SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 1/27/2010 4:04pm - 27 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 01/27/2010 03:49P - 01/27/2010 04:03P

Channel Additions:
5254(9) - KUSM [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 12 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_SB12.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)(Bozeman, MT-PBS (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Bozeman, MT))
4114(114) - TMP59 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4114(114) - TMP59 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4135 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4135 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4149(149) - TMP62 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4149(149) - TMP62 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4153 - TMP63 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4153 - TMP63 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4185 - TMP60 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4185 - TMP60 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4204(204) - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4204(204) - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4933(387) - CI [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4934(239) - WGN [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4935(194) - GREEN [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
8639(33) - KCSO [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 20 Spotbeam 43 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB43.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)

Channel Removals:
739 - RTVI+ (A) removed from Anik F3 118.7W TP 30 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)
4130 - TMP10 (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=)

Channel Moves:
497 - HUSLR [MPEG4 HD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (A)
4209 - MSNBC [MPEG4 HD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (A) (H)
9511 - MSNBC [MPEG4 HD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (A)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
616 - EXPNW [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 22 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn118&sub=true&beamMap=ANIKF2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available
832 - CNTRO [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E11_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available
5767 - IAD10 [DATA] - EchoStar7 119W TP 14 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn119&sub=true&beamMap=E7_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed package flags (A)
7798(69) - OCTV [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB49.jpg&sort=TP&order=) changed to Available (H)

Channel Mapdown Changes:
7504 - KPBI EchoStar10 110W TP 23 Spotbeam 20 (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn110&sub=true&beamMap=E10_SB20.jpg&sort=TP&order=) mapdown changed from 44 to 34 (A) (H)(Eureka Springs, AR-MNT (http://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&q=Eureka Springs, AR))

Channels in the system: 6704
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

wheres espnu-hd?

Never heard of it.

There are 3 hints in this uplink report though. ;) One hasn't been mentioned here at all.

There are 3 hints in this uplink report though. ;) One hasn't been mentioned here at all.

I'd be happier if there were a mapdown to 135 on that list.

There are 3 hints in this uplink report though. ;) One hasn't been mentioned here at all.

Soccer HD?

149! that is a surprise!

4135 BBC America HD?

Looks like EHD and BBCAHD are inbound SOON

wheres espnu-hd?
I would like to know the same thing!!!!! Where is ESPNU HD? We Will probably get it after Direct tv adds it!!!!!!!!!!!

Trutv is also mapped on HD now

149! that is a surprise!

People all over Mexico and Europe are ecstatic. This one is up there with WFN imo.

My Vols play tonight on the U. Let's go Charlie, flip the switch NOW!!!

My Vols play tonight on the U. Let's go Charlie, flip the switch NOW!!!

More people watch sports then watch trutv

I was referring to the ESPNU-HD switch.

The new HD channels will probably become available next week. Likely on Wed 2/3 or Fri 2/5 because that is the same time as last year when they added FNC HD and Fox Business HD.

come on Espnu HD!!!!!!!!!!!

FOX SOCCER CHANNEL HD please!!!

There are 3 hints in this uplink report though. ;) One hasn't been mentioned here at all.
4114(114) - TMP59 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
114- E! -HD
4149(149) - TMP62 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
149 Fsc-HD
4204(204) - TMP64 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
204 TRU-HD

So these HD channels that were added to 129 and 72... are they going to be on 61.5 for people who don't have an Eastern Arc dish?

sounds like charlie is gonna screw over the 61.5 customers once again!!

i don't watch these channels.bring on espnu

Yes, CentroamericaTV is back. Thank you Dish Network.

They will be moved back to 61.5 before launch... They are testing out the additional transponders at 72.7 that they recently took over. :)

i don't watch these channels.bring on espnu

I don't watch ESPNU, put it in the sports tier.

I wonder if the deal with ePix could not be worked out? I was looking forward to getting to see ePix.

At least 3 HD channels appear to be added to the PR HD Pak soon. A no brainer for Charlie, subs from Puerto Rico should have access to every HD channel on 110. I hope folks at Dish don't change their mind. :)

I haven't seen it on the uplink report, but 5253 KWYBD (Butte/Bozeman, MT-Fox) showed up in my guide some time in the last couple days. I switched to it and it was in 16:9 format so I am hopeful Fox is not available in HD for my local DMA. Strange thing was that the SD channel has program information but the HD channel did not. Is this something that will show up over the next couple days?

This is interesting because I called the other day (Monday I think) to complain about this channel being broadcast OTA in HD, but not in HD on their network. Then a couple days later it shows up.

I haven't seen it on the uplink report, but 5253 KWYBD (Butte/Bozeman, MT-Fox) showed up in my guide some time in the last couple days. I switched to it and it was in 16:9 format so I am hopeful Fox is not available in HD for my local DMA. Strange thing was that the SD channel has program information but the HD channel did not. Is this something that will show up over the next couple days?

