As you know we just invested a lot of money into the future of SatelliteGuys with a brand new server. With the exception of some small issues the move went very well, and I am happy to report that all of those bugs are fixed.

Not only did we move servers but we also moved ISPs from an ISP in Dallas to an ISP in Michigan.

So now that everything is working I would like your feedback on how things are running....

Thanks for your feedback and support!

I still think there are issues:



Still have the Avatar refresh issue on all of my computers (Must refresh the page in order to get my Avatar to appear after making a post)
The annoying pop-up asking if I am sure I want to leave the page comes up on occasion when I exit one thread to go to another. This message pops up even if I do not enter anything or post anything (just viewing a thread). This never happened prior to the switch
Not an issue, but I prefer the way the old smiley image posted prior to the switch. The smiley windowed stayed opened so you can add as many as you wanted. Now it automatically closes after you click on a smiley you want to add and you have to open the window again in order to post another one

Still getting strange thread icons on the search results page. They are either blanks or up/down arrows on unread threads. After the thread is read, they become normal. See attached

70090

Running noticeably slower for me.

can't see some avatars. when i post it takes me back to the first post of the thread. when i send a pm a get this template remark automatically inserted before a quoted post and after. even after a quick reply is done, what i typed and quoted stays in the box.

can't see some avatars. when i post it takes me back to the first post of the thread. when i send a pm a get this template remark automatically inserted before a quoted post and after. even after a quick reply is done, what i typed and quoted stays in the box.I get the same exact issues.

ETA: Notice the quick reply in the bottom after I post. Keep in mind, I did not type in the quick reply at all. It automatically put my reply to Rey in the quick reply box even though I did not type in it. Also my Avatar image did not appear until I hit refresh

test

ETA: Did this post following my prior post so you can see the Avatar issue. It appears in the prior post because I refreshed the page after that post. This current post it did not appear yet because I have yet to refresh the page

I get the same exact issues.

EAT: Notice the quick reply in the bottom after I post. Keep in mind, I did not type in the quick reply at all. Also my Avatar image did not appear until I hit refresh

The text in your quick reply is because you hit the "reply with quote" button.

I would suggest you clean your browser cache/temp files & cookies related to SG, then restart your browser and log back in.

The text in your quick reply is because you hit the "reply with quote" button.

I would suggest you clean your browser cache/temp files & cookies related to SG, then restart your browser and log back in.I've done that. It still happens on all of my computers both at home and at work.

I've done that. It still happens on all of my computers both at home and at work.yeah same here. done that twice. and the quick reply issue whether we use reply with quote never used to do that.

Still getting strange thread icons on the search results page. They are either blanks or up/down arrows on unread threads. After the thread is read, they become normal. See attached

Thats because someone i wont name added a hack suggested by another member here, then removed it, now the CDN has the old images cache'd, which no longer exists on the server, because the sprite hack is now uninstalled.

yeah same here. done that twice. and the quick reply issue whether we use reply with quote never used to do that.Just cleared everything from my browser and closed it. I even had to sign back into the SG. Let me test this to see if it works

yeah same here. done that twice. and the quick reply issue whether we use reply with quote never used to do that.

It never did what?

Sorry, i cant guess, when there is no detail, so be very descriptive when you want to report something that dont work or something that dont work like it did before the upgrade of the server and then vbulletin last night.

Just cleared everything from my browser and closed it. I even had to sign back into the SG. Let me test this to see if it worksStill the same issue

Still getting strange thread icons on the search results page. They are either blanks or up/down arrows on unread threads. After the thread is read, they become normal. See attached

Fixed

I am wonder if the Cloud Server for Dogerkings area is having an issue?

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Just cleared everything from my browser and closed it. I even had to sign back into the SG. Let me test this to see if it worksStill the same issue.

No avatar image after post is made. Refresh and it reappears, but after refresh my reply is placed in the quick reply box (see both images)

I am wonder if the Cloud Server for Dogerkings area is having an issue?

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Clear its cache, only thing i can say, i dont have access to the CDN, so i cant help & his issue isnt site related.

I just turned off Avatar caching on the cloud servers let me know if this makes a difference.

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I'd guess its more than avatar caching Scott, as he is also doing a refresh and its placing the quoted txt back into the quick reply box.

It never did what?

Sorry, i cant guess, when there is no detail, so be very descriptive when you want to report something that dont work or something that dont work like it did before the upgrade of the server and then vbulletin last night.what i mentioned with dk about the quick reply. forget about it........

