Let's see...where did we leave off with last season's cliffhanger...oh yeah, it was a doozie! Oliva was shot in the head (JFK style) and Peter never existed in either world - he was an illusion. Oh yeah, and both world are heading for destruction and I still have no idea who the observers are or why they are observing us...or what happened to the missing pieces of Walter's brain for that matter (or gray matter). :rolleyes:

I guess all will be answer this coming season because I have a feeling it will be the last.

"Just one week after Peter Bishop saved the day and was then wiped from existence, the truce between the two worlds remains intact and the two sides are forced to work together. Lincoln Lee joins the team as they investigate a shapeshifter case that he is personally invested in."

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Peter will be back . Don't know how , but he will be back. The whole preview for next week shows him prominently featured.

Peter will be back . Don't know how , but he will be back. The whole preview for next week shows him prominently featured.

I'm sure Peter will be coming back...but will he be an "imagined" character?...flashbacks in time?...interesting. I wonder how they're going to unkill Olivia unless they go back in time.

It's simple, think of it:

He didn't really cease to exist, he just basically never got kidnapped by Walter when he was 10 years old. So, he just grew up normally, and went on to do whatever he was destined to do originally.

So, that basically "negated" everything having to do with his presence in the series as we've seen it, but he still exists as a person.

At least, that's what the obvious thinking would be for a conclusion to how easy it would be for them to "get him back". They don't have to get him back, they simply have to "recruit him" in what would be the "first place".

Well, the show was definitely a bit strange without Peter in the picture. Of course, since his face kept popping-up all over the place---giving Walter fits---it's obvious The Observer is going to fudge the playbook once again.

"When a serial killer "Over There" starts piling up victims, the Fringe Division gets involved with the investigation."

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It's simple, think of it:

He didn't really cease to exist, he just basically never got kidnapped by Walter when he was 10 years old. So, he just grew up normally, and went on to do whatever he was destined to do originally.


Actually he would be dead in both Universes. Walter went over to kidnap and cure the other Peter after his died. He was watching through the viewer and saw Walternate miss the cure. He then crossed over and kidnapped the sick Peter and cure him. He then was unable to bring himself to return alternate Peter.

So, in theory both Peters would have died in childhood.

Without Peter I just don't see how they (both Universes) arrived at where they're currently at...that would need too much explaining. Seriously, there's no "Universal Tear" without Walter needing to save Peternate. WTF? Anyway, I imagine Walter will continue to seeing images of Peternate Twice Removed (that's what he really is) in his Jello Pops and feeling like something is amiss...until The Observer brings him back in a couple shows and nobody remembers him being ever gone from existence. Of course, Peter's non-existence turns out to be nothing more than season finale fodder.

I'm totally lost now. IS there still two earths? How are they able to exist in the same room? Did Peter cause the rift to open to both worlds and now they can coexist only in this one room? Please someone fill me in on the story , because I've forgotten what is going on.

I'm totally lost now. IS there still two earths? How are they able to exist in the same room? Did Peter cause the rift to open to both worlds and now they can coexist only in this one room? Please someone fill me in on the story , because I've forgotten what is going on.

I wish that I could help you but the writers would have to go back and tell us the story from Day 1 (a Peter less version) forward. Again, they need to bring back Peter because the story makes no sense.

If you miss 5 minutes of this show, you're screwed!

I'm totally lost now. IS there still two earths? How are they able to exist in the same room? Did Peter cause the rift to open to both worlds and now they can coexist only in this one room? Please someone fill me in on the story , because I've forgotten what is going on.

Right now there are still 2 universes/earths. They both overlap in that room and they can interact. It is unclear what is happening outside the room - like are tears still opening in the alternate earth that need to be stopped? Peter appears to have wiped himself out of reality, but seems to somehow still exist (trapped between the 2 universes?).

I too don't understand this show now that Peter is history - or should I say gone from history!

I too don't understand this show now that Peter is history - or should I say gone from history!

I would speculate the bald guy will fix everything soon...

