It's not that they're going to add a "gay channel". They can pander to whomever they like. What offends me is they're not sufficiently pandering to ME, your average straight guy. For example, I was watching an Ultra Eye show on Brazil. Guys what do you think of when you hear Brazil? I think of babes and beaches, and adventures in the rain forest. Instead, all I saw was restaurants and some clubs with middle aged people dancing demurely. I mean, WTF? It's like going on some kind of tour for little old church ladies, where they make sure you won't run into anything that might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Now maybe I missed some good stuff in the beginning (I caught the tail end of it), but this is pretty typical of the programming on their exclusives (minus MonstersHD). Pretty staid and boring. I feel like I'm watching PBS and not a commercial network (except PBS has more interesting subjects). There's just an overall lack of energy and pizzazz. Take for example, Travels in Europe with Max Rudy on PBS. A bald middle aged guy giving you a tour of Europe. But he's knowledgable, engaging, and interesting, and you feel like you're really touring the places he shows you and not just making random drops in spots that could be anywhere.

And you know, a little shameless pandering ain't gonna kill you, Voom. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME MONEY HERE! Put on stuff like Hdnet's Hotlines or Bikini Destinations. No don't tell me to subscribe to Playboy. I think there's a huge middle ground to cover between staid / boring and explicit porn.

I agree---

Too much fru-fru stuff and not enough oooomph ooooomph stuff------

It's not that they're going to add a "gay channel". They can pander to whomever they like. What offends me is they're not sufficiently pandering to ME, your average straight guy. For example, I was watching an Ultra Eye show on Brazil. Guys what do you think of when you hear Brazil? I think of babes and beaches, and adventures in the rain forest. Instead, all I saw was restaurants and some clubs with middle aged people dancing demurely. I mean, WTF? It's like going on some kind of tour for little old church ladies, where they make sure you won't run into anything that might offend your delicate sensibilities.

Now maybe I missed some good stuff in the beginning (I caught the tail end of it), but this is pretty typical of the programming on their exclusives (minus MonstersHD). Pretty staid and boring. I feel like I'm watching PBS and not a commercial network (except PBS has more interesting subjects). There's just an overall lack of energy and pizzazz. Take for example, Travels in Europe with Max Rudy on PBS. A bald middle aged guy giving you a tour of Europe. But he's knowledgable, engaging, and interesting, and you feel like you're really touring the places he shows you and not just making random drops in spots that could be anywhere.

And you know, a little shameless pandering ain't gonna kill you, Voom. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME MONEY HERE! Put on stuff like Hdnet's Hotlines or Bikini Destinations. No don't tell me to subscribe to Playboy. I think there's a huge middle ground to cover between staid / boring and explicit porn.AMen Brother! Bikini destinations Where is it?

I often wonder who they are targeting for subs?

1. only city dwellers because of the obvious OTA locals by antenna
2. rich city dwellers due to gallery, auction, ultra
3. The kids of rich city dwellers with RUSH, rave etc.
4. Rich city dweller transplants from europe who want soccer 24/7
5. rich city dwelling gays - DIvineHD

where are the feeds for us average white men? Thanks for Espnhd but we need some skin and more sports in HD! I got news for them, if they want to grow they need to signup Joe sixpack, he far outnumbers Frasier Crane, and that HD set is now in his price range.

I agree---

Too much fru-fru stuff and not enough oooomph ooooomph stuff------

I agree with your agreement :yes

-Chris

AMen Brother! Bikini destinations Where is it?

I often wonder who they are targeting for subs?

1. only city dwellers because of the obvious OTA locals by antenna
2. rich city dwellers due to gallery, auction, ultra
3. The kids of rich city dwellers with RUSH, rave etc.
4. Rich city dweller transplants from europe who want soccer 24/7
5. rich city dwelling gays - DIvineHD

where are the feeds for us average white men? Thanks for Espnhd but we need some skin and more sports in HD! I got news for them, if they want to grow they need to signup Joe sixpack, he far outnumbers Frasier Crane, and that HD set is now in his price range.

GREAT POINT! :clap Voom seems to have created a strategy that the whole country is just like NYC. None of these channels appeal to regular dudes in places like Iowa and Arizona. It makes you wonder if they know what the rest of the country's like. Some of these executives should take a trip to "That little place between NY and California called America"--Ned Flanders

Hey, it's all our own fault.

We all knew the parent company is called Rainbow!

Does that sound middle of the road white guy to you?

I would suggest spike tv. I think there is plenty of programming. It's like standing in the middle of the river and dying of thirst(great country song). Also, the divine channel does not prevent you from receiving programming you require.

ya i agree totally.