This is interesting because I called the other day (Monday I think) to complain about this channel being broadcast OTA in HD, but not in HD on their network. Then a couple days later it shows up.

That one went active on 1/20 on last weeks report.

Nothing for Alaska and Hawaii unless they let us watch CI, but they didn't add it to our channel range.

if they are going to move the channels from 72 to 61 before let me launch, doe that mean we will not see any thing new next week? will it be a week to move and then another to lite up?

and fsc will be another hd channel with no hd

and fsc will be another hd channel with no hd

It's not some channel that refuses to air HD programming, they just won't get there til March. There's a couple other ones on the uplinked list like that, too. I think it'd be good for Dish to be out front for a change on some HD programming.

It wouldn't show up in the uplink reports since it wasn't a table change, but I noticed very recently that Dish has finally opened up the bitrates on the 72.7W transponders with only SD channels. Since Nimiq 5 went online, many of the SD channels were sitting in transponders with 12-13 Mbps of null PIDs, holding the channels down to the same bitrates they had before the 8PSK upgrade. Now that the bitrates are being allowed to fill out the transponders more, there is an increase of about 40-50% in the video bitrate per channel. Too bad the video is still 480x480 and going through Dish's flattening detail-reducing filter. They can do far better than that with H.264, especially now. Here's hoping that more changes for the better are coming.

Sorry if this was reported elsewhere and I missed it. :)

Also, during the past week Epix was in-the-clear on 61.5W as 1440x1080i. It had no table entry (ch. 4835 showed as being removed in the 1/20 uplink report) but the PIDs remained there for at least 5 days and are gone now. The channel is supposed to be 720p so I imagine Dish was just playing around. Time will tell I suppose.

They should overcompress the SD channels that have HD counterparts, and lessen the compression of the SD channels without HD counterparts. :D

They should overcompress the SD channels that have HD counterparts, and lessen the compression of the SD channels without HD counterparts. :D

HGTV and Food Network SD look pretty bad (VHS-quality).

They should overcompress the SD channels that have HD counterparts, and lessen the compression of the SD channels without HD counterparts. :D

That idea would screw over SD only customers.

There are more SD only subs than there are HD subs.

What Dish should do is swap everyone to mpeg4 boxes that can downrez HD to SD.

Then eliminate SD channels what have a HD counterpart.

It might cost more $$$ upfront, but it will reduce wasted bandwidth.

But then you will get people that will bitch that their SD image has black bars on top or bottom, is stretched so people look fat, or some of the image (top and bottom) is missing, particularly those crawls on ESPN's or news channels.

if they are going to move the channels from 72 to 61 before let me launch, doe that mean we will not see any thing new next week? will it be a week to move and then another to lite up?

Not necessarly, they can move them back at anytime.

Is it safe to say that 129° will offer better HD picture quality than 61.5°?

4135 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 23 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4135 - TMP10 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 32 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4153 - TMP63 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4153 - TMP63 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4185 - TMP60 [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 20 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn129&sub=true&beamMap=CIEL2_CONUS.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)
4185 - TMP60 [MPEG4 HD] added to Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dn72&sub=true&beamMap=NIMIQ5_72.jpg&sort=TP&order=) (NA)


If the other 3 follow the same pattern then,

135= BBC America
153=Outdoor Channel
185=Hallmark Channel

which have all been rumored.

That idea would screw over SD only customers.

There are more SD only subs than there are HD subs.

What Dish should do is swap everyone to mpeg4 boxes that can downrez HD to SD.

Then eliminate SD channels what have a HD counterpart.

It might cost more $$$ upfront, but it will reduce wasted bandwidth.

They already do this with the locals on EA. When they have the channel in HD on EA, the SD feed goes away. Not sure why they don't do this on the regular channels too, but they have a bunch of bandwidth on EA for nationals now, unlike the crunch they are in for local spotbeam bandwidth.


If the other 3 follow the same pattern then,

135= BBC America
153=Outdoor Channel
185=Hallmark Channel

which have all been rumored.

Ahah! Someone finally figured out the 3 hints to the entire picture of the 6 channels. I know we've heard about them before but it is always cool to see a confirmation on the reports.

149! that is a surprise!

Wow, FSC+ HD = Awesome.

So these HD channels that were added to 129 and 72... are they going to be on 61.5 for people who don't have an Eastern Arc dish?

Good question... if not, Dish gonna spring for new dishes??? :)

Again...

They will be moved back to 61.5 before launch... Dish is testing transponders on 72.7...

Is it safe to say that 129° will offer better HD picture quality than 61.5°?

I would assume that the number of channels per transponder on 61.5 are the same number that are per transponder on 129. I.E. if there are 8 per TP on 61.5 then there would be 8 per TP on 129.