Thanks guys. I thought there was two earths. But I guess I got confused from the finale last spring where they showed one earth and both Walters living on the same planet in the near future.

I loved the show last year,except the last episode. Now I don't recognize the show. Where is Peter?

Where is Peter?The Observers (i.e., Bald Guys) decided to erase Peter from existence during last year's season finale. Apparenly they originally "put him there" to serve a purpose (which I assumed to mean having Walter/Walternate punch holes between the parallel universes) only to get rid of Peter---with nobody having memories of him---since he was no longer needed. Okay, assuming the viewing public buys into this hogwash...the writers would need to explain how they arrived at their current state of affairs since Peter never existed? :confused:

If that's not bad enough...somehow Walter is seeing images of Peter (we'll call them Peter Tracks :rolleyes: ) in mirrors and television sets...and he is frightened by them. Moreover, Walter keeps complaining that "something is askew" (e.g., he keeps asking if someone has altered the temperature, humidity, etc. in the lab) but he can't put his finger on the change. To top it all off, the Bald Guy is building a widget of some sort from old vacuum tubes that---from what I could gather---will completely erase Peter from existence. I guess he only deleted Peter and now he's having to perform a wipe-disk, so to speak.

Confused? Join the crowd! The Observers need to bring Peter back and have everything go back to normal, or paranormal, just like the season finale never existed. In other words, they need to perform a reverse Peter Pulling. :D

I was disappointed the Yankees-Tigers game was postponed...only to be followed-up by watching this stinker of an episode. I would have preferred having this episode of Fringe rained-out. :(

"The Fringe team investigates when the bodies of two 12-year-olds are found in an advanced state of decomposition just hours after bullying another boy; Walter grows more and more distracted by hallucinations."

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Sounds like we are back to the Mystery Fringe event of the Week , but this time Both worlds are in play and working together. I wish they would bring Peter back and wrap up this story or expand it past the fringe event of the week. I like the parallel earths story but they are now just glossing over the issue an uniting the two worlds together in one big Fringe team.

Wow! Only 3.1 million viewers tuned-in on Friday night. Fringe will surely be cancelled and replaced mid-season with ratings this these:

9 p.m.
CBS: "CSI: NY" (9.95 million, 6.5/11)
NBC: "Dateline" (5.5 million, 3.7/7)
ABC: "Pan Am" rerun (4.15 million, 2.8/5)
FOX: "Fringe" (3.1 million, 2.0/3)
The CW: "Supernatural" (1.8 million, 1.1/2)

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The show returns this Friday after a brief World Series hiatus. It should be interesting to see what happens now that Peter has somehow managed to return through the space-time continuum...and nobody remembers him.

"As the threat escalates with the return of translucent shapeshifters, a former Massive Dynamic scientist gets involved; Nina Sharp visits Walter in the lab."

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An Okay episode but I still have no idea who is controlling the Shapeshifters or what happened to the missing pieces or Walter's brain. :confused:

Still...glad to see it return after the World Series break.

An Okay episode but I still have no idea who is controlling the Shapeshifters or what happened to the missing pieces or Walter's brain. :confused:

Still...glad to see it return after the World Series break.

Didn't the missing pieces of Walter's brain die minutes after they were put back into Walter's head in the episode related to that? Walter was his egotistical, cold, calculating, scientist self for a few minutes- long enough to provide the needed info and then he went back to being his normal addled but sweet self.

Didn't the missing pieces of Walter's brain die minutes after they were put back into Walter's head in the episode related to that? Walter was his egotistical, cold, calculating, scientist self for a few minutes- long enough to provide the needed info and then he went back to being his normal addled but sweet self.

I must have missed that segment... :o (Thanks!)

I just hope they explain the Shapeshifters and Observers in the coming weeks.

"The team searches for a pattern in tragic time-loop anomalies; an electrical engineer (Stephen Root), his wife (Romy Rosemont), and a professor become involved with the investigation."

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Well, all I can say is I hope they wrap-up all the loose ends in the coming weeks because the ratings are terrible. This show is heading for mid-season cancellation.

