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dfergie
11-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Systems in this CE
HR20-100 • HR20-700
HR21-100 • HR21-200 • HR21-700
HR22-100 • R22-100 • R22-200
HR21Pro • HR23-700

Window of opportunity to download:
Friday, November 27, 2009 11:00PM - 2:30AM ET
Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:00PM - 2:30AM ET



Risk Level for this Download: High Risk

New features

None for this release


Improved/Updated

Under the hood


Notes

No keyword required for Multi-Room-Video activation. Keyword "LOSEMRV" will disable and "BRINGMRVBACK" will re-enable, but only until reboot.
This CE will remove your guide cache if you did not download last week's CE. Please allow up to 24 hrs to restore your full 14 day guide.
You will lose your guide cache when reverting from CE to national.
Please do not report sluggish issues within the first 12 hours of download

dfergie
11-26-2009, 07:17 PM
Version History

New features

CE:21:01 (0x034D) - Left Menu appearance
CE:21:01 (0x034D) - Support for Linksys WET610N Wireless Adapter
CE:21:03 (0x353/0x354) - MRV is back!
CE:21:05 (0x035B) - New Playlist and Playlist sorting persistence
CE:21:05 (0x035B) - DIRECTV On DEMAND program detail screen facelift
CE:21:09 (0x036A) - MRV is back!
CE:21:10 (0x036F) - Unified Search
CE:21:10 (0x036F) - "Watch Now/Soon" from DIRECTV Cinema
CE:21:11 (0x0374) - Enriched Guide Data:



Similar Shows
Cast & Crew
GUIDE Artwork
Actor Filmography
Actor Awards
Star ratings for movies



CE:21:12 (0x0379) - Smart Search now includes suggestions!


Improved/Updated

CE:21:01 (0x034D) Very High Risk

Playlist touch ups
Prioritizer renamed "Series Manager"
"Rec. Once" and "Rec. Series" text now more user friendly in To Do List and Guide

In the TO DO LIST for upcoming recordings:

Rec. Once is now Episode Options
Rec. Series is now Series Options


In the TO DO LIST for programs currently recording:

Rec. Once... is now Recording...
Rec. Series... is now Series Options


In the GUIDE for non-series-link programs:

Rec. Once is now Record Once
Rec. Series is now Record Series




Under the hood


CE:21:02 (0x0350) Very High Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:03 (0x353/0x354) Very High Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:04 (0x0356) Very High Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:05 (0x035B) Very High Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:06 (0x035F) HIGH RISK



Under the hood


CE:21:07 (0x0364) Customer Candidate



Under the hood


CE:21:08 (0x0368) Customer Candidate



Under the hood


CE:21:09 (0x036A) Moderate Risk



Media Share Improvements
Under the hood


CE:21:10 (0x036F) Moderate Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:11 (0x0374) High Risk



Quasi under the hood
Playlist Sort Order: Alphabetical sorting of folders now chronological within folder


CE:21:12 (0x0379) Very High Risk



Under the hood


CE:21:13 (0x037E) High Risk



Under the hood
Must reenter IAMANEDGECUTTER keyword to get Misc Options

twizt3dkitty
11-27-2009, 11:03 PM
forcing download, so far i have 380....


0380 to my HR23-700

DJ Rob
11-28-2009, 01:39 AM
Downloading.
Got 380 here on my HR21-100's. Is this the new or an old firmware?
Got a message saying "formatting storage device" during bootup.
Now all recorded programs are gone.

twizt3dkitty
11-28-2009, 10:50 AM
not sure why it formatted for you ??? didnt do that for me, and yea 380 is new. I dont really see a whole lot of change. The only thing that has happened i think is a coincidence, I have my hddvr mirrored to a SD tv and i think my rf mod is dieing, im getting a sort of 'static line' on the top of the viewing area when the box is set to letterbox format.

DJ Rob
11-28-2009, 01:03 PM
It looks like a couple of others on the other site had their drives wiped because of this CE. They were using external drives though.

cocoon
11-28-2009, 04:30 PM
I have an esata drive on my HR20 nothing nothing was wiped though. I wouldn't be surprised if D* pulls tonights CE.

jcrandall
11-28-2009, 10:15 PM
I downloaded on two boxes and didn't have the drive formatted.

I feel sorry for those that did. In 2 years I've only had a drive formateed once during a CE download, and nobody else did, so I attributed it to some corruption on the drive.

I would be cautious of downloading Saturday night given those reports.

twizt3dkitty
11-28-2009, 11:26 PM
i dont understand what would be different from friday to saturday... or why it would wipe some users drives but not others....

dfergie
11-29-2009, 12:06 AM
I think Jason meant if you had "keeper stuff" on your HDD... :) I didn't get to DL this CE as was an am at work...

Hookem99
11-29-2009, 11:36 AM
I downloaded on 2 boxes, HR23 & HR21, on Saturday night. Neither did a reformat. I also downloaded on a H23 and everything is working great so far.

rrosley
11-29-2009, 12:28 PM
Downloaded version 0380 on 3 HR23 & 1 HR21, all went well no issues, MRV working flawlessly.

cfb
11-29-2009, 07:11 PM
i dont understand what would be different from friday to saturday... or why it would wipe some users drives but not others....

