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11-18-2009, 03:51 PM
SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 11/18/2009 3:51pm - 47 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 11/18/2009 03:30P - 11/18/2009 03:50P

Channel Additions:
7503(29) - KHOG [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 23 Spotbeam 20 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB20.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)(Fayetteville, AR-ABC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Fayetteville, AR))
8538(9) - KUSG [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 23 Spotbeam 34 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB34.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)(St. George, UT-CBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St. George, UT))
218 - VERIA [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
218 - VERIA [MPEG4 SD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 31 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
220 - MERC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
292 - EPIX [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 09 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
292 - EPIX [MPEG4 SD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
785 - VKAIR [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
786 - PEOPL [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
947(91) - AUD20 [MPEG AUDIO] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 21 ConUS beam (A)
949(97) - MUZK2 [MPEG AUDIO] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 21 ConUS beam (A)
5745 - IAD14 [DATA] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
5745 - IAD14 [DATA] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
6155 - LTD18 [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 06 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
6801 - UPSD [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
6802 - UP2 [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 18 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
6803 - UP3 [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 21 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
8398(16) - KOSAD [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 12 Spotbeam 27 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB27.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
9589 - LTD9 [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 25 ConUS beam (NA)

Channel Removals:
5109 - KDNL (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(St.louis, MO-ABC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St.louis, MO))
5110 - KMOV (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(St.louis, MO-CBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St.louis, MO))
5111 - KSDK (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 18 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(St.louis, MO-NBC (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St.louis, MO))
5112 - KTVI (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 18 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(St.louis, MO-FOX (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St.louis, MO))
6457 - KPLR (A) (H) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 21 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)(St.louis, MO-CW (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=St.louis, MO))
218 - MERC (A) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
233 - NOTAX (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
573 - NBALP (A) (H) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 06 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
573 - NBALP (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 25 ConUS beam
9578 - LTD10 (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 09 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)

Channel Moves:
125 - ITV2 [MPEG4 SD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 10 ConUS beam to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
19215 - HUNTT [DATA] moved from EchoStar11 110W TP 09 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) to EchoStar11 110W TP 14 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
19216 - HUNTV [DATA] moved from EchoStar11 110W TP 09 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) to EchoStar11 110W TP 14 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
5274(38) - WNOL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 10 Spotbeam 50 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_SB50.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)(New Orleans, LA-CW (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=New Orleans, LA))
125 - ITV2 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available
617 - ZCINE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
703 - FTVTW [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)
790 - ZCINE [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 27 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
803 - UDAYA [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 17 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
947(91) - AUD20 [MPEG AUDIO] - EchoStar7 119W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
949(97) - MUZK2 [MPEG AUDIO] - EchoStar7 119W TP 12 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
4327 - SPIKE [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 07 Spotbeam 1 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_SB1.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
4391 - SPIKE [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 04 Spotbeam 55 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_SB55.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
6525(19) - WZMQ [MPEG2 SD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 12 Spotbeam 15 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_SB15.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)

Channel Mapdown Changes:
6003 - SIRI EchoStar7 119W TP 04 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 93 added (A)
6003 - SIRI Nimiq5 72.7W TP 05 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 93 added (A)
6004 - SIRI EchoStar7 119W TP 21 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 94 added (A)
6004 - SIRI Nimiq5 72.7W TP 15 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 94 added (A)

Channels in the system: 6636
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 04:00 PM
EPIX is uplinked!

space86
11-18-2009, 04:02 PM
EPIX is uplinked!

Is EPIX also uplinked in HD I could not see?

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Looks like only SD for now.

Scott Greczkowski
11-18-2009, 04:07 PM
Yes EPIX HD is uplinked, it is on TMP65 which is on channel 4835 which is coming off of both 129 and 61.5.

The reason its not listed in the uplink is because the channel was already uplinked with the TMP65 name. :)

cubsfan34
11-18-2009, 04:07 PM
Anyone heard anything about Quad Cities HD Locals?

I know they were delayed (when they were supposed to go live last week), but just curious if anyone knows why, or WHEN?

kvnfl
11-18-2009, 04:07 PM
Is EPIX also uplinked in HD I could not see?
SD, only - so far. Hopefully another uplink will occur today.

cosmo_kramer
11-18-2009, 04:08 PM
Probably one of the much ballyhooed TMP channels.

Scott Greczkowski
11-18-2009, 04:09 PM
Epix even has guide data, The Golden Child is on now follow by Iron Man.

digiblur
11-18-2009, 04:11 PM
CW HD in NOLA....nice!

Kirby Baker
11-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Another uplink coming today to turn on Epix then? :)

OrlandoSGM
11-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Epix even has guide data, The Golden Child is on now follow by Iron Man.

Scott that mean it's on air????

Scott Greczkowski
11-18-2009, 04:15 PM
Scott that mean it's on air????
Sort off.

It appears that the SD and HD channels now have data on them. So its on the air for the Dish techs at the uplink.

However at this time it is not available to customers. We dont know when (or ven if) it will be turned on to customers.

There have been times in the past a channel was uplinked but was never made available to customers and later (sometimes month later) was removed form the uplink.