9 p.m.

CBS: "CSI: NY" (9.6 million, 6.3/10)
NBC: "Grimm" (5.9 million, 3.6/6)
ABC: "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (5.4 million, 3.5/6)
FOX: "Fringe" (3.2 million, 2.0/3)
The CW: "Supernatural" (1.7 million, 1.1/2)

Am I the only one still watching the show?

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Sounds like we are back to the Mystery Fringe event of the Week , but this time Both worlds are in play and working together. I wish they would bring Peter back and wrap up this story or expand it past the fringe event of the week. I like the parallel earths story but they are now just glossing over the issue an uniting the two worlds together in one big Fringe team.

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Sounds like we are back to the Mystery Fringe event of the Week , but this time Both worlds are in play and working together. I wish they would bring Peter back and wrap up this story or expand it past the fringe event of the week. I like the parallel earths story but they are now just glossing over the issue an uniting the two worlds together in one big Fringe team.

At this point, I'm just afraid the show is going to get "yanked" before completing the story...or, perhaps even worse, tossing-out a half-arsed FlashForward or Jericho-like ending. This is the final year for Fringe...just hoping it's not a mid-season cancellation.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/01/fox-dont-assume-allen-gregory-will-be-canceled-yet/109200/

I watch and like the show. If it gets the ax, maybe it could go into syndication on the cw or something.

Am I the only one still watching the show?

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I watch it faithfully. But I think that the whole two earths/ parallel universe concept has gotten too convoluted for the average Joe 6 pack to comprehend.

I watch it as well and will be pissed if they leave us hanging. It isn't like there is something better out there to replace it with.

I truly WANT to like the show, but feel "meh" every week. With everyone not knowing/trusting/avoiding Peter, he might as well not be back at all. Hopefully they turn the necessary corner soon.

Fringe returns tonight at 8pm............Friday 13th !

I enjoyed the show last night, but Peter needs to get back home...soon.

I thought Peter was home . That the time line he returned to was because he never existed. So now we have two parallel earths and an alternate time lines in both of them to contend with. Talk about convoluted story lines. I am starting to get really confused here.

I thought Peter was home . That the time line he returned to was because he never existed. So now we have two parallel earths and an alternate time lines in both of them to contend with. Talk about convoluted story lines. I am starting to get really confused here.
IIRC, the "machine" created a new time line for both universes...both the same as before, but without Peter.
Looking forward to the return of Dr. Jones...or the "other" Dr. Jones, I assume.

The shellacking that the Patriots was giving to the Broncos allowed me to be able to watch the Jan. 13th episode of Fringe that I recorded. It was ok. I like watching Grimm better.

Well...Friday night's show drew a dismal 2.8 million viewers nationwide. These are NBC/CW numbers. I just don't see how they're going to wrap-up this series when the entire season has been a simultaneous head-scratching/arse-scratching fustercluck. :confused:

It's as though every decision the producers and writers made about this show have been wrong (i.e., the George Costanza effect) and/or designed to irritate the audience. :boink:

But perhaps this show is a smash hit in an alternate universe. :rolleyes:

Time to pick-up a shovel and bury this show...at least in this universe. :tombstone:

I thought the episode was dismal.

S~

IIRC, the "machine" created a new time line for both universes...both the same as before, but without Peter.
Looking forward to the return of Dr. Jones...or the "other" Dr. Jones, I assume.

I thought the machine just bridged the two universes. The bald men removed Peter from the timeline. Now we have the "good" bald man that has been showing signs of rebelling against the other bald men and restoring Peter to the time line getting shot.

I thought the machine just bridged the two universes. The bald men removed Peter from the timeline. Now we have the "good" bald man that has been showing signs of rebelling against the other bald men and restoring Peter to the time line getting shot.

After 3 1/2 years of watching this show I have barely a clue who the bald men are, how they operate, and how they "fit in" to the storyline...

It would seem that the watchers are keepers of order, in the universe.

