Systems in this CE
HR20-100 • HR20-700
HR21-100 • HR21-200 • HR21-700
HR22-100 • R22-100 • R22-200
HR21Pro • HR23-700

Window of opportunity to download:
Friday, November 20, 2009 11:00PM - 2:30AM ET
Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:00PM - 2:30AMET




Risk Level for this Download: High Risk

New features

None for this release


Improved/Updated

Under the hood


Notes

No keyword required for Multi-Room-Video activation. Keyword "LOSEMRV" will disable and "BRINGMRVBACK" will re-enable, but only until reboot.
You will lose your guide cache when reverting from CE to national.
Please do not report sluggish issues within the first 12 hours of download
Previous History


New features

CE:21:01 (0x034D) - Left Menu appearance
CE:21:01 (0x034D) - Support for Linksys WET610N Wireless Adapter
CE:21:03 (0x353/0x354) - MRV is back!
CE:21:05 (0x035B) - New Playlist and Playlist sorting persistence
CE:21:05 (0x035B) - DIRECTV On DEMAND program detail screen facelift
CE:21:09 (0x036A) - MRV is back!
CE:21:10 (0x036F) - Unified Search
CE:21:10 (0x036F) - "Watch Now/Soon" from DIRECTV Cinema
CE:21:11 (0x0374) - Enriched Guide Data:


Similar Shows
Cast & Crew
GUIDE Artwork
Actor Filmography
Actor Awards
Star ratings for movies



CE:21:12 (0x0379) - Smart Search now includes suggestions!


Improved/Updated

CE:21:01 (0x034D) Very High Risk

Playlist touch ups
Prioritizer renamed "Series Manager"
"Rec. Once" and "Rec. Series" text now more user friendly in To Do List and Guide

In the TO DO LIST for upcoming recordings:

Rec. Once is now Episode Options
Rec. Series is now Series Options


In the TO DO LIST for programs currently recording:

Rec. Once... is now Recording...
Rec. Series... is now Series Options


In the GUIDE for non-series-link programs:

Rec. Once is now Record Once
Rec. Series is now Record Series




Under the hood


CE:21:02 (0x0350) Very High Risk


Under the hood


CE:21:03 (0x353/0x354) Very High Risk


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CE:21:04 (0x0356) Very High Risk


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CE:21:05 (0x035B) Very High Risk


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CE:21:06 (0x035F) SCARY HIGH RISK


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CE:21:07 (0x0364) Customer Candidate


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CE:21:08 (0x0368) Customer Candidate


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CE:21:09 (0x036A) Moderate Risk


Media Share Improvements
Under the hood


CE:21:10 (0x036F) Moderate Risk


Under the hood


CE:21:11 (0x0374) High Risk


Quasi under the hood
Playlist Sort Order: Alphabetical sorting of folders now chronological within folder


CE:21:12 (0x0379) Very High Risk


Under the hood

Quick Download

Quick Download

Not for the HR20-100,,, at 11:30pm I started the download and in 5 minutes now, I got nothing,,, still searching for new software. :confused:

It's never taken this long before.:rolleyes:

Cheers,
Robin

Stuck at the "Almost There Just A Few More Seconds Screen" after what I thought was a successful download. Joy. Resetting...

Quick Download

Took about 2 min but got it on my HR20-100

Not for the HR20-100,,, at 11:30pm I started the download and in 5 minutes now, I got nothing,,, still searching for new software. :confused:

It's never taken this long before.:rolleyes:

Cheers,
Robin

Did a soft reboot and 037E popped right up. Oh well if the 1st time you don't succeed,,,,, :cool:

Cheers,
Robin

Stuck at the "Almost There Just A Few More Seconds Screen" after what I thought was a successful download. Joy. Resetting...

Looks to be ok. Guess I'll go ahead and do the other receiver now.

HR20-700... about normal dl time I guess, letting it populate till the morning...