Voom's vision is limited to NYC. from fashion shows to weath tv.

:) So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?

Dating your Cousin channel?

wouldnt that be the Jerry Springer show? :D

:) So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?

I'ld be happy with real epics on epics, good patriotic war movies, action/adventure fare, Errol Flynn movies (no comments about that other channel), blood, guts, honor, etc.

Oh and a SciFi/Fantasy themed movie channel wouldn't hurt, and could keep monsters focused on monsters.

:) So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?
A voom original channel where 3 hot babes in bikinis visit exotic places in HD so we can drool like people who have HDnet can drool.

What about putting Jess Alexander in one on the red couch? Or an HDN news babe in one?

I'ld be happy with real epics on epics, good patriotic war movies, action/adventure fare, Errol Flynn movies (no comments about that other channel), blood, guts, honor, etc.

Oh and a SciFi/Fantasy themed movie channel wouldn't hurt, and could keep monsters focused on monsters.

Sounds good to me. How about Merrie Melodies, Tom & Jerry, GI Joe and the real Transformers on Animania? Cartoon violence is what makes boys grow up to be "regular" guys. Also Batman and X-Men cartoons circa 1990. If I want to watch He-Man or Thundercats, then I'll have to flip over to DIVINE ;)

If I want to watch He-Man or Thundercats, then I'll have to flip over to DIVINE ;)

Ouch... :)

GREAT POINT! :clap Voom seems to have created a strategy that the whole country is just like NYC. None of these channels appeal to regular dudes in places like Iowa and Arizona. It makes you wonder if they know what the rest of the country's like. Some of these executives should take a trip to "That little place between NY and California called America"--Ned Flanders
Hey ...Im living in NY and those ch's dont interest me....and most NYers arent rich by any means. Try living here. Everyone I know has to have tthree paychecks coming in to survive. Im not saying there isnt posh and nosh people here in NY, but most people are just getting by. We might make alot of money when you compare it to other places...but the cost of living here is killing us slowly. I love NY but I feel sorry for my kids and the kids of others that wont have a pot to piss in for their whole lives. Semi attached homes by me are going for 450,000 - 600,000. Nobody has that kind of cash....we in NY are in debt for the most part. Those ch's dont appeal to us.

If I want to watch He-Man or Thundercats, then I'll have to flip over to DIVINE ;)

Dude, the Thundercats could kick Batman's ass any day of the week. Batman is just some regular guy with toys. The Thundercats had magical swords, and were alien cat people who look like Ah-nold. No contest. :D

I guess, AMC, IFC, WE, FUSE, 50% of FSN, HBO, (who they created and sold), BRAVO (who they created and sold) are also reflecting NYC style of channels. Rainbow is an entity based in NYC but their ties go beyond NYC. You could not imagined how vast their network is. Just do a search on the internet and you will find all various links and networks that they are connected to.

We all like to think what will be my ideal channel and what's my preference. That's fine but please do not trash their channels like they are completly trash. Tell me of someone else who is trying to do this. There is no original programming out there that you can go and buy on a store. Most HD programs have to be produced by the entity trying to show the HD programs. There's no HD store to go and buy Bikini Destination. Mark has to paid to shoot in HD this original programming. VOOM has to do the same. It is not cheap to do this. I appreciate every single HD program I see because I know how much it is involved. You might think differently and you have a right to think this way. This is my own opinion.

I guess, AMC, IFC, WE, FUSE, 50% of FSN, HBO, (who they created and sold), BRAVO (who they created and sold) are also reflecting NYC style of channels. Rainbow is an entity based in NYC but their ties go beyond NYC. You could not imagined how vast their network is. Just do a search on the internet and you will find all various links and networks that they are connected to.

We all like to think what will be my ideal channel and what's my preference. That's fine but please do not trash their channels like they are completly trash. Tell me of someone else who is trying to do this. There is no original programming out there that you can go and buy on a store. Most HD programs have to be produced by the entity trying to show the HD programs. There's no HD store to go and buy Bikini Destination. Mark has to paid to shoot in HD this original programming. VOOM has to do the same. It is not cheap to do this. I appreciate every single HD program I see because I know how much it is involved. You might think differently and you have a right to think this way. This is my own opinion.None of those channels (AMC, IFC, WE, FUSE, 50% of FSN, HBO, or BRAVO are Voom exclusives. I think the arguement is that Voom has created exclusive channels for very small groups but is missing the vast majority of the population. If you can invest in HD skateboarding, sailing, windsurfing, YAWWWWNNNNNNNN. Why not invest in making HD Bikini content? It will bring in more viewers than the artsy rich, the gay channel, extreme bicycle sports or euro soccer. I get the impression that Dolan looked at HDnet, knew hed never get it and created these exclusives to duplicate that content. But the man went overboard on the movies and left out some key elements. A bikini destination type channel and INHD for some HD sports would complete Vooms offerings. I just dont understand how you leave out the basic element of selling anything.. females in skimpy outfits. Just go look at the traffic at your local Hooters

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I often wonder who they are targeting for subs?

