PCBs with their own USB chip used, developed generic drivers, and that was extent of it. Any manufacturer was free to buy their chip from a dealer, and implement their reference tuner design with some changes to hardware and firmware. Same way NVIDIA offers a reference board design with their Graphics processors and drivers, and others start modding it.

It looks like this topic is exhausted. :)

Unless you have one of those "built for Vista only" laptops ( I have one like that):mad:

Boot to DOS.
Type format C:
enter

Boot to an XP + slipstreamed SP3 CD
type setup.exe
enter

Screw Vista.
Seven doesnt seem much better.

Unless you have one of those "built for Vista only" laptops ( I have one like that):mad:

Boot to DOS.
Type format C:
enter

Boot to an XP + slipstreamed SP3 CD
type setup.exe
enter

Screw Vista.
Seven doesnt seem much better.

Ahmen!!

What was it all about? :D

What was it all about? :D

VISTA? That's a damn good question. As far as I can tell M$ goal was to flood the market with yet another buggy halfbaked OS that is non compliant with existing HW save the 4GHZ duocore/4GB ram/4Tb systems available today and use a third of those resources for overhead. If they dont do that how else will they squeeze a few more bizillion dollars out of Joe consumer?

Wasnt the OP looking for Vista support for his card that was already supported in XP but Vista didnt acknowledge it? That was just my solution to "repairing" the actual problem with his lappy.

As most know you really dont have to boot to dos to solve your Windoze problems these days, but that was the canned response solution to recurring M$ problems on the pre NTFS based versions.

XP has finally proven itself as a somewhat stable and relatively efficient and safe OS. It should be by now. It has more patches than the quilt my grandma made for me 50+ years ago.
So, point being WE dont need Vista, but M$ needs us to need it, and toss out all your XP compliant (and supported) HW and start over.

Allow me to re-iterate...Screw Vista.

The new venture is Seven, which has abandoned XP (no direct upgrade path, mistake one) BUT recognizes XP's value in that the Pro version is supposed to have an XP mode, allowing for XP backward compatability. So Xp is recognized as a staple OS, IF you spring for the Pro version of Seven, but not good enough to offer long time users and supporters of XP an economical upgrade path. Good one M$.
It still has the basic GUI and "feel" of Vista, and in typical M$ style treats it's patrons as morons going to great lengths to obscure tech/maintenance level OS functions. Finding and enabling the "Classic" gui mode helps, but it's still not the same.
It is supposed to be 'lighter' than Vista in that the resource utilization are supposed to be comparable to XP (although in stock configuration XP can be quite a resource hog as well) All this is supposed to mean it will run (efficiently?) on systems that can currently run XP w/o issue.
Guess we will have to wait and see on that one.

Did I answer your question?

Well, that's an interesting angle to it. Except LME posted Vista / XP driver installer for this device, and the driver was installed OK in Vista. Vista wouldn't accept the driver? It may be because the device firmware ID'd it differently, or it simply malfunctions. It makes sense to check of course, if it will work in Win XP SP3. But OP might not have access to such PC, and for his tasks scope or software choice Vista might be OK. Who knows, it may also be a laptop use at home and for a job, where such changes can't be done. Good suggestion though.

Just imaging, its one of those lonely nights, when you can switch the radar off, put the gun down, a mobile dish on the roof, and relax in your CVPI with a cup of coffee, watching the last episode of "L.A. Gang Unit" on Ion with your lovely DVB-S Tuner. If only it works... I can attach to that. :)

Yes, unfortunately there are a number of reasons one would get "stuck" and have to make do. I bought a lappy about the time Vista came into full swing thinking if I didnt like it I could always drop back to XP........but, Not so fast Homer. This board was "optimized" for Vista and there were never any MB/integrated HW OEM XP drivers written for it, so I have a "crappy lappy" as I tend to call it, when I feel patient enough to try to use it. It spends much of the time alone and undisturbed it's bag. If I ever look for and find sufficient Linux support for it, it will be stripped and have a fresh install of VMWare or VPC on top on Linux for my preferred Windoze viewing pleasure.
I may try Seven on it but I'm not holding my breath for a happy ending. I've not even looked into my upgrade option (if any) from Vista Home Basic.

If I get it to play nice I may spring for one of the usb based S2 capable boxes. Got any favorites in that catagory, or more importantly, ones to avoid?