A little slow to find it on the HR20-700

So MRV is now enabled by Default

So MRV is now enabled by DefaultMine popped up with this before this CE last night...

The download is lasfing over 30 minutes...this is a problem, right?

OK, downloading now...

I noticed the "Miscellaneous Options" menu was missing after this CE download.

I had to do the "IAMANEDGECUTTER" keyword search to get it back.

Running very solid on the HR20's I have. I haven't tried MRV in about 4 weeks because a hard drive died in one of my units and i was waiting for a warranty replacement from Seagate. (1.5TB). Been watching an HD hockey game via MRV this morning and it has been flawless for almost 2 hours now.

The download is lasfing over 30 minutes...this is a problem, right?

Houston We have a problem!!! Yes :D

Got it last night, I was busy on friday.

After the download and restart, I found a show on one dvr that I'd deleted 3-4 days ago had reappeared. Interesting. Didnt scrutinize the other one yet, and its mostly got my wifes shows on it, but maybe she'll notice something she deleted that came back. Seen a few other people report this. Seems the last couple of weeks CE's had some problems with deleting the wrong shows or deleting them and they return after a reboot. This is my first reboot since last weeks CE, so maybe thats it.

Turned both units to standby before I went to bed, both showed the blue ring this morning so I presume that means that both rebooted overnight. Heard some other people also say that they're having spontaneous reboots.

Remote response is poor compared to last week so I guess the priority of the UI had to be dropped to give something else more cycles or something got mucked up.

Forewarning: if you're deleting shows from the playlist, go slow. Sometimes its taking a few seconds to display a delete and remove the show from the list and sometimes it jumps around in the playlist. Its quite easy to see a show highlighted, hit delete, then the highlight jumps to some other show and the delete happens. Or you delete a show, it takes 2-3 seconds to remove the show, you move a few spots and hit delete, then the playlist display jumps and its on a different show and the delete then happens.

One other thing I've noticed the last few weeks that I thought was interesting. In cases where I have the same show recording on both hr20-100's, the actual start time on both of them is never at the same point. Some are 10-15 seconds difference from the other identical recording. Apparently one gets busy and starts later than the other. Since they take their time from the satellite, both should be the same down to the second, although thats something I'll have to check. I can see a second or two, but in many cases its a LOT more than that.

I also noticed the slower deletes on UPL.

I've also been having a lot of ignored RF remote commands for CEs since NR x368 and most were on LR DVR. Last night, during this ignorance of no response, I shook the remote and it responded very good after that. The batteries are fresh but maybe low room temperatures were effecting it. I had a solid green light on remote and blue power light was responding to most presses but nothing was happening. Others have reported sluggish remote responses but mine had been completely ignored while others were stating that their bugs involved a delayed response like all seemingly ignored commands were executed after a lengthy delay.

This morning I got up and had no audio when streaming HD MRV from BR to LR; reran network services to get it back.

Now here's a strange one that I'll be watching for in the coming weeks. I've been having a lot of pixelations on HD MRV streams that stopping and restarting a MRV stream seems to help. Well it got so bad last night that I started getting a lot of pausing when returning to play from using FFW or stacking 30skips which I have not seen since using gigabit switch. I fought with this for awhile trying to avoid a RBR because I didn't think that would help with pixelations. I finally deleted the bookmarks on the show that was giving me a lot of pixelating and it cleared a good portion of them.

I was standing in front of my BR DVR with audio muted and LR loud enough that I could hear occasional audio breakups and just started going through my UPL in BR deleting every bookmark I had on both HDDs. When I started, I heard a lot of audible breakups. By the time I deleted the oldest ones which also happened to be the ones with multiple bookmarks, the audio in LR was more clear. And it seems that most pixelating that I still get recover quicker and don't penalize the audio so bad.

Somewhere during this time, the pausing during play coming out of trickplay cleared up. I didn't do any RBRs either.