1. only city dwellers because of the obvious OTA locals by antenna
2. rich city dwellers due to gallery, auction, ultra
3. The kids of rich city dwellers with RUSH, rave etc.
4. Rich city dweller transplants from europe who want soccer 24/7
5. rich city dwelling gays - DIvineHD
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Thanks vurbano for some info about yourself. Now I know who you are not. :D

Thanks vurbano for some info about yourself. Now I know who you are not. :D
How does that analysis of Voom tell you what I am or what I am not.

So now HD Bikini appeals to the entire population of the U.S.; to each its own. Whether HD Bikini is there or not, to me makes no difference. I am sorry to say that I disagree with that logic. You do not have to be rich to appraciate Art. You do not have to rich to appreciate Skateboarding, surfing and extre sports. You do not have to be rich to appreciate Soccer. Yo do not have to be rich to appreciate Animania. You guys are very confused. Take a look at each channel theme. If you do not like the content on the channel, I agree about that but these channels are just appeals to the rich and famous --- to extreme logic for me to understand. Not the case...

<<Sean: We all like to think what will be my ideal channel and what's my preference. That's fine but please do not trash their channels like they are completly trash. Tell me of someone else who is trying to do this. There is no original programming out there that you can go and buy on a store. Most HD programs have to be produced by the entity trying to show the HD programs. There's no HD store to go and buy Bikini Destination. Mark has to paid to shoot in HD this original programming. VOOM has to do the same. It is not cheap to do this. I appreciate every single HD program I see because I know how much it is involved. You might think differently and you have a right to think this way. This is my own opinion.>>

I know that, Sean. I defended the Moovlab people when someone was ragging on them. I know it takes people, money, and effort to produce programming, which is why it baffles me that a broadcaster like Voom would have so much content with such limitted appeal. Seems to me Ultra, Gallery, and Auction should be combined into one channel. I mean, I'm a computer/electronics nut but if Voom produced one HD channel devoted to PC, one to electronics, one to video games, I would be saying WTF? It's not a specific type of programming, it's the preponderance of it seemingly in exclusion to other types of programming with potentially wider appeal. And now it looks like Voom may add WealthTV, making their lineup even more skewed.

<<Mr Biggies: So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?>>

Well you have a smiley there, so I'm sure you were kidding, but anyway in my universe most people aren't living in either high society or the trailer park.

Think this way too. AMC, IFC, WE, HBO, BRAVO when they first started, started as exclusives to a particular cable company or industry. They did not become national channels immediately. These 21 propietary channels are going to evolve to something that everyone will appreciate (whether in their original form or in another form or through other changes). I will not be surprised if they start selling these nationally as well at some point in the future. Do I think they are ready for that? not yet.

But take Monsters. Monsters as much as we like it, it's not ready to be sold as a separate entity nationally. Monsters needs more content.

...I think the arguement is that Voom has created exclusive channels for very small groups but is missing the vast majority of the population. If you can invest in HD skateboarding, sailing, windsurfing, YAWWWWNNNNNNNN. Why not invest in making HD Bikini content? It will bring in more viewers than the artsy rich, the gay channel, extreme bicycle sports or euro soccer. ..

Voom members represent a very small group indeed. Joe six-pack cannot tell the difference between SD and HD and doesn't own an HD display. vurbano, why do you want to cater to a group that is not even interested in Voom and HD? I am not a Joe six-pack, and my interests are different from his. And I am not living in NYC.

<<Sean: We all like to think what will be my ideal channel and what's my preference. That's fine but please do not trash their channels like they are completly trash. Tell me of someone else who is trying to do this. There is no original programming out there that you can go and buy on a store. Most HD programs have to be produced by the entity trying to show the HD programs. There's no HD store to go and buy Bikini Destination. Mark has to paid to shoot in HD this original programming. VOOM has to do the same. It is not cheap to do this. I appreciate every single HD program I see because I know how much it is involved. You might think differently and you have a right to think this way. This is my own opinion.>>

I know that, Sean. I defended the Moovlab people when someone was ragging on them. I know it takes people, money, and effort to produce programming, which is why it baffles me that a broadcaster like Voom would have so much content with such limitted appeal. Seems to me Ultra, Gallery, and Auction should be combined into one channel. I mean, I'm a computer/electronics nut but if Voom produced one HD channel devoted to PC, one to electronics, one to video games, I would be saying WTF? It's not a specific type of programming, it's the preponderance of it seemingly in exclusion to other types of programming with potentially wider appeal. And now it looks like Voom may add WealthTV, making their lineup even more skewed.