Its a good idea to start a new thread on Sat Card jams and lemons. Hope, more people in NA will be inclined nowadays to switch from "Easy button, no fan" Sat STB and share their 1-st time Sat Card experience in that thread. Talking about European consumer surveys & best sat card voting forum threads, Technotrend (http://www.tt-pc.com/2762/PRODUCTS_for_PC.html) brand often runs ahead 3-to-1 compare to any other brand, but they're usually priced to kill too. Despite these designed in Germany cards are also made in CN, except packaging carton and the CD. As far as I'm concerned, if the card model I picked locks everything it claims in its spec in a targeted signal range, works well with common DVB Apps, runs cool and reliable, plus its cheap and can be installed in quantities, that's the best brand for me at the moment, regardless where it's designed or made. However, there are common perceptions about it, and its hard to say, what's still true and what's about how things were in the past.

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Just imaging, its one of those lonely nights, when you can switch the radar off, put the gun down, a mobile dish on the roof, and relax in your CVPI with a cup of coffee, watching the last episode of "L.A. Gang Unit" on Ion with your lovely DVB-S Tuner. If only it works... I can attach to that. :)


BUSTED!

Just kidding. :)
Btw, I don't know your setup, but it might help to update to Vista SP2 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a4dd31d5-f907-4406-9012-a5c3199ea2b3&displaylang=en), and also add mentioned on the web Vista WMC TV Pack 2008, plus its latest update (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/966315).
If you at times have to use a USB Sat Tuner in a mobile environment, SatFastfinder (http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-pc-dvb-discussion/192780-picking-your-dish-sat-pc-tuner.html) can help to align the dish fast and easy without a compass.

LME has sent me the Schematic for this product.

Good reason for it not to work, NO EEPROM!

It uses a 24C02 which is available form www.mouser.com (http://www.mouser.com) but without the programmer and firmware, this is the end of project.

Here are the documents for QQ Box USB DVB-S Receiver.

This is the Data Sheet for FM24C02U/03U (http://willem.engen.nl/projects/DC5xx/FM24C03U.pdf) EEPROM. Why don't you use the utility PonyProg or ask Fairchild Semiconductor for a utility to read EEPROM. It looks like LME is in fact this box's (http://www.leaguerme.com/English/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=56) manufacturer, so why don't ask them, how to update the device firmware in your case? Or, may be they'll ship you a new one for free as a reward for actively promoting their product in NA via this thread? :)

Found this 24C02 Programmer on eBay.

Hope that they will send me a chip already programmed.

Zamar23- Like your new Avitar.

I support your previous idea though. Why don't give their manager a link to this thread, so they can explain here, how to use their device, and who's their NA dealer to deal with for warranty or device replacement. I know its sold on EBay, but its price attracts a lot of people, so they have to accept responsibility not only for profit sharing, but also for service to those who pay dues.

This is the EEPROM programmer for the 24C02 and a laptop PC.

To be used with Pony Prog software and the LME firmware.

"The E2PROM is not necessory, it just for separating customer product ID.

If the voltage around LME2510C and clock is normal, please change other computer or WinXP system to test if the USB TV box is good.

Because we can't see the phenomenon what you are faciing, so we can't provide more good solution. if it is possible, Please mail your TV Box to our company and we will test and repair it. But it maybe cost much post fee."

This is the reply I received from LME.

There is a 12Mhz crystal for the LME2510C so I will replace that and see what happens.

May be you can finally suggest them, how to design the receiver? :)
If they don't listen, aren't they supposed to send you a prepaid flat rate box for this to go in and out?

LME has been very good in customer support. With the length of time round trip via post office is too slow.

They have this link as you suggested.

I have had fun trying to get this operating. I am hopeful that it is the 12mhz crystal which I ordered from Mouser today. If that is not the problem, then it has to be the LME2510C. I don't think they will send me one of those.

It would be nice if they sent me a tested circuit board, I don't need the metal housing. But I don't think they make these anymore.

Someone has to make this stuff, its all over EBay. They should possibly know who, or it can be derived from the EEPROM product ID.

LME has sent me a software tool to run before connecting the receiver and then start a log file and connect the receiver. When I send them the file they will be able to see what is wrong.

They also will be able to do a remote access to my PC.

Its seems to be a remarkable progress with this company learning curve of the effect of SatelliteGuys' fans opinion on their success in NA. Collectively we can help finalize their product design and possibly bring it to local market. It's a nice looking cheapy box after all. Are they offering some perks for such effort? :)

The Saga continues-

Received new 12MHZ crystal and installed.

Old Crystal was bad.

Now have lnbf voltages and Lock and Power LED are on.

Ran Debug and it reports failed USBDriver install.

Windows Vista reports Unknown USB Device.

Re installed all software, no joy.

Reported results to LME, waiting for reply.