I've been trying to catch up with this season, watching the episodes online. I've only gone through episode 5 and I missed episode 2 (although I probably didn't miss much in that episode.) Honestly, I don't FOX renewing Fringe for another season and I actually think it might get better ratings on a cable network like FX or USA network.

I've been trying to catch up with this season, watching the episodes online. I've only gone through episode 5 and I missed episode 2 (although I probably didn't miss much in that episode.) Honestly, I don't FOX renewing Fringe for another season and I actually think it might get better ratings on a cable network like FX or USA network.

It's not going to get better ratings anywhere unless the writers and producers get their heads out of their A**'s.

Fringe is as off the rails with their Peter story line as CBS' Ghost Whisperer was when they killed off Jim & then their subsequent story line of how they brought him back.

If they cancel Terra Nova,then how can they justify keeping Fringe on the air?

If they cancel Terra Nova,then how can they justify keeping Fringe on the air?Because Fringe costs a fraction of what it pays for Terre Nova.

If they cancel Terra Nova,then how can they justify keeping Fringe on the air?

Anna Torv is Rupert Murdoch's niece?

Syndication? This is usually the big decider on a lot of series, if they have a secondary market to sell the series into like foreign markets or other channels like syfy. An expensive show like Terra Nova with only half a season is a lot harder sell since they really cannot resell the show until they have 80-100 episodes. Fringe has about 80 episodes (at the end of this current season). It will be really close to the number needed for reruns, so they (Warner Brothers) might do another season and not charge Fox much of anything to get enough episodes for a good syndication resell.

Anna Torv is Rupert Murdoch's niece?

Syndication? This is usually the big decider on a lot of series, if they have a secondary market to sell the series into like foreign markets or other channels like syfy. An expensive show like Terra Nova with only half a season is a lot harder sell since they really cannot resell the show until they have 80-100 episodes. Fringe has about 80 episodes (at the end of this current season). It will be really close to the number needed for reruns, so they (Warner Brothers) might do another season and not charge Fox much of anything to get enough episodes for a good syndication resell.

100 is the magic number. I know they(then UPN) waited until Star Trek Enterprise had 100 episodes before they canceled it.

As long as Fringe is on Fridays,why cancel it though? What exciting show do they have to replace it with,another Gordon Ramsey series(because I LOVE watching those:p)?

It would seem that the watchers are keepers of order, in the universe.

All I can say is...it's not working! Plus, the real watchers report to Nielson...and they're not watching. :D

Fringe is as off the rails with their Peter story line as CBS' Ghost Whisperer was when they killed off Jim & then their subsequent story line of how they brought him back.

...toss-in how she returned the following season with an 8-year old son and we're in full agreement. ;)

"The alternate Fringe division faces a new adversary in a race against the clock."

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Ummm...not a bad episode, but it looks like it's going to take Peter a full-season to find his way back home...just in time for the series to be cancelled and a hurried "let's try to tie all the loose ends together" tossed-out for a viewing displeasure. We shall see.

"Olivia copes with an ominous warning from the Observers; Peter and the team track a girl with the ability to predict death."

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"Astrid meets her alternate; Olivia and Peter search for a killer who is using a toxin that has yet to be invested."

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Invented not "invested" but I will be "invested" in the episode ,just like I am every week.;)

Invented not "invested" but I will be "invested" in the episode ,just like I am every week.;)

Me too...of course, if this season doesn't get back on track soon...the money used to produce this show will be invested elsewhere. :D

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I just watched last night's show...good episode.

Loved it. Looks like next week Olivia get's her memories of how Peter and her got together in the previous timeline. The teaser at the end of this week's episode show her kissing him and eating pizza like she did in the timeline before Peter was wiped out of everyone's memories. I don't think that there is a universe time line for Peter to return to. I think that this is the time line and that the only difference is that Peter was wiped out of their memories because of the machine. If he would work at it these people would grow to love him and or get their memories of him back , just like Olivia looks like she is doing.

Makes me wonder....is Peter going to find his way back to them...or the other way around?