I'd guess its more than avatar caching Scott, as he is also doing a refresh and its placing the quoted txt back into the quick reply box.That is the issue. The quote does not appear in the quick reply until I hit refresh. The avatar also does not appear until I hit refresh

test

Same issue

That is the issue. The quote does not appear in the quick reply until I hit refresh. The after also does not appear until I hit refresh

You going to have to clear everything again, as Scott made a change to the CDN caching, i assume you meant "avatar" not "after"?

You going to have to clear everything again, as Scott made a change to the CDN caching, i assume you meant "avatar" not "after"?That damn auto spell correct

on my side i'm only seeing the avatar issue with some members. i can still see most of them.that has to be what anthony mentioned on a post above.

test2

test2test 3

nope. Still no avatar until I hit refresh and hitting refresh still causes the quote to be placed in the quick reply

hitting refresh still causes the quote to be placed in the quick reply that i still see......

nope. Still no avatar until I hit refresh and hitting refresh still causes the quote to be placed in the quick reply

Im guessing user error...... :D

Avatar caching has been re enabled on the CDN cloud servers.

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Scott - Anthony, I know these problems are not your fault, but this new stuff is not user friendly at all.

Scott - Anthony, I know these problems are not your fault, but this new stuff is not user friendly at all.

What is "new stuff"?

Well before this update spell checked worked differently, attachments worked differently, and now when I copy something and paste in a post it looks different.

Well before this update spell checked worked differently, attachments worked differently, and now when I copy something and paste in a post it looks different.

You can blame VBulletin for that idiotic change.

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Well before this update spell checked worked differently, attachments worked differently, and now when I copy something and paste in a post it looks different.

Welcome the vBulletin 4.1.6.

That's why I held off so long in upgrading. But with that said I am really starting to like the new editor. (I hated it at first.)

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To be honest this update to vBulletin stinks, jmho.

Well before this update spell checked worked differently, attachments worked differently, and now when I copy something and paste in a post it looks different.

1. If you want to use the old attachment manager gui, then change it in your usercp settings.

2. Spell check works the same for me regardless of the new editor vb decided to go with, as its controlled from your browser, not the editor.

3. As far as fonts go, you can also override that in your browser, if you dont like what the forum uses.

Welcome the vBulletin 4.1.6.

That's why I held off so long in upgrading. But with that said I am really starting to like the new editor. (I hated it at first.)

Sent from my iPad using The SatelliteGuys app!i like the editor too.......

I don't mind the editor, I've noticed salsadancer7's avatar broken from multiple computers since the switch though. Also Tapatalk is not recognizing threads that I had previously participated in, I had to make a test post in the Revue Review sticky thread for it to remember I've posted in it before. That was the only obvious one.

Tapatalk continues to be behind the functionality offered on other forums as well, on Operationsports I am able to thank (like) posts from the app, and can't here.

Salsa's avatar (page not found when I visit directly): http://vb4.satguys.us/customavatars/avatar6394_37.gif

http://vb4.satguys.us/customavatars/avatar6394_37.gif (http://vb4.satguys.us/customavatars/avatar6394_37.gif)

1. If you want to use the old attachment manager gui, then change it in your usercp settings.

2. Spell check works the same for me regardless of the new editor vb decided to go with, as its controlled from your browser, not the editor.

3. As far as fonts go, you can also override that in your browser, if you dont like what the forum uses.
In the picture I have two things circled in red. Spell Check and the paper clip for attacments. They no longer work, at least for me. As far as what I copy and paste it has changed but even though I do not like it, I can live with it. To me me this update to vBulletin acts and looks like something in beta testing. I have gone into my user cp and tried different setting, I will try again later. For a user like me, these updates to vBulletin should not be this difficult or radical.

I realize I am only one voice, but am sure other folks will not like this mess either. Like I said before, I know it is not yours or Scott's fault, but this new editor stinks in my opinion.;)



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As i posted previously, change the attachment manager gui in your usercp.

Also, that spell check is not part of vbulletin, its a addon for vb 3.5, it shouldnt even be used on this version of vbulletin actually.

As i posted previously, change the attachment manager gui in your usercp.

Also, that spell check is not part of vbulletin, its a addon for vb 3.5, it shouldnt even be used on this version of vbulletin actually.

Got to be honest I thought the spell check was removed a long time ago.

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Anthony, I am not trying to be argumentative. Thank you for your help, but my prior opinion of this vBulletin update remains. I am done discussing this.

