5:30pm EST 3/18/2010 - Request from Uplinker and IntelSat Engineering

We urgently need your testing assistance for a temporary transponder currently Testing until 12mid EST today 3/18/2010.



Please provide Signal Level and Signal Quality for these 4 transponders.
Indicate if you peak SQ for 11842, does the SQ drop on the other TPs?




TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ

Minneapolis, MN
Coolsat 5000/Geosatpro 36" dish

11929-76
12146-75
11842-75
11960-75...actually bouncing between 72 & 75

no I did not peak on 11842. I am peaked on 11966 but even if I try on the 36" to peak on 11842 I dont gain anything quality wise and dont lose anything on the other...When one goes they all go

The 30" has different results

11842-73
11929-75
11960-75/76
12146-75

I am peaked on 12115...If I peak the 30" to 11842 then I lose quality on a few transponders like 11966

North Florida
Pansat 9200HD/1.0m Primestar

11842 73%

11929 70%

11960 60-68%

12146 68%

...Overcast skies today, so readings may be a few points low. :)
(Also this dish is fixed on G19)

Coolsat 6000 1.2 Meter

* TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 94
* TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 94
* TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 93
* TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 94

Same if I peak for 11842.

Fortec 90 cm, Coship 3188C
San Jose, California

11842 H SL 74.5 SQ 55

11929 V SL 75.1 SQ 54

11960 V SL 75.4 SQ 53

12146 V SL 76.1 SQ 55

2. Indicate if you peak SQ for 11842, does the SQ drop on the other TPs? No

Sacramento, CA / Clear / 72F / 90cm GEOSATpro

TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 80 (peaked - Bump to west fraction of a degree)
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 77
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 55
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 75
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TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 65
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 80
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 70 (peaked)
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 80

Chicago on a 90 CM dish & pansat 9200

11842 H SL 71 SQ 58-61 fluctuating

11929 V SL 72 SQ 56

11960 V SL 72 SQ 10 -24 (fluctuating)

12146 V SL 70 SQ 44 & 58, It was at 44 for a moment and now is fluctuating between 52 & 58

11842-75
11929-75
11960- 47-55
12146-60

NE Ohio Fortec 36" dish
Pansat 3500S

Central Mexico / Clear / 84F / 90cm GEOSATpro

TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 53
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 59
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 50
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 55

So Cal 93555 area code / China Lakes Naval Weapons Center / clear / temp 78°
GEOSAT pro 36" motorized dish
Coolsat 6100 private

Peaked on 11842:
TP6 - 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 84%
TP11 - 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 86%
TP13 - 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 76 to 78% touchy
TP25 - 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 86%


Peaked on 11960:
TP6 - 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 84%
TP11 - 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 84%
TP13 - 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 82 to 84% touchy
TP25 - 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ = 85%

First peaked on 11842, I then had to jog the motor slightly EAST to fine tune 11960 which I found very touchy to peak. All of these TP's seem a bit touchy today as if the beam has been narrowed or more narrow than days ago.

97222 / Coolsat 6000 / Geosatpro 90cm / Geosatpro GSL1u / Wx: Sunny and Dry

TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: H SR: 22000 -SQ 70
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 72
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 70 (peaked)
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 70
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TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: H SR: 22000 -SQ 73 (peaked)
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 73
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 67
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: V SR: 22000 -SQ 69-72 fluctuating

TampaBay, Florida
Fortec - Merc II
Fortec 90 cm Dish


11842 - 75 / 60
11929 - 76 / 56
11960 - 77 / 22
12146 - 78 / 63

31" fortec
TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ peaked 55 a nudge west
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 55
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 54
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 54
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TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 42
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 46
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 56(peaked)
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 54

Milwaukee/Madison:
N-fusion HD 90cm WSI Inva SNH-031

11842 SL 99% SQ 53%
11929 SL 99% SQ 51%
11960 SL 99% SQ 70-75%
12146 SL 99% SQ 62%

No peaking of dish, dish is fixed to G19

Musher

10' Unimesh w/ DMX741, AZBox Elite

11929-63 (peaked)
12146-58
11842-60
11960-63

No change when Peaked on 11842

I just tried peaking all frequencies requested on my unimesh 7.5 and i noticed as i nudged west i lost all signal on all fr's except 11842 .Mind you the sig dropped off quite a bit but hung there for , 4 more clicks ( west ) till it dropped on the GBOX.

Fortec Merc II one meter Fortec Dish
Freq SL SQ
11842 78 66
11929 80 64
11960 78 64
12146 77 64

Skywalker 1 slaved off of the Merc II
Freq SS SNR(dB)
11842 74 11.2
11929 71 10.8
11960 74 11.1
12146 72 10.7

Dish is already peaked on 11842

Can't pick up G19 Horizontal using satmeter, only vertical. Can't pick up on receiver 11842 h 22000,but 11960 v 22000 signal quality 54-58 . Leon,Mexico.

CS5K on an Andrews 1.2m:
L/Q
11842: 88/76
11929: 89/79 (peaked)
11960: 89/77
12146: 89/78

11842: 88/76
11929: 89/76
11960: 89/79
12146: 89/78 (peaked)

Genpix on an Andrews 1.2m:
SNR (dB)
11842: 11.4 - 11.6
11929: 12.1 - 12.2
11960: 11.1 - 11.2
12146: 11.6 - 11.8

North Central Idaho / CNX Mini / Stationary Winegard 76cm dish aimed at 97w / Clear skies.

G19 @ 97w

11842 H
11929 V
11960 V
12146 V

All four transponders tested 95% Signal Level and 95% Signal Quality. No difference and no variation. All steady and strong.