I think it is the other way around Kab. They are coming back to him. If you remember the watchers said after Peter disappeared," they don't remember him." The other watcher responded:" How could they , he never existed. He served his purpose." So I think this universe is the universe or time line he came from. He used the machines to save both universes on both earths and now he came back, but no one remembers him ,till now.

Well, I've decided that I'll just "go with the flow" on this Peter never existed/trying to find his way home thing. All I know for sure is the ratings, in this Universe, continue their downward spiral and Fox has no choice but to cancel this series in May. The writers and producers have three months to wrap things up (hopefully neatly packaged with a box afixed) before the network observers erase it from television history. Unfortunately, with only 87 episode in the queue (and low-ratings) it will be difficult to syndicate thiss show.

Anyway, I am hoping to be WoWeD in the coming weeks. :)

9 p.m.

CBS: "CSI: NY" (10.3 million, 6.8/11)
NBC: "Grimm" (5.2 million, 3.1/5)
ABC: "Primetime: What Would You Do?" (4.8 million, 3.0/5)
FOX: "Fringe" (3 million, 1.9/3)
The CW: "Supernatural" (1.85 million, 1.0/2)

It went downhill when they did the hole alternate reality plot line. It was a nice Xfiles type replacement with the wierdness or monster of the week.

Watched Friday's episode tonight and imho it was the best of this winter.I also got bored with the alternate universe and prefer the X-filish episodes.Lysergic Acid Diethylamide is my favorite episode of the entire series.That was truly a trip.:D

Some people loved the LSD episode, others hated it...I enjoyed it very much. In fact, it's still on one of the DVRs.

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I don't see Fringe backing off the alternate universe story at all. I see it being the way they end it. Some how they will either merge the two universes without killing everyone like in the last episode . Possibly using the machine and Peter again. A timeline where Peter never died at all and then there are one Walter, Oliva , Peter , etc and they all lived happily ever after. That is if they have time to wrap up the storyline. But I keep wondering how the Red head running Dynamics, that is acting like Oliva's mother now ,and why she is having Oliva injected with some drug that causes her migranes. Why and for what purpose ? Funny how the changes Peter made in the time line affected both universes and changed things so much in both worlds. The Walternate in this timeline is not as evil as the one before the changes. There are no more references to amber, that the other earth used isolate Fringe events. Is the other earth still suffering from the attacks? Not enough is being showed on these changes in the story.

Also the two Fringe teams are now working together in both worlds and traveling back and forth. This is very much like the story line in D.C. comics that I loved when I was a kid. In the D.C. comics they had multiple earths ,but mainly earth 1 and earth 2 and the older superheros from the 40s and earlier lived on earth 2 and the superheros from the 60s and present day lived on earth 1. They traveled back and forth frequently and worked together. In the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" the worlds were all merged using the Monitor's machines to one consistent universe. The entire history of the earths were rewritten and started over with new origins for each superhero. It was a way to modernize and change histories of the superheros in the late 80s. Some superheroes died ,like Super Girl and some were de-evolved like Wonder Woman and started over completely.

If I were writing this I would do something similar and create one consistent universe for both worlds and create a better timeline using the Watchers and the machine Walter created to do this. I would also fill us in on how the machine ended up in ancient times buried so they could use it now. Also why Walter had pieces of his brain cut out to protect the machine ,etc. I only hope that they do wrap the story up and not leave it unanswered.

I think it is the other way around Kab. They are coming back to him. That's what I meant/said.

I don't see Fringe backing off the alternate universe story at all. I see it being the way they end it. Some how they will either merge the two universes without killing everyone like in the last episode . Possibly using the machine and Peter again. A timeline where Peter never died at all and then there are one Walter, Oliva , Peter , etc and they all lived happily ever after. That is if they have time to wrap up the storyline. But I keep wondering how the Red head running Dynamics, that is acting like Oliva's mother now ,and why she is having Oliva injected with some drug that causes her migranes. Why and for what purpose ? Funny how the changes Peter made in the time line affected both universes and changed things so much in both worlds. The Walternate in this timeline is not as evil as the one before the changes. There are no more references to amber, that the other earth used isolate Fringe events. Is the other earth still suffering from the attacks? Not enough is being showed on these changes in the story.

