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dimitriz
01-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Hi,
I just got a Voom receiver from eBay (about 100mi from my location)
Hooked it up and got to the Installation Wizard. (only had like 30min to play with it)
In installation menu #2 and #3 do not have checkmarks next to them and if I click OK it just drops me to view live TV (ch.100) and gives me message that I have no sat signal.
#4 (Scan Locals) has checkmark next to it.
Also #1 (format mode) briefly flashes 1080i and then displays NATIVE.
Got some more info from receiver:
Software Version 02.4c
Firmware v16
Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
I have a 25" CM3020 antenna outside from which my Dish receiver gets all the locals without any problems, but I cant get Voom to even Aim Off Air Antenna.
The box is activated.
Thanks
puck71
01-26-2006, 01:10 PM
You don't have to do anything with #1 and #2 - what happens when you try to Aim Off Air Antenna?
dimitriz
01-26-2006, 02:00 PM
If I click OK it just goes to view ch.100, that is it.
I dont see the menu that I am suposed to see as this guide suggests:
Darn, I cant post the link, lol, but it's on winnfreenet dot com site
I am going to play around with it some more tonight though.
It's just weird..., might need to try reseating the OTA module. hmmm ?
Shawn95GT
01-26-2006, 02:03 PM
If you have the antenna connected, just run 'scan locals'. It doesnt' matter that it's already checked.
To use the 'aim' feature you have to enter the frequency number then the signal bar will come up.
In PHX Frequency 36 is 12-1. So if I want to check my signal to 12-1, I enter '36' on the aiming screen.
< edit >I see it's just dumping you to 100 when you try - wierd. I'll poke around with mine when I get home< /edit >
dimitriz
01-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Here is more info that I came up with today.
I took the receiver and hooked it up to my big screen and used an CM3020 to test it. (making sure my new LCD+SilverSensor setup was not the issue here).
I tried to go into the installer menu to try running a local channel scan. No go again, as soon as I press OK I get dumped to LiveTV (ch.100)
Even Remote configuration option dumps me to LiveTV.
Next, I tried going through existing "not my locality" local channels and to my surprise I found 3 that actually worked.
My thoughts is that the box needs to be reset, however I do know that resetting it will render it useless. It will probably work just fine if it is returned to original locality where all the channels will work properly.
Any thoughts?
Shawn95GT
01-26-2006, 10:56 PM
I wouldn't reset it - that's all but sure to make a doorstop out of it.
Are you hitting 'ok' in the middle if the directional arrows? (sorry for asking!)
On mine (also 2.4c) hitting ok brings up the scan screen and the scan starts.
Shawn
Shawn95GT
01-27-2006, 02:20 AM
Quick video (with button press overlays) of me doing a channel scan:
http://www.shawnz.com/sg/Voom_scan_locals.wmv
dimitriz
01-27-2006, 07:26 AM
Shawn95GT,
This is pretty much what I do in the video except scan never starts :(
I do hit the OK button that is between the arrows, and I've double checked that it's the only thing that gets pushed down.
On AVS local forum I asked if anyone has Voom receiver that I can cross check mine with, beyond that I am probably going to make a short video of this on Sat.
Hoopnoop
01-27-2006, 10:31 AM
Also, you may want to go into the local channels menu and uncheck any that you might want to see.
I have two Voom boxes and I waited and bought them locally so I at least knew that the locals were all scanned in case I ran into a problem with the scan. But I have the benefit of living in a large metro area.
puck71
01-27-2006, 01:44 PM
How do you have the antenna connected on the back? Did you remove the diplexer?
dimitriz
01-27-2006, 01:49 PM
Also, you may want to go into the local channels menu and uncheck any that you might want to see.
I have two Voom boxes and I waited and bought them locally so I at least knew that the locals were all scanned in case I ran into a problem with the scan. But I have the benefit of living in a large metro area.
I unchecked some, but since the receiver is originally from over 100mi away I only get 3 channels that I can actually watch. only 1 of them is OK, lol.
dimitriz
01-27-2006, 01:52 PM
How do you have the antenna connected on the back? Did you remove the diplexer?
Yeah, I removed the diplexer and have the antenna hooked up directly to the OTA module. The only other thing hooked up is a S-Video cable.
dimitriz
01-30-2006, 07:24 AM
Well, it's definitely the box.
I've gotten ahold of another box this weekend and that one works properly.