Note: 95% seems to be "pegged against the upper limit" on my CNX Mini. Some other transponders on other sats do show up weaker. Usable signal Q threshold is about 35% on this receiver.

Hey, look on 11842H, VPID2119, there's a title board with a Glorystar ad...

Houston, TX - nice and sunny, no clouds.
1.2m Ariza, Pansat 9200HD

11842 - 86%
11929 - 85%
11960 - 88%
12146 - 84%

Eastern NC, partly cloudy, 48 F
Geosat Pro receiver, 36in dish

Below are results with 11842 peaked:
TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ 78 - 82
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ 88
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ 80
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL SQ 98

Please provide Signal Level and Signal Quality for these 4 transponders.
Indicate if you peak SQ for 11842, does the SQ drop on the other TPs?




TP6 - 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 78% SQ 53%
TP11 - 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 78% SQ 53%
TP13 -11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 77% SQ 60%
TP25 - 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 78% SQ 55%


2. No noticeable difference

Sacramento, CA

11842 str 98 qual 64
11929 str 99 qual 71
11960 str 98 qual 66
12146 str 95 qual 66

Jim

5:30pm EST 3/18/2010 - Request from Uplinker and IntelSat Engineering

We urgently need your testing assistance for a temporary transponder currently Testing until 12mid EST today 3/18/2010.



Please provide Signal Level and Signal Quality for these 4 transponders.
Indicate if you peak SQ for 11842, does the SQ drop on the other TPs?




TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 60
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 65
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 60
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80SQ 70

Frequency:11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 60
Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 65
Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 60
Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SL 80 SQ 70

Thanks to everyone who provided the readings for this short duration transponder test.

You input is useful for engineers to compare performance on a previously untested transponder. Maybe we might see this frequency placed into service........

Thank you SatelliteGuys! :up

36" from Bird Island, MN
TR FREQ. SL QL
06 11842 18.2 12.5 (picked)
11 11.960 17.2 12.0
13 11.960 16.2 10.6
27 12.177 12.2 2.0 no lock :mad:

with dish picked on TR 13
TR FREQ. SL QL
06 11842 18.2 12.2
11 11.960 17.2 7.2
13 11.960 11.2 10.6 (picked)
27 12.177 13.2 2.0 no lock :mad:
readings from field engineer Dan Peek

36" from Bird Island, MN
TR FREQ. SL QL
06 11842 18.2 12.5 (picked)
11 11.960 17.2 12.0
13 11.960 16.2 10.6
27 12.177 12.2 2.0 no lock :mad:

with dish picked on TR 13
TR FREQ. SL QL
06 11842 18.2 12.2
11 11.960 17.2 7.2
13 11.960 11.2 10.6 (picked)
27 12.177 13.2 2.0 no lock :mad:
readings from field engineer Dan Peek

:welcome to SatelliteGuys!
Interesting reading. We have noted that certain installs are experiencing reduced performance on specific transponders when peaking with TP 6: 11842.

What dish size was used during this test? (edit.... Oops my mistake) :o

Brian, his post says it's a 36"

BTW, I think he is Moses Primo from 3ABN according to his user name and location :)

First peaked on 11842, I then had to jog the motor slightly EAST to fine tune 11960 which I found very touchy to peak. All of these TP's seem a bit touchy today as if the beam has been narrowed or more narrow than days ago.

We noticed the same in our testing with TP13: 11960, The SQ dropped rapidly when bumping East/West as compared to other transponders.

If any of you have a meter to measure SNR or Spectum Analyzer on the G19 transponders, it would be interesting to see if these issues might be due to interference from adjacent satellites.

I am peaked on 12115...If I peak the 30" to 11842 then I lose quality on a few transponders like 11966

The smaller dish with wider beam width appear to not reject adjacent satellite interference?

It looks that way Brian

Winegard 30" dish on main setup
GeoSatPro 36" on 2nd motorized

The LNB on the main is a Sadoun dual .4
The LNB on the 2nd one is the WSI dual (the orange one)

BTW, I think he is Moses Primo from 3ABN according to his user name and location :)

I didnt know he was from MN...heck he's 45 minutes or so from me :)

SE Michigan

11842 fluctuate 59-66
11929 fluctuate 59-66
11960 no signal
12146 66
Made no difference when peaked on 11842.

Tested again, able to receive signal. LNB was off by one milimeter

Sorry to mess you up. I am Moses Primo from 3ABN but I am not from MN. I work and live in Illinois. 3ABN has 127 TV stations around the country that we have to move dishes from AMC-4 to G-19 and that is what we are doing now. Thank you for your help in taking time to make the measurements and give your report about G-19 reception. Thanks

Welcome Moses, and thanks for the interview with Brian from Glorystar which we used on the SatelliteGuys Radio Show. :)

Sorry to mess you up. I am Moses Primo from 3ABN but I am not from MN. I work and live in Illinois. 3ABN has 127 TV stations around the country that we have to move dishes from AMC-4 to G-19 and that is what we are doing now. Thank you for your help in taking time to make the measurements and give your report about G-19 reception. Thanks

Hello Moses and welcome, no need for apology, you have not messed up anything to my knowledge. I figured that's what you were doing and already knew you are from Illinois. Be sure to give our regard to all of the staff at 3ABN! :D

Welcome :wave Moses to Satelliteguys :)

3/22/2010
Central Mexico / Clear / 80F / 90cm GEOSATpro
TP6 - Frequency: 11842 Polarity: Horizontal Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 53
TP11 - Frequency: 11929 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 60
TP13 - Frequency: 11960 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 60
TP25 - Frequency: 12146 Polarity: Vertical Symbol Rate: 22000 -SQ 58

closing thread

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http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/206938-last-g19-ku-test-ends-3-23-2010-12-noon-est.html