Also the two Fringe teams are now working together in both worlds and traveling back and forth. This is very much like the story line in D.C. comics that I loved when I was a kid. In the D.C. comics they had multiple earths ,but mainly earth 1 and earth 2 and the older superheros from the 40s and earlier lived on earth 2 and the superheros from the 60s and present day lived on earth 1. They traveled back and forth frequently and worked together. In the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" the worlds were all merged using the Monitor's machines to one consistent universe. The entire history of the earths were rewritten and started over with new origins for each superhero. It was a way to modernize and change histories of the superheros in the late 80s. Some superheroes died ,like Super Girl and some were de-evolved like Wonder Woman and started over completely.

If I were writing this I would do something similar and create one consistent universe for both worlds and create a better timeline using the Watchers and the machine Walter created to do this. I would also fill us in on how the machine ended up in ancient times buried so they could use it now. Also why Walter had pieces of his brain cut out to protect the machine ,etc. I only hope that they do wrap the story up and not leave it unanswered.

Nice script!Someone should forward this to Fox,it would be a great way to wrap up the series.

"As the team investigates a mentally ill patient who seems to be connected to a series of murders, frightening clues and connections lead Olivia to a shocking conclusion."

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That's what I meant/said.

I know ,I was agreeing with you.

Nice script!Someone should forward this to Fox,it would be a great way to wrap up the series.

Why not I wrote an ending to Battlestar Galactica show a year before it ran. It turned out just like I guessed it would. So either it was a big coincidence , or someone from SyFy read it here and stole my ending. Didn't even get a credit either.;)

"You're waited four years...to know who they are...the wait is over."

Good episode last night...I finished watching early this morning. Well, all I can say is next week's episode should be fantasic based on the previews. We're finally going to find out who, and what, the Observers (aka Bald Guys) are and, hopefully, their interest in the Fringe Division. :)

I'm one of the few who are watching too. I get so confused at times, but I'm sticking it out. :D I really enjoyed last night's episode and am looking forward eagerly to next week's--something I haven't felt for this series in quite a while!

As dahenny said earlier, "If you miss five minutes of a show, you're screwed!" I add that you may not understand things for months if you miss anything (and perhaps if you don't). I know I've "skipped back" more times with this show than any other. It will be hard for the writers to pull back previous viewers because of that.

Well, I think WE ARE the only ones watching this show. On a positive note, we're going to find out everything in the coming weeks.

9 p.m.

CBS: "A Gifted Man" (9.5 million, 6.1/10)
ABC: "20/20" (7.1 million, 4.7/8)
NBC: NAACP Image Awards (3.1 million, 2.1/3)
FOX: "Fringe" (3 million, 1.9/3) :(
The CW: "Supernatural" (1.7 million, 1.1/2)

yea it was another good episode.looking forward to finding out more about the observers.3 million for fox and a 1.9 on friday night isn't too bad.

Yep, I think my theory is right. Peter's universe is coming back to him.

Yep, I think my theory is right. Peter's universe is coming back to him.

Crap! I can't get my wife or daughters to make me a sandwich and here this joker has an entire universe doing his bidding. :p

Yep, I think my theory is right. Peter's universe is coming back to him.

Yes, I think we were both right. They are in the same universe and somehow it is coming back to them. Some how it is tied to the injections Olivia has been getting in the head from Nina and the Dynamics corporation. Somehow the injections restored her memories of the universe before Peter entered the machine and changed both worlds. The watchers are also tied to the changes , and possibly helping to orchestrate the changes back to the previous time line of this universe.

"Peter and the Fringe team take drastic measures to prevent life-threatening events."

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Great Episode can't wait for the next!

Yep, I've been wanting to learn more about the Observers for the past three years...looking forward to it.

Tonight we "find out all" about the Observers. This should be one of the better episodes in quite some time. I doubt that it will affect the ratings, but I'll be watching with bells on.