Looks like this box will work just fine as long as it stays in the area it was initially activated in.
Kandiru
01-30-2006, 06:25 PM
He bought it from me guys, Hi Dimitriz.
The fact that you got 3 OTA channels to work means that it already scanned.
I agree that the menus are not very logical.
Do not reset it please. Watch Shawn95GTs video please.
I hope the others input helped and i hope you dont regret your purchase. Really it wil work in any area as long as the digital stations are within range. People have been selling these from coast to coast all here will agree that an activated VOOM box from California will work in New York.
Please dont hesitate to email me with any other questions. In the end if you are not satisfied put it up on ebay, it will sell fast.
Kan
Kandiru
01-30-2006, 10:14 PM
Oh, Dimitriz i dont know what "diplexer" u removed but there is only one 8VPSB(or something like that) module that should not be removed.
dimitriz
01-31-2006, 08:02 AM
Hey Kandiru, :)
1st of all dont worry., I aint going to give you a neg. feedback.
In the worst case if I cant get this receiver running it's going to be donated to the "project".
I've followed these instruction which are the same as video that you mentioned.
Search for winnfreenet voom guide as I cant post direct URL here...
(OK, why in the hell can I NOT post the damn URLs??? I've got more then 5 posts already..grrr..)
You can see in the guide the diplexer being removed. (gray box that joins Sat+OTA)
I have straight antenna connection so no need for it.
(Antenna picks up about 30 channels on my Dish HD OTA receiver and the same on my MCE HDTV box)
The glitch is when I get to the Installation Steps menu.
If I select 3 or 4 (heck even 6) it does not scan. I get kicked out of the menu completely. The 3 channels that I am lucky to pick up are on the same frequency that were already scanned in the box previously.
The glitch is when I get to the Installation Steps menu.
If I select 3 or 4 (heck even 6) it does not scan. I get kicked out of the menu completely. Oh I remember this bug! "The Dreaded Wizard Trap!"
The only solution to it was a factory reset followed by the box reactivation via VOOM customer support. Unfortunately it is no longer possible to reactivate the box, so I am afraid you might be stuck with that... :(
dimitriz
02-02-2006, 08:00 AM
Oh I remember this bug! "The Dreaded Wizard Trap!"
The only solution to it was a factory reset followed by the box reactivation via VOOM customer support. Unfortunately it is no longer possible to reactivate the box, so I am afraid you might be stuck with that... :(
Thanks Ilya!
Exactly what I thought was the problem and what I'd have to do resolve it.
To bad I'll get to watch only 3 channels on it, lol
notny41
02-06-2006, 04:21 PM
www.antennaweb.org will tell you which exact direction your antenna should be pointed. Then you don't need to worry about aiming it.
I had little to no luck with an indoor antenna. I got a cheap outdoor at home depot and aimed it and threw on a 12 db amplifier (no diplexor) and mine pulls in 21 locals perfectly clear. I am also in a metro area but it is awesome!
Gotta do the channel scan though once you have the antenna up correctly. Also, like someone else also said make sure the "Hide" feature is not stuck on the channels you want to be able to watch. But I thought when you do a scan, whatever it finds comes up in "unhidden" status.
You are never going to get away from the 100-999 channels as they are the satellite ones and you can't get rid of them nor can you hide them. But once your locals are scanned in you can use your remote channel up and down to stay within your locals and not have to get up into the satellite channels. (small price to pay for cheap good-quality HDTV in my opinion)
P
wallypa
03-07-2006, 12:59 PM
Hopefully this is not off-topic, but if it is I apologize. Anyway, I have the old voom stb and I hooked it up to my 27" hdtv ready lcd screen that I just bought. My question is: when you go to the system menu and aim the antenna, is there a certain frequency number I need to use specific to my location? Or do I just kind of play around with it until I get the highest signal. Appreciate any feedbacks.
Hoopnoop
03-07-2006, 05:30 PM
Wally,
You just need to make sure your antenna is hooked up to the Voom receiver and that it is pointed in the right direction. Then you do the scan and should pick up channels if you are set up right. Then you can go into the system menu and hide or unhide the channels that you want to be able to have access to.
wallypa
03-07-2006, 10:37 PM
Wally,
You just need to make sure your antenna is hooked up to the Voom receiver and that it is pointed in the right direction. Then you do the scan and should pick up channels if you are set up right. Then you can go into the system menu and hide or unhide the channels that you want to be able to have access to.
