SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 1/13/2010 1:30pm - 32 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 01/13/2010 01:13P - 01/13/2010 01:30P

Channel Additions:
9277(51) - WWJX [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 26 Spotbeam 11 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB11.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)(Jackson, MS-N/A (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Jackson, MS))
9277(51) - WWJX [SD TV] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Spotbeam 12 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_SB12.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)(Jackson, MS-N/A (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Jackson, MS))
123 - MERC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
233 - NOTAX [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
275 - ASCC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A)
285 - SMC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
285 - SMC [MPEG4 SD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 09 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
616 - EXPNW [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 22 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
832 - CNTRO [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
9996 - ECC [MPEG4 SD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 29 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
19222 - IWINO [DATA] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 13 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)
36849 - DNL1 [143] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (A)
36849 - DNL1 [143] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam (A)

Channel Removals:
123 - SRI (A) removed from EchoStar7 119W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
123 - SRI (A) removed from Nimiq5 72.7W TP 31 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
947 - AUD20 (NA) removed from EchoStar8 77W TP 21 ConUS beam
949 - MUZK2 (NA) removed from EchoStar8 77W TP 21 ConUS beam
7713 - XGEM (A) (H) removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Spotbeam 14 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_SB14.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
9680 - AHTVN (A) (H) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 15 ConUS beam

Channel Moves:
15172 - KOPX4 [EPG] moved from EchoStar7 119W TP 03 Spotbeam 9 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_SB9.jpg&sort=TP&order=) to EchoStar10 110W TP 25 Spotbeam 25 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB25.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
646 - ESC-1 [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam to Echostar12 61.5W TP 21 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (A) (H)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
403 - NHLN [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 15 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
403 - NHLN [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
5172(18) - XGEM [MPEG4 HD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Spotbeam 14 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn61&sub=true&beamMap=E12_SB14.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)
8257(43) - KEYED [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 07 Spotbeam 10 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_SB10.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)
9540(403) - NHLN [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 30 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
9540(403) - NHLN [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 02 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
19221 - TETRV [DATA] - EchoStar11 110W TP 14 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available

Channel Mapdown Changes:
104 - SRI EchoStar7 119W TP 11 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 71 added (A)
104 - SRI Nimiq5 72.7W TP 31 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown of 71 added (A)

Channel Renames:
14251 - WFUM1 - EchoStar10 110W TP 12 Spotbeam 13 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB13.jpg&sort=TP&order=) renamed to WFUM2 (NA)

Transponder Changes:
EchoStar7 119W TP 03 Spotbeam 9 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_SB9.jpg&sort=TP&order=) 21500 8PSK 2/3 removed

Channels in the system: 6666
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

Well that was a let down! The only new HD is local that was announced via Twitter.

wow ascc channel, now i have another place to watch infomercials ALL DAY LONG. that was worth the wait. thanks for the heads-ups guys

they may not be done yet

I thought that they were going to turn on that Puerto Rico new channel!

NHLN at 9540 is red in Alaska, the SD version is available.

So, back on the 2/11/2009 uplink report (http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-uplink-center/164661-2-11-2009-5-22pm-uplink-activity-report-109-changes.html) the following channel was added:
5253(24) - KBTZ [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 12 (NA)(Butte, MT-FOX)

On 6/24/2009 the channel was removed (http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-uplink-center/179355-6-24-2009-12-29pm-uplink-activity-report-56-changes.html):
5253 - KBTZ (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 12(Butte, MT-FOX)

KBTZ was sold from Equity Media to Max Media. Supposedly Fox is broadcasting OTA on channel 19-2 in 720p HD.

We have the other locals (ABC, CBS, NBC) in HD. Is there anything I can do to get E* to broadcast Fox in HD?

Nice uplink........




NOT

KBTZ was sold from Equity Media to Max Media. Supposedly Fox is broadcasting OTA on channel 19-2 in 720p HD.

We have the other locals (ABC, CBS, NBC) in HD. Is there anything I can do to get E* to broadcast Fox in HD?

They have to cut a deal with Max Media. None of the 3 former Equity Fox stations now owned by Max Media are in HD on Dish. They are in SD on Dish though

Does anyone know anything about Quad Cities HD locals?

They originally said they would be up "this summer" (which was last summer), then they announced on a Tech Chat a date (which I think was in September), then later said it was delayed. Then on another Tech Chat they announced November 11, which came and went once again with nothing.

Does anyone know what the holdup is? When we might see something?

They have to cut a deal with Max Media. None of the 3 former Equity Fox stations now owned by Max Media are in HD on Dish. They are in SD on Dish though

Yeah, they are in SD, but the PQ of the SD broadcast seems to be particularly bad.

Are they trying to cut a deal? Is there anything I can do? Nag both Max Media and E*?

They originally said they would be up "this summer" (which was last summer), then they announced on a Tech Chat a date (which I think was in September), then later said it was delayed. Then on another Tech Chat they announced November 11, which came and went once again with nothing.

This sounds like the process that every channel goes through before going live on Dish :p

285 - SMC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)

What is that?:confused:

285 - SMC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)

What is that?:confused:

It is something similar to the dish earth channel on 212, but this camera is mounted in the uplink center showing the guys laughing at the posts in this thread. The reason it is not available is because there is not a contract yet.

They have to cut a deal with Max Media. None of the 3 former Equity Fox stations now owned by Max Media are in HD on Dish. They are in SD on Dish though

This is my spotbeam:
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 129°W (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&sort=&order=&beamMap=CIEL2_SB12.jpg)

It doesn't look like there is a Fox in HD broadcasting on this spotbeam at all. Am I reading that correctly? The only other spots that might work for me are SB6 and maybe SB13. SB13 only has SD Wyoming channels and SB6 only has 3 HD channels, 1 is not available, and no fox listed.