I would assume that the number of channels per transponder on 61.5 are the same number that are per transponder on 129. I.E. if there are 8 per TP on 61.5 then there would be 8 per TP on 129. ehhh they might be testing new encoders

I would assume that the number of channels per transponder on 61.5 are the same number that are per transponder on 129. I.E. if there are 8 per TP on 61.5 then there would be 8 per TP on 129.

Actually, i think they were loading 9 per tp. on 61.5°. From what i see there's more room for these new channels on 129°. But, i guess i'll wait until it pans out before i move my wing dish over to 129 from 61.5.

Again...

They will be moved back to 61.5 before launch... Dish is testing transponders on 72.7...

I had read that DirecTV had turned off 5 TPs at 72.7 W (72.5 W) few weeks ago but hadn't caught up on Dish testing on these same TPs since I have been on vacation. It looks like the transition of these TPs from DirecTV to Dish at 72.7 W is going exactly how I predicted when it was announced that Dish would have use of all 32 TPs at 72.7 W around the time Nimiq 5 was launched.

Wow, FSC+ HD = Awesome.

Eventually, Maybe. My understanding from other friends in the soccer community is that ESPN has an EXCLUSIVE on North American HD of live Premier League and other major foreign soccer leagues for this season. That FSC can't broadcast these events in HD, even if they could.

I could be wrong.

That said, I think soccer has the biggest qualitative difference going from SD to HD of all the sports (especially for foreign games because the SD has to go through a conversion), so I am looking forward to al live soccer on FSC being HD ... eventually.

Setanta Sports is going off the air here in the USA in the next few weeks. :(

How about epix?Whatever happened to epix being turned on?Did negotiations fall through or are they waiting for something?Did Charlie decide on we dont need that or is it Soooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?i would like to also see espn-u added

My understanding from other friends in the soccer community is that ESPN has an EXCLUSIVE on North American HD of live Premier League and other major foreign soccer leagues for this season. That FSC can't broadcast these events in HD, even if they could.


I don't see how they could wing that. They basically bought the sublicense for the 7:30 Sat. and 3:30 Mon. games from Setanta. Maybe Setanta had that in their sublicense, but it would be doubtful.

I must say that I have watched every ESPN EPL game this year simply because it was in HD.

How about epix?Whatever happened to epix being turned on?...

It's still in the holding pen. The TMP HD channel was moved from ch. 4835 to ch. 263 as part of the 1/20 uplink. Pretty sure the SD channel is still on ch. 292 as it was before. The wait continues...

Wow, FSC+ HD = Awesome.

No FSC+ HD at this point, just FSC HD. Although I would hope Dish will add FSC+ (and maybe even FSC+ HD) when they drop Setanta next month...

Eventually, Maybe. My understanding from other friends in the soccer community is that ESPN has an EXCLUSIVE on North American HD of live Premier League and other major foreign soccer leagues for this season. That FSC can't broadcast these events in HD, even if they could.

I could be wrong.

That said, I think soccer has the biggest qualitative difference going from SD to HD of all the sports (especially for foreign games because the SD has to go through a conversion), so I am looking forward to al live soccer on FSC being HD ... eventually.

I go away for one day, and the result is posts like this that are so far from the truth, it is astonishing.

This post is equivalent to saying that Bill Clinton is a Reptilian Alien who was fighting the Gray Aliens, and who was taking orders from Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa.
:rolleyes: :eek:

1 - Fox has been broadcasting soccer in HD on Dish Network since the fall of 2009. They were doing it on the HD RSNs, and Dish provided an extra feed on the HD version of Channel 444 for those areas where the local RSN was not in HD (or had a press conference pre-emption).

Their plan was to launch FSC in HD on January 1st with about a half dozen EPL and Serie A matches in HD per week and Champions League in HD as well. But, just like with BBC America, no cable or satellite provider had space that they wanted to use on January 1st.

2 - Fox owns all the USA rights to Champions League, and EPL for the next several years. ESPN only has some rights to MLS. Fox leased rights to ESPN for 1-2 matches per week of EPL, and GolTV leased rights to ESPN for 1-3 matches per week of La Liga. ESPN already has HD channels (ESPN2-HD) so they broadcast the HD feed when they can get it.

3 - Setanta USA failed to make their payments to Fox for sub-leased rights to EPL and Champions League. As of March 1st, they are over. On March 1st, Fox launches their own replacement "Fox Soccer Plus" which will be in HD.

4 - FSC's studios are already setup for HD and they have access to at least 6 matches a week in HD, and all other European programming is already in 16x9 and in 576i, so it will look a lot better than SD 480i in 4x3.

PS The temp channel could be Fox Soccer Plus, and the mapdown to 149 could be a Dish Engineering mistake, since FSC and Fox Soccer Plus will have different programming.