I guess, now its time for them to connect to your PC remotely. And may be they can remotely test and replace their USB chip as well? I've seen such reports about surgery remotely performed by a robot. Not a bad idea for their customer support. :rolleyes:

I have asked them to send me a lmeUSB.dll that they know works. Their software just does not set the correct operating conditions for the USB port. They are reluctant to believe their software is bad.

In Debug it shows the USB as being set and then released within a few hundreths of a second.

I give this about a 10% chance of ever getting this running.

There is no USB chip, everything is in the VLSI LME2510C.

This is the integrated USB chip. If they are reluctant to believe, why don't connect remotely to your PC, as they offered? It's taking so much effort to revive and make this device work that only a few users will be able or willing to go that route, but its also an interesting challenge for a serious FTA hobbyist, and the results may help LME to design a new better reference or production run DVB-S tuner. :up

Vista 32 does not recognize the driver.

LME tech support-

I almost can give a conclusion for your problem.
You checked the voltage around LME2510C and it is good. and picture shows that the VID_0000 and PID_0000, it means taht the LME2510C doesn't work.

Please check the voltage of Pin18 (RESET) during you plug in the USB TV BOX, normally it should be 0V after a short time 3.3V. but maybe it is difficult for you to test it, because it only can be captured by oscillograph. if you don't have the oscillograph. you can directly change C314 and R310 and check again to see if the TV BOX works. if you did all and it doesn't work yet, there is only one result: LME2510C is broken. and I will send you some good LME2510C , you can replace it yourself and I think the problem should be solved.

OP- note you find this by clicking on "Unknown USB Device" and following path to "Device Instance Path"

Seems strange to have bad Xtal and uP on same board.

I wonder if after replacing ALL chips on this famous QQ board their tuner will start finally working? And if it'll be able to lock any signal after that? It may be too early in the game to predict happy ending just yet. :)

Removed LME2510C from PCB, waiting for new part.

There is a wealth of Customer Support information for the QQ Box here in this thread.

At the cost of $39 and free shipping, I hope someone here buys one and reports in this thread their experience. It's a neat little receiver and when I get it working I would buy their DVB-S2 when it becomes available.

Received replacement LME2510C.
Installed and booted PC.
Windows reports LME Device Driver Sucessfully Installed!
That never happened before.
Booted BlazeVideo.
"Would you like to scan channels?"
Yes.
Setup lnbf, switches and satellite works good.
Signal Strength and Signal Quality meters work good.
PBS HDTV channels work good, Codec is smooth and fast.
PVR function works good.

I'm happy :D

What I found:

12Mhz xtal bad ( probably original production problem )
Original LME2510C had been replaced and foil was damaged.
Unfortunately I had to destroy a perfectly good chip to replace it.
Some how it got through QC, must have been a Friday :eek:

This may have been a one in a thousand instance.

This makes it really handi for setting up dishes. Just take my laptop, this tiny little device and extension cord to the dish.

Congrats! Can you show some Blaze pics with scanned channels, a TV Show on the screen, and this tuner model clearly ID'd by the Viewer? :)

Btw, would you consider becoming a dealer for this vendor: solid profit is predictable from selling this great device!? And you already established a good rapport with the company... I know some companies setup shops here to re-solder defective chips, so it should be no problem. :up

Congrats! Can you show some Blaze pics with scanned channels, a TV Show on the screen, and this tuner model clearly ID'd by the Viewer? :)

Btw, would you consider becoming a dealer for this vendor: solid profit is predictable from selling this great device!? And you already established a good rapport with the company... I know some companies setup shops here to re-solder defective chips, so it should be no problem. :up

I'll try to take it step by step to document with screen shots.

First pic. is notification in windows that driver is installed. The receiver is connected to the PC but not powered up.
Second Pic. Boot BlazeVideo with power applied to receiver. USB powers LME2510C, Power cube powers motor and lnbf.
Third Pic. Select Satellite to scan.
Fourth Pic. Receiver is scanning.
The BlazeVideo software has simple edit functions to add,delete or change Satellites or Transponders. I had to add RTV.

I tested the receiver with ProgDVB (current version)and it works good.
With DVB Dream it works the best. when you boot DVB Dream it automatically selects the LME driver. It's like the two were made for each other.
Both programs find the current driver LME.......7395 version 2.0.1 and load while ignoring the older LMEDVBS.DLL driver.


1- if Unknown USB error message, it is most likely the crystal or the tuner, the uP is the more reliable.
2- if low signal check the LNBF voltage while scanning. If it does not shift between 14 and 18 volts, the tuner is most likely bad.
3- if red lock led is on always, its a bad tuner.