Take Care,

Frank

Test from same laptop on a different server (work server)

Same issue. Work server, home server, 4 different desktops, and 2 different laptops all have the same issue.

Test using IE instead of FF

Same issue. Work server, home server, 4 different desktops, and 2 different laptops all have the same issue.

Try uploading a different avatar and then uploading your current one again.

Out of all the thousands of members you are the only one reporting this issue, which makes it hard for us to help since it all appears to be working fine.

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Same issue with IE as with FF. This means it is not the computer, the server, nor the browser.

First image is before refresh (no avatar image) and second is after refresh (repost of comment in quick reply) using IE instead of FF

Try uploading a different avatar and then uploading your current one again.

Out of all the thousands of members you are the only one reporting this issue, which makes it hard for us to help since it all appears to be working fine.

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The thing is others Avatars do the same on my end. They show up as blank until I hit refresh

Test with reloading Avatar

Still the same issue. Oh well. It is not that big of a deal. As long as I can post

Just for the heck of it,
DK do you use an Add Blocker, if so try disabling it. Just a thought.

Ad Blocker likely wouldn't show a broken image like his screenshot shows, but instead a blank spot. My ad blocker hides over a dozen images/flash advertisements on every single page (17 viewing this page of thread) and they're just gone, not broken.

I don't have any problems seeing DK's avatar however: http://vb4.satguys.us/customavatars/avatar94630_16.gif

I (http://vb4.satguys.us/customavatars/avatar94630_16.gif) doubt he'd have the same ad blocker on "Work server, home server, 4 different desktops, and 2 different laptops" and in multiple browsers anyways.

If its blocking 17 thing on this one page it's blocking a lot more then ads. :)

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Blocking the logo, all the gold sponsors, the inline google ads, the flash ads inline with each post and at the top and bottom of the page. Only non-ad it's blocking is the site logo.


It's a much, much cleaner experience. Could probably block a few more unnecessary things like the stars and trophies and a couple of the regions in the footer.

Screenshot: http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=70111&d=1317232223



70111

I am also continuing to get the leaving page warning message as well, "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave...." I get this even if I do not post anything. It is sporadic and does not occur all of the time, but it does occur if I hit the back arrow in the browser or a link to another part of this forum

I am also continuing to get the leaving page warning message as well, "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave...." I get this even if I do not post anything. It is sporadic and does not occur all of the time, but it does occur if I hit the back arrow in the browser or a link to another part of this forum

Next time it happens, stay on the page and see if a space or something has been entered in the quick reply box at the bottom of the screen.

Nothing entered in that box at all

Everything is working great here Scott. It's faster and all the features that I've tried seem to be working. Thanks!!

Just trying the 'edit' function to add that the whole Forum is really quick now.

Just browsing... Site is screaming...

Great I would love to hear more speed reports!

For me I click on a page and the entire thing is loaded instantly... I love it!

Great I would love to hear more speed reports!

For me I click on a page and the entire thing is loaded instantly... I love it!
Same here. It's so fast now, I think stuff shows up BEFORE I click! :eek: :D

Sometimes if I blink at the wrong time I don't see the pages change. Very very fast!:)

SCOTT SPEED IS MUCH FASTER AND BETTER :)

Very fast here.

Nothing entered in that box at all

I've seen it now too and can somewhat reproduce one form of it. Clicking back before the page has completed loading can cause this error to pop up as if you've entered something into the quick reply. Staying on the page shows there's nothing there.

Once it happens, I can click stay on this page, and clicking back it will happen a couple more times. Something on the page finally finishes loading and I can click back without a problem.

The script that detects stuff entered probably loads before the content box of the WYSIWYG, hitting back before the entire editor loads causes the problem IMO.

As for the OP, using Chrome and ad blockers the site was already very very fast, I notice little/no difference.

I think it is much faster than before.

Rendering is noticeably quicker than the old server/host. No issues on my end. :)

no big hurry but at some point can you redefine the satguys banner in the upper left corner? it comes back as "page not found". as I said no hurry I just use it to get back to the home page.

Another thread not listed as participated in tapatalk, Ipad owners thread. Replying fixed it.

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no big hurry but at some point can you redefine the satguys banner in the upper left corner? it comes back as "page not found". as I said no hurry I just use it to get back to the home page.
Fixed. :)

no big hurry but at some point can you redefine the satguys banner in the upper left corner? it comes back as "page not found". as I said no hurry I just use it to get back to the home page.Thank You!! :hail::clap

Another thread not listed as participated in tapatalk, Ipad owners thread. Replying fixed it. I suggest that you try our SatelliteGuys App or ForumRunner. I dont know how much longer we are going to continue supporting Tapatalk.