I spoke with Max Media and this was their reply:

Hi Linda,

Do you know the status of getting Fox in HD on DishNetwork?

-Ryan

Hi Ryan,

From my understanding, it is available to them now, but they may need additional receive equipment to be able to provide it to their subscribers.

However, FOX can now be found on KTMF digital channel 23.2, which is now broadcasting gorgeous high definition digital signals over the air.

Regards,

Linda

Linda Julius
Program Manager
Max Media of Montana
2200 Stephens Avenue
Missoula, MT 59801


Does Linda just not know what she is talking about? It sounds like she is under the impression E* could broadcast it if they wanted to.

So, are we thinking this is it for the day? Shall I go back to pining for QVC HD for another week?

KBTZ was sold from Equity Media to Max Media. Supposedly Fox is broadcasting OTA on channel 19-2 in 720p HD.KWYB is apparently the Butte ABC and Fox affiliate and they're broadcasting on 18.2.

Having an HD feed on a subchannel is exceedingly rare. Wikipedia lists four such stations and none of them are in Montana.

I'm guessing that there are no Fox HD feeds to be had outside of KHMT in Billings (Nexstar) as Max owns all others and they're all on subchannels.

City|Call|Channel
Missoula|KTMF-DT|23.2
Kalispell|KTMF-LD|42.2
Butte|KWYB-DT|18.2
Bozeman|KWYB-LD|28.2
Great Falls|KFBB-DT|5.2
Helena|KHBB-LD|21.2

[Blasted table function doesn't work]

Does anyone know anything about Quad Cities HD locals?

They originally said they would be up "this summer" (which was last summer), then they announced on a Tech Chat a date (which I think was in September), then later said it was delayed. Then on another Tech Chat they announced November 11, which came and went once again with nothing.

Does anyone know what the holdup is? When we might see something?

I'm thinking that got pushed back with some changes on 77 and shuffling going on of traffic to 72 since more transponders on 72 will be lit up. Or they could be waiting for E-14 to prevent people having to switch over to EA.

We have WGGB in Springfield Mass which has two 720p signals

55-1 is WGGB - ABC
55-2 is FOX-SPRINGFIELD

Dish does not carry Springfield locals.

I'm thinking that got pushed back with some changes on 77 and shuffling going on of traffic to 72 since more transponders on 72 will be lit up. Or they could be waiting for E-14 to prevent people having to switch over to EA.

I hope it is the E-14. I really don't want another Dish on my house...

KWYB is apparently the Butte ABC and Fox affiliate and they're broadcasting on 18.2.

I am aware of that ;) Equity Broadcasting channels were on free to air so when Equity went bankrupt we knew where the stations went when they sold off the 50+ stations they owned ;)

Max Media bought the 3 remaining Fox stations in Montana. But since the towers were analog only and no digital facilites even dreamed up, Max said screw it and put the Fox on their subchannel

Does Linda just not know what she is talking about? It sounds like she is under the impression E* could broadcast it if they wanted to.

Dish has to sign the agreement with Max Media. The stations are not even uplinked so they can't broadcast them

Dish has to sign the agreement with Max Media. The stations are not even uplinked so they can't broadcast them

Based on "Linda"s response it sounds to me as though Dish has advised Max of the uplink issue, and a solution is not on the immediate horizon.

I don't know what Dish's policy is with regard to distribution of HD subchannels. Maybe Iceberg can inform us? My understanding is that multiple HD channels on a single broadcast band creates quality issues (due to inadequate bandwidth), but maybe that problem would be mitigated if Dish gets the signal hardwired directly from the station (i.e., pre-broadcast).

Regards,
Fitzie

Drunkards rejoice!! Your channel is here!!!!

19222 - IWINO
:p

We could hear some interesting news today... Check back here at the site after Noon Eastern... ;)

We could hear some interesting news today... Check back here at the site after Noon Eastern... ;)
Like the fact that if you live in middle-of-nowhere, USA, you'll now be able to watch CSI NY in HD 'cause middle-of-nowhere CBS is now available in HD, channel 18 :D Seriously now, the reason for this comment is the fact that there's a Retailer chat today, fair statement?

Seriously now, the reason for this comment is the fact that there's a Retailer chat today, fair statement?

No. The reason for the comment is because of what they MAY say at the retailer chat.:D

Like the fact that if you live in middle-of-nowhere, USA, you'll now be able to watch CSI NY in HD 'cause middle-of-nowhere CBS is now available in HD, channel 18 :D

I'm hearing Bloom, KS HD locals could go live this week.

Based on "Linda"s response it sounds to me as though Dish has advised Max of the uplink issue, and a solution is not on the immediate horizon.

I don't know what Dish's policy is with regard to distribution of HD subchannels. Maybe Iceberg can inform us? My understanding is that multiple HD channels on a single broadcast band creates quality issues (due to inadequate bandwidth), but maybe that problem would be mitigated if Dish gets the signal hardwired directly from the station (i.e., pre-broadcast).

Regards,
Fitzie

Dish does carry certain Big Four subchannels in HD - CGEM (listed as XGEM) (Fox subchannel, Quincy IL) and KHQA-DT2 (ABC Quincy IL) are two of them. It's just a retrans consent issue <read: money and technical issues>.

i want Springfield ma locals,but unfortunately will never see them.Guess i am stuck "living" in Suffield CT for the time being.i wonder why they won't carry the locals here.maybe because cbs is a low power station and fox is a sub channel?

That undoubtedly has a lot to do with it....