So we are close... how close is the question.

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 04:18 PM
Any info on what package EPIX will be in?

digiblur
11-18-2009, 04:18 PM
Sounds like Epix all depends on one thing....the signature on the contract.

rajmarie
11-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Any info on what package EPIX will be in?

Same question here since I have only SD receiver.....I can get that channel...& will be great to have in 1 of the package preferably 200 or 250

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 04:25 PM
I figure if it was in Platinum it would be in the 300s channel range so maybe Classic Gold 250 instead.

I have 250 and wouldn't mind having another movie channel to go along with TMC and Encore channels.

ryotgz
11-18-2009, 04:38 PM
Hoping another uplink comes along to turn on Evansville local HD

HDRoberts
11-18-2009, 04:41 PM
Odd Epix is is on 292, around ... nothing. The PPV guide and Reelz are the only other channels up there until you get to premiums.

AKGolf
11-18-2009, 04:41 PM
I'd like to see them turn on the Fox Anchorage HD that was uplinked a while back.

Scott Greczkowski
11-18-2009, 04:48 PM
While I am hoping for another uplink for today, I am also hoping there is not another uplink today.

My 6 year old son did something and now internet is not working at my house...

I will be leaving work for home in about 15 minutes. :)

Hope there is no uplink between now and then. :D

r424chevy48II
11-18-2009, 04:49 PM
How about ESPNU HD CHARLIE??????????? really getting old CHUCKLES???????????

B_Kranski
11-18-2009, 05:09 PM
I personally thought when they got the new bird in the air there was going to be more additions, but they sure are taking there time. probley saving everything for febuary when they raise the rates.

redsalmon
11-18-2009, 05:10 PM
I'd like to see them turn on the Fox Anchorage HD that was uplinked a while back.

Plus one on that!!! Add NBC too which has been uplinked since Jun of 07!

dreddick
11-18-2009, 05:12 PM
I personally thought when they got the new bird in the air there was going to be more additions, but they sure are taking there time. probley saving everything for febuary when they raise the rates.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

Poke
11-18-2009, 05:13 PM
Hmm never heard of EpixHD.. Is this a new channel or has it been around awhile??

EpixHD - Big On Any Screen (http://www.epixhd.com/)

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 05:16 PM
It's new... it launched on October 30th.

arty100
11-18-2009, 05:34 PM
What package do you need to get epix?


Thanks

digiblur
11-18-2009, 05:36 PM
What package do you need to get epix?


Thanks

Right now you need an engineering package. When it is launched to customers? No one knows yet...

TravelFan1
11-18-2009, 05:39 PM
Yes EPIX HD is uplinked, it is on TMP65 which is on channel 4835 which is coming off of both 129 and 61.5.

The reason its not listed in the uplink is because the channel was already uplinked with the TMP65 name. :)
what about the other TMP HD channels Scott, can you share with us what HD channels are uplinked on them?

Scott Greczkowski
11-18-2009, 05:47 PM
what about the other TMP HD channels Scott, can you share with us what HD channels are uplinked on them? That I dont know. I can only go by what my contacts tell me. The channels are scrambled and I cant see them.

space86
11-18-2009, 05:56 PM
EPIX page on Wikipedia lists EPIX on Dish Network channel 292
did someone who works at EPIX change the Wikipedia page?

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 06:01 PM
EPIX page on Wikipedia lists EPIX on Dish Network channel 292
did someone who works at EPIX change the Wikipedia page?
Actually, I got a little excited about it being uplinked so I went ahead and edited that page since I have an account with wikipedia.

I felt since it's coming to DISH sooner or later, I might as well update it.

--sexy-warlock--
11-18-2009, 06:05 PM
I just edited it to say it is available as a $15.99 premium package...

j/k :p

lineman20109
11-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Hopefully that doesn't tick anyone off at the corporate level and everyone backs out of contract negotiations leaving Dish without Epix.

bkimbler
11-18-2009, 06:16 PM
Wikipedia does say this...

"The single channel was available to Verizon FiOS subscribers for free for the channel's debut weekend with a monthly subscription to the channel costing $9.99 per month [11](in comparison, a subscription to multi-channel services such as HBO costs $14.99 a month, while Cinemax, Showtime and Starz each cost $12.99)."

While Dish does not have to offer it as a premium, it appears that Epix parents want to make more than $.25 per sub.

Then I found this in a USA Today article from March...

"Greenberg wants operators to include Epix in their packages of digital, movie or HD channels — it wouldn't appear as a separate charge on customers' bills the way premium services usually do. He'll sweeten the deal by making the channel's movies and shows available to their video-on-demand services.

He's asking companies to pay $1.50 a month for every subscriber who can see Epix. That's about 50 cents more than operators typically pay for ad-supported basic channels such as TNT, but far less than they provide to sports services such as ESPN, which costs about $3.65."

So we can all agree I have no idea what I am talking about.

dennispap
11-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Well 1 channel for 10.00 per month doesnt sound like they will have a lot of subs

GordonR
11-18-2009, 06:47 PM
When I went to this channel it says stay tuned for a new interactive experience.