<<Mr Biggies: So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?>>

Well you have a smiley there, so I'm sure you were kidding, but anyway in my universe most people aren't living in either high society or the trailer park.


I agree with your assessment. But think about this. These channels are all experimental channels that may not make it in their original form or will be changing in content or like you said in combination with others. Wealth Tv is another experiment. How will a channel stick if it has appeals. Programmers know this and they will make the programming evolve into something completly different if they have to. I have yet to see a release that Wealth Tv is coming to VOOM. There's has been a lot of speculations about it. So it is not even worth to talk about it yet unless it becomes a reality. Yet again, I have not seen the content on Wealth Tv to trash it either.

How does that analysis of Voom tell you what I am or what I am not.

I am guessing that you do not belong to any of the groups that you mentioned in your criticisms of Voom, namely:

1. only city dwellers because of the obvious OTA locals by antenna
2. rich city dwellers due to gallery, auction, ultra
3. The kids of rich city dwellers with RUSH, rave etc.
4. Rich city dweller transplants from europe who want soccer 24/7
5. rich city dwelling gays - DIvineHD

<<Sean: We all like to think what will be my ideal channel and what's my preference. That's fine but please do not trash their channels like they are completly trash. Tell me of someone else who is trying to do this. There is no original programming out there that you can go and buy on a store. Most HD programs have to be produced by the entity trying to show the HD programs. There's no HD store to go and buy Bikini Destination. Mark has to paid to shoot in HD this original programming. VOOM has to do the same. It is not cheap to do this. I appreciate every single HD program I see because I know how much it is involved. You might think differently and you have a right to think this way. This is my own opinion.>>

I know that, Sean. I defended the Moovlab people when someone was ragging on them. I know it takes people, money, and effort to produce programming, which is why it baffles me that a broadcaster like Voom would have so much content with such limitted appeal. Seems to me Ultra, Gallery, and Auction should be combined into one channel. I mean, I'm a computer/electronics nut but if Voom produced one HD channel devoted to PC, one to electronics, one to video games, I would be saying WTF? It's not a specific type of programming, it's the preponderance of it seemingly in exclusion to other types of programming with potentially wider appeal. And now it looks like Voom may add WealthTV, making their lineup even more skewed.

<<Mr Biggies: So what are you guys looking for? The Tractor channel? Mobile Home Beautiful channel? Dating your Cousin channel?>>

Well you have a smiley there, so I'm sure you were kidding, but anyway in my universe most people aren't living in either high society or the trailer park.As more subscribers use Voom, it will change to survive. Their first advertising company blew it. Hopefully the 2nd one will suggest some common sense.

BTW Andrzej

I live in the City, in the Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton, Virginia Beach area. In fact it is one of the largest technological, militarily strategic areas in the world. Langley Air Force Base, NASA/Norfolk Naval facility/ Newport News Shipbuilding facilities. The home of the our atlantic tactical air defense system, carrier and nuclear sub building, tacticle air command , CEBAF (continuous electron beam acceleration facility) etc. We have museums and Civil war sites and even indoor plumbing. Imagine that. On occasion the President even pays us a visit and stays over at the Williamsburg Inn.

This area is far from PODUNK friday night tractor pull material. But if Voom refuses to listen to the average user it is doomed.

Voom members represent a very small group indeed. Joe six-pack cannot tell the difference between SD and HD and doesn't own an HD display. vurbano, why do you want to cater to a group that is not even interested in Voom and HD? I am not a Joe six-pack, and my interests are different from his. And I am not living in NYC.wow you are so wrong. Joe sixpack is throwin up dishes faster than wild fire in this area. Hes married to Mrs Six pack who also works and they see that 1500 dollar HD 47" RPTV at best buy. But I guess youd rather they become D* users? HOW ARROGANT TOO ASS U ME THAT JOE SIXPAVK CANNOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE. I got news for you. "if joesixpack does NOT buy HD sets then HD will die!!!!!!!!!"

I am guessing that you do not belong to any of the groups that you mentioned in your criticisms of Voom, namely:

1. only city dwellers because of the obvious OTA locals by antenna
2. rich city dwellers due to gallery, auction, ultra
3. The kids of rich city dwellers with RUSH, rave etc.
4. Rich city dweller transplants from europe who want soccer 24/7
5. rich city dwelling gays - DIvineHDyou guess wrong. Im just not narrow minded and interested in seeing Voom survive.