Hey Hoop thanks for the info. But let me ask you this question then. So I really don't need to go to option 3 (Aim Off Air Antenna) in the installation wizard, you know where there is a box call RF and and the signal strength meter? What is that for then? What I have been doing is play around with different RFs starting with 2 and I then scan the channels (option 4) when I get the meter to go past 80-85. You know what I'm talking about right?.
Well, let me know. Thanks a lot.
Wally
lilyarbie
03-07-2006, 11:47 PM
The aiming screen is for zeroing in on stations that you can receive from your DMA or from other DMA. Using the aiming screen can fine-tune your antenna for the best reception of one or all of the channels you want to receive. For example, if you receive multiple channels in one direction (East, West, North, South) then you might want to aim in the best area of this direction in order to get the best signal quality overall out of those channels without having to move your antenna constantly by hand. If you are in the position to receive channels from more than one market (DMA) then you might consider the rotator option. The antenna aiming screen best comes into play with this option. Depending upon how far away the signal in, the slightest angle turn can give you anywhere between not enough signal and just enough signal. I have done this with multiple stations to get the best performance out of my equipment. For example, I can turn my rotator to the exact angle of where I get the best signal quality, signal strength, and signal-to-noise ratio. If that particular channel is around 100 miles away, then just 1 degree turn means the difference between watchable and not enough signal.
In my situation, the antenna aiming screen has been a great reference for my rotator since I can get channels from 3 DMA's (channel markets).
wallypa
03-08-2006, 10:43 AM
Thanks lilyarbie. Appreciate the info.
wally
issasteve
04-02-2006, 11:26 PM
I am thinking about buying a Voom for OTA..ebay guy is selling them for $40. I just want it for OTA must the receiver be activated for it to do this function? Is something too good to be true really untrue in this case?
Tanks alot
I am thinking about buying a Voom for OTA..ebay guy is selling them for $40. I just want it for OTA must the receiver be activated for it to do this function? Is something too good to be true really untrue in this case?
Tanks alot
Yes, the receiver must be activated. Otherwise it will not be able to tune to OTA channels. If the seller cannot guarantee that receiver can tune to OTA channels, do not buy it!
wallypa
04-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Ilya: Even if the Voom receiver was activated, but for a different geographical region, let's say activated in California, will this same receiver work in the mid-west, or in the east coast? Just curious. Thanks.
Yes it will. Assuming it has firmware version 6.10 or above with channel scanning capability. All receivers that stayed active when VOOM DBS went down, have channel scanning.
Of course ideal situation is when you get a box that was activated in your DMA. Then all channels are already there and you do not need to scan anything.
riffjim4069
04-04-2006, 11:52 AM
Personally, I would stay away from boxes with 6.10 and 6.20 - too many mapping problems.
Personally, I would stay away from boxes with 6.10 and 6.20 - too many mapping problems.I agree. Though it's very unlikely that an activated receiver would have a firmware that old. If the box stayed active and connected to the dish till the last day it should have the latest firmware which is 07.37 (aka Nep. 737, aka Software Version 2.4C).
Jimly
04-23-2006, 02:08 PM
I bought a Voom receiver on Ebay for receiving OTA HDTV. It appears to have firmware V16, and though activated, apparently does not include the Wizard for finding stations. Can anybody help me on getting it to work? (It picks up one local station, on 4.1, that should be coming in on 2.1.) Thanks!
snaggerbob
04-23-2006, 08:38 PM
Try hitting the Voom Button then the green button twice. This will let you into the installer menu #7 I believe. Highlight #7 and hit ok. This will take you to scan for local stations #4 I think. Hit ok and see what happens. Do you have an antenna set up to pull in any local stations? It should be pointed towards your antenna farm. www.atennaweb.org wil help you with that. Let me know if this helps.
dsmith68
04-24-2006, 09:09 PM
I just received a Voom HD tuner but without a remote. Can I do the scanning without the remote? Thanks
snaggerbob
04-25-2006, 07:21 AM
I don't think so. I have an extra remote if you are interested. PM me if you do. $5 plus shipping.
Jimly
04-27-2006, 05:48 PM
SnaggerBob -- thanks for the tip on scanning for local channels. I think I must have an out-of-date software/firmware set on my Voom box -- it picks up one channel (4-1) with my antenna, but it's really the feed from what should be 2-1 here in my local market. I hit green button twice but can't get to scan for locals anywhere. Thanks,
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