Anyone have any ideas???

simplexswrhs90
11-18-2009, 06:49 PM
It's just like channel 99 - just another interactive ad channel.

Channel 99 is showing PPV previews as well as an interactive icon that says "Press SELECT to order tickets".

It's pretty cool. Previews for the movie "2012" is showing.

socalpanman
11-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Makes me long for the Voom days again. F channel, Peladia still nothing compared to Vooms. Now Epix and charging more for less? Hmmmm.. where's the excitement in this?

space86
11-18-2009, 07:22 PM
Makes me long for the Voom days again. F channel, Peladia still nothing compared to Vooms. Now Epix and charging more for less? Hmmmm.. where's the excitement in this?

I liked watching Monsters HD every Halloween.

am7crew
11-18-2009, 09:23 PM
Hopefully they are taking your advice Scott and capitalizing on being the HD movie channel leader! I know I for one hope so.

rthomp03
11-18-2009, 10:50 PM
How about ESPNU HD CHARLIE??????????? really getting old CHUCKLES???????????

Here, here! :up

Stargazer
11-19-2009, 01:15 AM
I am paying enough for TV and I am not going to pay more. If anything, I am looking to pay less, or at least keep it the same. I think I am paying too much now because of all of the "nickel and diming".

Fitzie
11-19-2009, 05:20 AM
Unless Epix offers something more than movies 9 to 36 months after they are released, what good is it really? There are already plenty of movie channels which do that--what particular benefit accrues from one more?

Fitzie

--sexy-warlock--
11-19-2009, 06:19 AM
The only thing going for it is they took a stranglehold on movies from their affiliates. Other than that it will not be worth it if they charge a premium price for a premium set with only one channel, and no special series to pad it.

MikeD-C05
11-19-2009, 06:59 AM
It should be included in the top 250 with NO price increase at all. Otherwise I don't see many people subbing to it. Premium prices are too high and going up every year or two. Who would think that anyone would be paying $15.99 a month for HBO ? I can remember when all premiums were $9.99 a month. If it weren't for original tv series like True Blood, I would never sub to HBO at all. So charge $9.99 or more , a month for one channel for EPIX and see if they get many takers.

--sexy-warlock--
11-19-2009, 07:56 AM
If it weren't for bundling everything with AEP, I wouldn't have one single premium.

gjh3260
11-19-2009, 11:10 AM
Cinemax for a penny is what I pay and for as much as I watch it the price is about right. No other premiums here.

dmendenjr
11-19-2009, 11:18 AM
Unless Epix offers something more than movies 9 to 36 months after they are released, what good is it really? There are already plenty of movie channels which do that--what particular benefit accrues from one more?

Fitzie
The catch with Epix is that they are supposed to offer free online streaming of the same movies from their site and free access to on-demand content from their library with subscriptions to their premium service.. what makes me curious is exactly how dish will offer the on-demand side of Epix. Perhaps that is the hold up.....

mruk69
11-19-2009, 11:50 AM
Actually according to Epix if you are a subscriber, you can watch any movie on their site from anywhere.

space86
11-19-2009, 12:07 PM
The catch with Epix is that they are supposed to offer free online streaming of the same movies from their site and free access to on-demand content from their library with subscriptions to their premium service.. what makes me curious is exactly how dish will offer the on-demand side of Epix. Perhaps that is the hold up.....

My Dish Network VIP 722 HD DVR has Dish Interactive,
and it has Showtime Interactive and STARZ ON DEMAND
STARZ ON DEMAND has The International and Rachel Getting Married.

am7crew
11-19-2009, 08:44 PM
Ive had my 722k hooked up to the ethernet but how do u find starz ondemand? Is it just in the crazy long text list of content on DISHonline?

space86
11-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Ive had my 722k hooked up to the ethernet but how do u find starz ondemand? Is it just in the crazy long text list of content on DISHonline?

Go on your guide to Dish channel 100 and hit select button on your
remote or press the silver dish button below play on your remote.

You will go to a screen with 6 video screens scroll over to entertainment
on the bottom of your screen and select STARZ On Demand.

You can only watch the STARZ Movies On Demand if you subscribe to STARZ.

space86
11-20-2009, 12:36 PM
Sort off.

There have been times in the past a channel was uplinked but was never made available to customers and later (sometimes month later) was removed form the uplink.

So we are close... how close is the question.


I remember that Dish uplinked INHD later called MOJO HD
but never made it available.
The channel later went off the air for good.

SKrueger
11-20-2009, 12:48 PM
So there was a post in an old thread today by ShortyT and --sexy-warlock-

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/188572-new-hd-october-11.html

That indicates that BBC-HD is listed on Dish's commercial site channel 9450.
http://commercial.dishnetwork.com/programming/Default.aspx?chan=53197&section=45570

Anyone know if this channel is actually live and available to commercial customers? And why wouldn't it be available to consumer customers?

B_Kranski
01-16-2010, 12:19 PM
I personally thought when they got the new bird in the air there was going to be more additions, but they sure are taking there time. probley saving everything for febuary when they raise the rates.


Not so suprised by Dish handles there channel lineups. it is almost Febuary...and no new HD since November or before. so this quote looks right on.