I go away for one day, and the result is posts like this that are so far from the truth, it is astonishing.

This post is equivalent to saying that Bill Clinton is a Reptilian Alien who was fighting the Gray Aliens, and who was taking orders from Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa.
:rolleyes: :eek:



Where's Vurby and MadTown? :D

Take the politics to Sonicbabble.com folks.. this is not the place for it. ;)

Yes,we know there was available soccer on RSN in HD,but it was too confusing.You nener knew if they gonna show something or not.Now you just press your guide and check FSC witch game they are gonna show and it will be there.The same is with espn2 now. Two weeks ago i wanted to watch spanish league and they showed stupid poker instead.(witch i never gonna understand,how can somebody watch it).
Come on Charlie,flip the switch!!!:D

The logo on the regular FSC channel (SD) right now says:

" FSC HD Live "

indicating that the SD feed is now downconverted from the HD feed...

My guess is that the announcement of " Fox Soccer Plus " as a premium channel for which Fox will receive a $$ premium, allows them to charge a more nominal fee - at least in the short term - for FSC-HD - especially for those satellite or cable providers who are willing to launch the channel earlier than others.

Take the politics to Sonicbabble.com folks.. this is not the place for it. ;)

It's not political - there is an actual series of "non-fiction" books that have sold millions of copies claiming that Bill Clinton (and other world leaders) are actually Reptilian Aliens fighting the Gray Aliens.

To make a complete circle, the author was formerly a professional goalkeeper in the English soccer league.

Hm,i see it.That means FSC officially started in HD !!! cant wait...

Several years back, HD Net carried a few MLS games each week and they looked great in HD! Sadly, they dropped them.

thats great, I would love FSC HD, good thing that talk that FSC hd was actually FSC+hd appears to be wrong and we will get it without a premium. They seem to be broadcasting in HD, but there is really no way to tell, the logo says HD on the channel.

thats great, I would love FSC HD, good thing that talk that FSC hd was actually FSC+hd appears to be wrong and we will get it without a premium. They seem to be broadcasting in HD, but there is really no way to tell, the logo says HD on the channel.

The press release for FS+ and the reports from some top sources were worded as "Fox Soccer's venture into the world of HD".

So, I think that at that time, Fox was unsure that FSC-HD could find a place on systems, and that they needed the lure of $$ of a premium channel.

But we do know that all the studio and uplink equipment were in place, because they were used for the HD RSN broadcasts, and can be used for either Fox Soccer channel.

If you look at some of the HD channels added by Dish - such as Fishing HD - you can see that a low per subscriber cost is attractive to Dish.

In other words, these things can change from week to week...

I think that come August, "SD" will largely be for grandmothers and other people with VCRs and car cassette players. Remember that to the electronics industry, "HD" is now past history, and "3D" is the big hype...

probably a long shot, but does anyone know if the soup is in hd, thats the only show i watch on E! channel.

probably a long shot, but does anyone know if the soup is in hd, thats the only show i watch on E! channel.

Very long shot... The Soup is pillarboxed. The HD shows (e.g., Kendra, the Kardashians, Chelsea Lately) on E! tend to be letterboxed.

It's not political - there is an actual series of "non-fiction" books that have sold millions of copies claiming that Bill Clinton (and other world leaders) are actually Reptilian Aliens fighting the Gray Aliens.

To make a complete circle, the author was formerly a professional goalkeeper in the English soccer league.
Holy sh**! :D :D

Do you remember the name of the books?

Any idea which packages will include Fox Soccer HD?

Hm,i see it.That means FSC officially started in HD !!! cant wait...

i'd wait until it comes on live in HD before getting too excited. i remember watching an Arkansas football game in 2008 on ESPNU that had the ESPNU-HD logo on it, and we still aren't seeing that channel. but hopefully they will be adding all the channels we are wanting here in the upcoming weeks or so.

Any idea which packages will include Fox Soccer HD?

No guarantees, but I think it is pretty safe to assume that if you get FSC now, and you have the $10 HD package, then you will get FSC-HD.

On March 1st, they launch a new channel with different programming, in HD, called "Fox Soccer Plus" that will be a Premium channel in the same sense as HBO (or Setanta).

I wouldn't mind seeing Fox Soccer Plus as an addition to the Sports Pack instead of it being a stand alone premium, and I thought some press releases even said that operators would have that choice of including it as a sports pack channel or a stand alone network.

I wouldn't mind seeing Fox Soccer Plus as an addition to the Sports Pack instead of it being a stand alone premium, and I thought some press releases even said that operators would have that choice of including it as a sports pack channel or a stand alone network.

I'm really hoping they move it to the sports pack, hell I'd even take it as HD-only in the Platinum tier now that that isn't a separate fee :)