The QQ Box doesn't do H-H motors. No drivers and hardware does not allow.

The latest version of QQ Box on eBay does not work in Windows Vista according to vendor.

Hi,

I have a LME USB 2.0 DVB-S tuner with the reference: SHARP0194

It just run great on XP, Vista & Seven with ProgDVB... but with DreamDVB it doesn't work perfectly...

Almost all channels don't work... the LED turns off when I select a frequency above 1100000khz or so...

Please help me to find a working driver for DVBdream and also Windows Media Cener (it supports DVB-S now)!

Also I would like to know how to create a driver for this tuner... so I/we can enhence the tuner's drivers...
Thanks!

ThisisZAK-

I sent you a private message check your CP.

Welcome to the site!

Please post any progress you make here.

I have a different tuner and software then you have. Sharp 0288 driver.

Here are pics. of QQ Box operating with BlazeVideo, ProgDVB and DVBDream.

Warning- There is a flood of these things on eBay all called QQ Box. I found a T-3, T-4, B392, 5392, all look identical but the T-4 works in Windows XP, The T-3 Works in Vista. All claim to do DISEqC 1.2 but they don't.

Re: [linux-dvb] QQ box dvb-s usb dongle not suppor: msg#00049 linux-media (http://osdir.com/ml/linux-media/2009-01/msg00049.html)

Link has some helpful information about Linux driver development for the LME2510C.

How to reset the box in W-Vista-

1- Close any applications running.
2- Remove Power.
3- Remove USB.
4- Apply power.
5- Apply USB.

DVB Dream works the best for me and has the advantage of a large screen display of Signal Strength or Signal Quality with option for audible level announce.

BlazeVideo is nice in the scan mode it previews the TV and Radio channels while scanning. However, for a satellite with over a hundred channels it likely will hang and not save scanned channels.

This should help in getting a QQ Box set up. It is a step by step installation and trouble shooting guide.

I see you pretty much fall in love with this QQ baby - just like in old RTV movie. It looks like they finally sent you the best version out there. :)

I see you pretty much fall in love with this QQ baby - just like in old RTV movie. It looks like they finally sent you the best version out there. :)

Very useful tool. Much less expensive then a commercial satellite meter. It's ideal for me to take out to set up a dish. In addition I watch HDTV on my laptop.

Hope someone takes the Linux information and makes a driver for Umbutu.

Here is the QQ Box ProgDVB Manual from another site.

RTV at last:D

Accurate way to peak your dish.

Hi,

I received mine QQ-BOX from ebay today installed new driver MVB7395_SHARP7395_20090317_x86_x64.zip work fine with blazedtv but I don' have luck to put this working in dvbdream I follow manual to run in dvbdream but I only get device offline in dvbdream (hardware initialization error: 12), last month I tested pci from prof-tuners and get same message hardware initialization error: 12 after installed bda.reg in windows registry this device working fine with dvbdream, have any bda.reg for QQ-BOX or maybe another driver to work in dvbdream ?

thanks

edit: I forget to mention I am using Windows XP SP3

Hi,

I received mine QQ-BOX from ebay today installed new driver MVB7395_SHARP7395_20090317_x86_x64.zip work fine with blazedtv but I don' have luck to put this working in dvbdream I follow manual to run in dvbdream but I only get device offline in dvbdream (hardware initialization error: 12), last month I tested pci from prof-tuners and get same message hardware initialization error: 12 after installed bda.reg in windows registry this device working fine with dvbdream, have any bda.reg for QQ-BOX or maybe another driver to work in dvbdream ?

thanks

edit: I forget to mention I am using Windows XP SP3

It is most likely an issue with Windows XP Sp3. The driver should work.
When you launch DVB Dream is the Sharp Driver shown at the top window line?

The sequence in which you launch the QQ Box is very important as they all seem to have an issue with "Reset".

BlazeVideo will not scan more then 100 or so channels without a crash. Best to remove this software from your PC. Delete all driver files. Load a new copy of DVB Dream.

launch pc then plug in USB then power and launch DVB Dream. You should hear the windows USB confirmation tone when you plug in. If not then Standard Enhanced USB PCI driver is not installed. See the Picture attached.

The DVB World Manual states that you must install a USB_PCI.device to open the USB port. This is available at windows download.