I'd be interested to know if the users here that are happy with MRV performance are using bookmarks at all. And is there any difference between old and new bookmarks. I had one show that would pixelate on queue got a bit over zealous last night and deleted them all, rather than testing to see if maybe older bookmarks were my problem. And now since all seems improved a bit, I haven't any old bookmarks to test.

The recordings I noticed most improvement were recorded in early June, 2009 and July, but bookmarks were added in progression from and not sure of those sporadic dates.

Am I imagining the results or can someone verify this? I suppose that it could have been a random freak of nature as well shaking the remote coincidentally coincided with my DVR waking from a slumber.

Just describing what I saw...

I shook the remote and it responded very good after that. The batteries are fresh but maybe low room temperatures were effecting it.

Maybe it just decided it didnt want to be shaken anymore, and told the receiver to pay attention! ;)

I have lots of slow and dropped or double key responses when in RF or IR, actually seems worse in RF which seems counter-intuitive. You'd think RF would be more reliable than IR. But I've always had that, since 017F or whatever was on my 20's when I first got them. Some releases its better, some much better, but its always there. I've just gotten in the habit of hitting a button and then waiting a few seconds to see if it was going to 'get it'. or not.

I've had the splats in both local and MRV viewing the last few weeks. Had them in MRV all along although they seemed to be better last week. The local splats showed up last week, and they're usually accompanied by a nice audio crackle-pop that my tv mutes down because I have it set to clip off sudden loud sound changes. Others are reporting playback problems like this, both local and mrv.

After some testing last night, bi-directional MRV is still a no-go. Audio cuts in and out, video drops, etc when watching a kids animation from one receiver to another while watching monday night football in the other direction.

In looking into the tivo HD forums, where the tivo HD uses a similar cpu, chipset and network interface as the HR2x's, tivo users are seeing that the platform tops out at between 15 and 24Mb/s of total throughput. So its possible that each HR2x will only be able to handle one MRV/directv2pc stream in or out at a time, which probably explains why they limited the streaming to one stream. I'm guessing they might end up limiting to either one in or one out, but not both because it just doesnt work unless both streams are SD.

In my case, its two HR20-100's (which have somewhat faster parts vs the HR21/22/23) hardwired to a gigabit switch thats cascaded off my router. Just cant get any better/faster on the physical end of this.

Whats reallllly strange is in looking at the tivo folks results, there is also a pretty wide variance in what people reported for max throughput with the same tivo hardware...15-17 for some, 20 for others, 22-24 for others. My guess is that each of those had some very different things going on in the box, like more season passes, more wishlists, more guide data, more channels, etc.

Which means when the HR2x is doing more stuff than just sitting there spooning out an MRV stream, its total possible network throughput may drop. If it drops below ~15-17Mb/s, even a single HD MRV stream might start to glitch.

So I think I might have figured out why some people have glitchless MRV and some have it glitch so bad its unwatchable. Once physical network issues are resolved and removed from the equation, it may just be that some peoples demands on the box are higher than other users, and their MRV glitchiness is correlated to that extra work.

A user with 50 series links on both boxes, recording both tuners all the time (or even an extra OTA on the 20's), doing VOD, lots of guide data processing, searching for stuff, keyword autorecords, etc...vs someone with 10-15 series links that record once each a week and dont do much else.

My experience with disconnecting my receivers from the internet and just cabling one directly to the other improved MRV glitching and overall performance, so that fits in with the limited throughput/limited load theory.

one issue it takes too long to delete a saved program

I noticed that change a few CE's ago. I think they were having some problems with people deleting shows off of another dvr that someone else was still watching. I noticed it used to let you do that, the show would disappear, but whoever was watching it could continue to watch it to the end, then it'd be gone.

Now it gives you an error that someone else is watching it and you cant delete it.

So I think they're doing a little more handshaking on the deletes and its just waiting for the a-ok before its actually gone.

A couple of times when deleting I've had an error flash on the screen for about 1/2 second, something about not being able to complete the deletion, then it does delete it without problems.