Very good episode...just a couple years late IMO. Anyway, the show will be on hiatus the next three weeks before returning with eight new episodes. Will these be the final episodes in the series? We shall see...

Was fun to see Monte Markham again. I don't think I've seen him on TV for about 40 years. Looks great at 81 yrs old.

Was fun to see Monte Markham again. I don't think I've seen him on TV for about 40 years. Looks great at 81 yrs old.

I agree...definitely a prolific television character over the years. He was in some of my favorite telvisioni series over the years. Oh, I just noticed IMDb.com says he's only 77...still, he looks good for his age.

So what did everyone thing of the big show? So the observers are scientists and future human-like decendants.

Well, according to Neilson not one extra person watched last night's show...not one. I would have thought that an additional 2-3 hundred K would have tuned-in: :(

9 p.m.

CBS: "A Gifted Man" (9 million, 5.9/10)
NBC: "Grimm" (4.8 million, 2.8/5)
ABC: "What Would You Do?" (4.6 million, 3.0/5)
FOX: "Fringe" (3 million, 1.9/3)
The CW: "Supernatural" re-run (1 million, 0.7/1)

Well, according to Neilson not one extra person watched last night's show...not one. I would have thought that an additional 2-3 hundred K would have tuned-in: :(

9 p.m.

CBS: "A Gifted Man" (9 million, 5.9/10)
NBC: "Grimm" (4.8 million, 2.8/5)
ABC: "What Would You Do?" (4.6 million, 3.0/5)
FOX: "Fringe" (3 million, 1.9/3)
The CW: "Supernatural" re-run (1 million, 0.7/1)

I thinks it's way too late for holding any hope of adding viewers. About all they can do is not lose any more. BTW, my math was off on Monte's age.

I've always said that Ufo's are nothing more than Future earth people looking back on us using some kind of time machine. That makes more sense to me than Alien species . A real alien species that can travel with space ships wouldn't waste their time anal probing Earthmen.

Yes, I think we were both right. They are in the same universe and somehow it is coming back to them. Some how it is tied to the injections Olivia has been getting in the head from Nina and the Dynamics corporation. Somehow the injections restored her memories of the universe before Peter entered the machine and changed both worlds. The watchers are also tied to the changes , and possibly helping to orchestrate the changes back to the previous time line of this universe.



Looks like I was right. The watchers or one watcher in particular September, are trying to change the time line back the way it was . Somehow Nina from the other universe is stepping into this one to use the drug on Oliva . For what reasons? I still haven't figured it out. But you see her crossing back to the other universe with the pitted face guy. Makes you go hmmmm.........

Mike, I think the writers are stealing your ideas posted here at SatGuys. You should get a writing credit. ;)

Very good episode. Finally we know who and what the watchers are! I still want more. I am still not satisfied!

Well, we'll have 8 more episodes in which (hopefully) all shall be revealed. It looks as though Fringe, Alcatraz and possibly even Terra Nova will be cancelled. Geez! Since this is the final season for House, other than football I may have no reason to tune-in to FOX next fall.

Bubble Watch FOX: ‘Alcatraz’ Likely Cancelled, ‘Fringe’ Too - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/21/bubble-watch-fox/120726/)

Those shows would be nice to continue on the SyFy channel.

Mike, I think the writers are stealing your ideas posted here at SatGuys. You should get a writing credit. ;)

Same writers stole my Battle star Galactica ending too. I never get any respect or credit.;)

Very good episode. We are finally getting some good info. I too hope that it doesn't get cancelled, but it doesn't look good...

Well, we'll have 8 more episodes in which (hopefully) all shall be revealed. It looks as though Fringe, Alcatraz and possibly even Terra Nova will be cancelled. Geez! Since this is the final season for House, other than football I may have no reason to tune-in to FOX next fall.

Bubble Watch FOX: ‘Alcatraz’ Likely Cancelled, ‘Fringe’ Too - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/21/bubble-watch-fox/120726/)I so agree with you on this!