Thanks for reply.
When launched dvbdream only display at top Device Offline! but if I check Options -> Device I see bda version 2.0.0 (dvbdream v1.4i) or bda version 2.4.0 (dvbdream beta 1.5 beta 7) and at bottom have LME_PCTV_DVBS_SHARP0288 when I select bda and click in Start got message again (hardware initialization error: 12) Device Offline. I do many resets without success so I decided do a fresh install windows XP again and got same message (hardware initialization error: 12) in dvbdream beta and stable version, with last progdvb I can do manually scan without display signal/quality levels but can see channels, so I downloaded Windows 7 evaluation copy build 7100 and like magic dvdream worked fine when I follow you instructions but I want to using this device in windows XP.
I need to install Windows XP again and check if have USB_PCI.device.
Thanks

Thanks for reply.
When launched dvbdream only display at top Device Offline! but if I check Options -> Device I see bda version 2.0.0 (dvbdream v1.4i) or bda version 2.4.0 (dvbdream beta 1.5 beta 7) and at bottom have LME_PCTV_DVBS_SHARP0288 when I select bda and click in Start got message again (hardware initialization error: 12) Device Offline. I do many resets without success so I decided do a fresh install windows XP again and got same message (hardware initialization error: 12) in dvbdream beta and stable version, with last progdvb I can do manually scan without display signal/quality levels but can see channels, so I downloaded Windows 7 evaluation copy build 7100 and like magic dvdream worked fine when I follow you instructions but I want to using this device in windows XP.
I need to install Windows XP again and check if have USB_PCI.device.
Thanks

Well, that is good news.

Windows 7 is something I had not tried, that is welcome information.

Yes, the correct file name is Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller. Check in Device Manager to see if is listed.

Hi,
I installed XP again and have same message in dvbdream (Cannot Initialize DVB Hardware! ErrorCode: 12 Application will work in Offline Mode)
So I checked Device Manager and don't have Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller and I can't find this driver and searched more about this I think this are only information about usb 2.0 capable ports I have in Device Manager "Intel 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller" I think this match with information below:
How can I tell if I have USB 2.0? (http://ask-leo.com/how_can_i_tell_if_i_have_usb_20.html)
I don't think problem are this driver because QQBox running fine in Progdvb, Dvbviewer,BlazeDTV, only in dvbdream have message error, in Windows 7 don't have Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller and Dvbdream worked fine, I think about bda.reg (I have with prof-tuner device same problem after load bda.reg dvbdream worked fine) maybe some registry lines make dvbdream work with this device, I tried to change bda.reg with QQBox information without success so far.
Do you know anyone who have QQBox running in XP and dvbdream ?
(sorry for bad english)

Thanks

I agree, it is related to DVB Dream. Go to the "help" icon and get Authors eMail address and see if he can give you solution.

Are you running XP on a laptop?

Your English is effective, that is all that counts.

I have a problem with DVB Dream on my VISTA laptop. Sometimes it will not display video or produce audio. When this happens I boot ProgDVB and tune the channel and then close ProgDVB and reopen DVB Dream. Often times I will get it to work that way.

I have noticed that once I get DVB Dream working it is best not to use other programs that use these codecs.

It seems that DVB Dream, for no particular reason will start to work.

Are you able to run AltDVB with your QQ Box? I'm not having any luck. I would like to get it running to get the DISEqC codes to plug into DVB Dream to run a motor.

You must go to windows download section with a pc running XP to download the driver, Don't think you need it now.

But then ProgDVB suffers from really bad crashes that require pc reboot.

Hi,

I will try DD support.

I am running QQBox in my old pc and have tested too in netbook Asus 1005HA-H with XP.

I have problem with ProgDVB after some time with audio syncronization, just retune channel work fine again.

I downloaded AltDVB StarEdition III for testing purpose worked fine without issues just selected bda2 driver, running in XP SP3, scan and watch ok, I don't have DiSEqC here, but I have Warning message when I try to open DiSEqC Console in AltDVB, " Raw DiSEqC is not supported by driver/hardware".

I downloaded AltDVB StarEdition III for testing purpose worked fine without issues just selected bda2 driver, running in XP SP3, scan and watch ok, I don't have DiSEqC here, but I have Warning message when I try to open DiSEqC Console in AltDVB, " Raw DiSEqC is not supported by driver/hardware".

I booted DVB Dream in Vista without the USB cable and get the same error code you get. Leads me to believe that you are missing that Standard Enhanced USB to PCI file. If you go to Windows download do a search for it. But I thought it had been added into SP3.

Thanks for the info about AltDVB, I have an older version, I'll try the new Star Edition. Do you have a link as to where you downloaded it? Can you upload the zip file to www.download.com (http://www.download.com)?

If you got that message "Raw DISEqC" then this QQ Box will not support DISEqC 1.2 as advertised. :rant:

I added a section on dish setup.

The QQ Box is not compatable with a Dish Network LNBF.