I suggest that you try our SatelliteGuys App or ForumRunner. I dont know how much longer we are going to continue supporting Tapatalk.

I'd probly just visit the site less then, I'm not interested in having an app for every single website I visit. Why would you stop supporting?

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Their plugin is very buggy on the server end. Plus I am not happy in the direction they are going with their client software where they are starting to nickle and dime folks to do things.

Scott, thanks for your dedication. You must be exhausted. I hope you get some rest soon and Eva recovers quickly. You have my best wishes.

As far as the new editor goes, I'm starting to get used to it. Might even start to like it. :eek: :D (lol) You guys sure have put in a lot of time and effort in this thing and also demonstrated a lot of patients with old dogs like me.

Thanks again,

Frank

It requested proceeded to ask if I wanted to leave the page. On yes, it logged me out. I have been having spurious logouts on many pages wen I leave for part of an hour. Never had this before. It is also not showing my avatar often.
-Ken

It seems that since the server upgrade, I've been having a login issue. Usually when I want to go to on here, I type in the address without the "www" and I can get on here and login just fine. But now, I can't login when I do that. I can still get on to the main page, but I try to login, I get this message:
vBulletin Message Invalid Redirect URL (http://satelliteguys.us/)

So I guess when I have to login on here, I actually have to type in the "www" part now. Not a huge deal as I have the website bookmarked on my laptop, but when I have to use another computer, it can get a little annoying.

Running very noticeably faster here.

Forcing me to login again is probably related to closing my MacBook, which disconnects from the Internet.
This did not happen before--it would accept me again after having closed it all day.
This means it is harder to pick up where you left off unless you login in a different window.
Please go back to the easy-on.
-Ken

It is not due to disconnect. Without sleeping, I am still dropped after sometime less than 3 hours.
This is annoying when it used to be fine.
And it is still dropping the avatar.
-Ken

fast like a bat out of hell. even on this POS PC @ work !

Just got back home from a week long road trip. On my MAC, it's screaming fast.

The speed is really fast. When I went to edit a post I made it wouldn't do anything when I clicked save so I refreshed the page and tried again and it saved it the second time.

The speed is really fast. When I went to edit a post I made it wouldn't do anything when I clicked save so I refreshed the page and tried again and it saved it the second time.

I wonder if pages are being re-served faster than Varnish can cache them if you're using it (saw it mentioned when the site was down the other day in an error message). More likely just vBulletin + browser cache though, or some combination of all of the above.

We are not using Varnish.

Scott, could there be issues with firefox? I find it horribly slow now. I have to click on links twice then hit refresh about 3-5 times in order to get the page to load.

Scott, could there be issues with firefox? I find it horribly slow now. I have to click on links twice then hit refresh about 3-5 times in order to get the page to load. Very doubtful almost 40% of the people here use Firefox. (I use Firefox as well)

Try clearing your cache. :)

No problems using Firefox here. Very quick page loads.:D

No problems with Firefox here as well. Blazing fast!

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I have had trouble getting beyond the "Here we Grow Again" message until today. I couldn't find anything on the web about SG having a problem. Finally I cleared all cookies with the word Satellite in them, cleared my history and cache, rebooted my browser (Opera) and finally I got in. Could someone explain why I had to do all that to get into the new server?
Michael

Whatever caused the issue before are now fixed. No more Avatar issues nor quotes in the quick reply box

Whatever caused the issue before are now fixed. No more Avatar issues nor quotes in the quick reply boxElfen Magic?

No changes on this end.

Glad your fixed though. :)

So now that your fixed hows the speed? :D

Very doubtful almost 40% of the people here use Firefox. (I use Firefox as well)

Try clearing your cache. :)FF 7.0 just came out yesterday as well. This version seems to whip 6.0

Elfen Magic?

No changes on this end.

Glad your fixed though. :)

So now that your fixed hows the speed? :DIt is zippy. I don't know if it is due to FF 7.0 or your new server or both.

So the new server is called clarke.satelliteguys.us, but why does it go the "The List" site when you to in a browser. Also when I do a traceroute, it comes throught as mail.satelliteguys.us.

Josh a server can host many sites on it. When you create a new server it is normal to give the first IP a host name, we did that and the name is clarke.satelliteguys.us which is the servers name. That host name does not have anything to do with any of the sites running on that server but is its main name for the server itself going forward.