It'll format if it cant read a valid file system on the drive, but sees the drive operating without error. It presumes its a new blank disk, or that the old disk was so badly corrupted that it couldnt be recovered.

I suspect that in these cases that any reboot would have wiped the drive as there was some physical problem with the disk or a bad corruption. It just happened that the CE was the cause of the reboot. Not necessarily the cause of the format.

Correlation vs causation.

Back in the old tivo days, the tivo used two partitions on the drive for the system software. When new SW came out, it'd keep the running version and install the new one to the other partition, then on the new SW install it'd flip back. That way if something bad happened during the application of the new SW, it could just flip back to the old partition and reboot on the old SW and try again.

Sometimes however, it'd been a year or more between SW updates and the alternate partition had developed some bad sectors, but not enough to detect an error during the installation process. It'd apply, boot and run but stutter and spit out errors.

Thing is, people would blame these problems on the new SW when the new software was simply a correlation to the failure, not the cause.

Its also worth noting that as I've mentioned a number of times, some of these folks might just have been using a disk drive that wont keep up with the current CE's workload, or an enclosure with 'issues'. While directv only uses and recommends DVR/AV type drives that use special firmware to handle multiple read and write streams, many if not most people go cheap and buy non AV computer type hard drives. Those appear to have worked okay for most people but may explain why some folks have more problems than others with the newer CE's that are employing MRV, Directv2pc, the new search database, etc, etc, etc.

dtrose
11-29-2009, 08:53 PM
I downloaded and installed the 0380 version on both of my HR23-700 boxes yesterday without incident. Both are woking great.

Matt L
12-01-2009, 03:14 AM
Anyone having issues with stopples? I have a ton of stuff I'm catching up on and everything I watched tonight had lots of brief periods when the picture froze and the audio continued.

Jimbo
12-01-2009, 06:09 AM
Anyone having issues with stopples? I have a ton of stuff I'm catching up on and everything I watched tonight had lots of brief periods when the picture froze and the audio continued.

Thats been happening for me and several friends for several months now.
Not all shows and just a brief pause, a sec or two, but it has been happening here.
I've had the recvr replaced and did not help.

I use an EHD, while my other friends use just the hd in the box , all three are effected.

Jimbo
12-01-2009, 06:10 AM
I d/l 380 on Friday night without any issues.
I use a HR20 with a Seagate 1.5tb EHD.

Hookem99
12-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Anyone having issues with stopples? I have a ton of stuff I'm catching up on and everything I watched tonight had lots of brief periods when the picture froze and the audio continued.

This started happening to me tonight. Watching a 720p program from an HR21 to an HR23. Happens about ever 5 minutes for about a second, but not a huge deal to me yet.

armchair
12-02-2009, 05:49 AM
Anyone having issues with stopples? I have a ton of stuff I'm catching up on and everything I watched tonight had lots of brief periods when the picture froze and the audio continued.


Same here; every 2 to 5 minutes with MRV from HR22 to HR22. I started to reply but I wasn't sure if you were referring to MRV or the problem some HR20s display on local HDD playback.

The MRV problem appears to be a interruption of packet flow rather than the hiccups of past MRV CEs. I've been seeing it more with the 720p for weeks now but just started with the 1080i content which was heavy on the splats 'til this CE. It doesn't bother me as much as the splats but neither of these should be happening. I can stream HD off the INTERNET better than locally with MRV.

cfb
12-03-2009, 02:54 PM
I think thats because the internet server you're streaming from is an array of big box servers with real cpu's in them. The HR2x has a processor roughly equivalent to a decent 15 year old PC. Certainly it has a lot of video decoding capabilities in hardware, but when its time to service a lot of requests, its a little weak.

armchair
12-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Do you think MRV will gain any improvement from Directv's move to become DLNA certified?

cfb
12-03-2009, 07:22 PM
I dont think so. I think mrv will improve when they figure out a way to buffer the stream without violating the Do Not Copy bit, or get the priorities straight in the box so that mrv is well fed, the recordings happen without hiccups, and the user interface is snappy. Right now they're streaming, but with end to end protection between the access card enrcyption, dtcp over the network and hdcp from there to the screen. If they store it on disk as a buffer, it'd be unencrypted and therefore probably a DNC violation. And the box doesnt have enough RAM to do any sort of effective buffer.

About all dlna certification would buy them is better interoperability with dlna servers on the network. Wont do much for dlna clients since those wont be able to do a dtcp key exchange with the receiver without something extra. I think its safe to say that directv wont be streaming to other dlna devices without 9000 lbs of encryption and end to end protection of the stream.

armchair
12-04-2009, 05:00 AM
So my MRV experience with this CE is less of the splats but more of the pausing of the packet flow. I pinged CLIENT and then SERVER with my PC while streaming an hour long episode of "FRINGE" on Fox-LA KTTV via sat feed and got 0% packet loss and max latency of 4 mS, avg. 0mS. I observed several frozen frames and some partial tears in frames or distorted lines and one partial frame pixelated but no packet loss reported on ping or the ports associated with the MRV stream. No discards, errors, CRC align errors, fragments or packet loss to report, received or transmitted by managed switch port monitor.

I was hoping to find some latency or packet loss to explain the observed activity but seems whatever it is, it's occurring within the boxes themselves.