.. HOW ARROGANT TOO ASS U ME THAT JOE SIXPAVK CANNOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE. I got news for you. "if joesixpack does NOT buy HD sets then HD will die!!!!!!!!!"

This time I am not assuming anything - it is a fact.

And yes, Joe is getting D* rather than Voom. It is also a fact.

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BTW Andrzej

I live in the City, in the Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton, Virginia Beach area. In fact it is one of the largest technological, militarily strategic areas in the world. Langley Air Force Base, NASA/Norfolk Naval facility/ Newport News Shipbuilding facilities. The home of the our atlantic tactical air defense system, carrier and nuclear sub building, tacticle air command , CEBAF (continuous electron beam acceleration facility) etc. We have museums and Civil war sites and even indoor plumbing. Imagine that. On occasion the President even pays us a visit and stays over at the Williamsburg Inn.
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Congratulation vurbano! Especially on the indoor plumbing front! :)

How does that analysis of Voom tell you what I am or what I am not.
A man in need of some female companionship is what I gather from your post-LMAO

You go to sleep and wake up to a maelstrom. My position:

1. I wasn't insulting NYC. I know that most folks there are regular people who just happen to talk funny :)

2. Art, fashion, and museum faire may be open to the masses, but their patrons are predominantly rich and urban.

3. Like Vurbano, my problem is with Voom exclusives. The only obvious male channel is Rush, but that's more for teenagers than 40 year olds. Voom doesn't have anything like Bikini destinations (PB isn't the same thing), programming clearly aimed at males 18-45.

4. With it's lineup as of 6/1, Voom exclusives will be very solid in programming for homosexuals, metrosexuals, rich ladies who like fashion and art, guys marrieds to those ladies, young women interested in gay and esoteric lifestyles. Yes, many outside of these groups like the Voom exclusives. But the groups listed will be very taken care of.

5. Joe Sixpack isn't an idiot. The majority of people in this country know what an HDTV is. But Joe doesn't care about fashion, art, museum exhibits, and alternative lifestyles. He likes cold beer and Jerry Bruckheimer movies and tv shows. He likes to see a little skin, but no nudity in the daytime at least. He doesn't like soccer unless he's watching his kid's game. He also doesn't like seeing washed up musicians and hip-hoppers performing. He may like music, but he doesn't care for concerts. The only thing the Voom exclusives offer him are the movie channels. But the current selection is so bad, he'll never watch them.

I don't really see how you guys can argue that Voom hasn't ignored the average guy. Some of you bigots might need me to put this in your language, so here goes:
What programming is provided by the Voom exclusives for stupid inbred hillbillies to watch between NASCAR races and front yard car repair?

Voom may think this demographic is already well served, and aim Voom originals towards what it perceives as under served demographics. My problem with this is that all demographics are under served when it comes to HD programming.

You go to sleep and wake up to a maelstrom. My position:

1. I wasn't insulting NYC. I know that most folks there are regular people who just happen to talk funny :)

2. Art, fashion, and museum faire may be open to the masses, but their patrons are predominantly rich and urban.

3. Like Vurbano, my problem is with Voom exclusives. The only obvious male channel is Rush, but that's more for teenagers than 40 year olds. Voom doesn't have anything like Bikini destinations (PB isn't the same thing), programming clearly aimed at males 18-45.

4. With it's lineup as of 6/1, Voom exclusives will be very solid in programming for homosexuals, metrosexuals, rich ladies who like fashion and art, guys marrieds to those ladies, young women interested in gay and esoteric lifestyles. Yes, many outside of these groups like the Voom exclusives. But the groups listed will be very taken care of.

5. Joe Sixpack isn't an idiot. The majority of people in this country know what an HDTV is. But Joe doesn't care about fashion, art, museum exhibits, and alternative lifestyles. He likes cold beer and Jerry Bruckheimer movies and tv shows. He likes to see a little skin, but no nudity in the daytime at least. He doesn't like soccer unless he's watching his kid's game. He also doesn't like seeing washed up musicians and hip-hoppers performing. He may like music, but he doesn't care for concerts. The only thing the Voom exclusives offer him are the movie channels. But the current selection is so bad, he'll never watch them.

I don't really see how you guys can argue that Voom hasn't ignored the average guy. Some of you bigots might need me to put this in your language, so here goes:
What programming is provided by the Voom exclusives for stupid inbred hillbillies to watch between NASCAR races and front yard car repair?

Voom may think this demographic is already well served, and aim Voom originals towards what it perceives as under served demographics. My problem with this is that all demographics are under served when it comes to HD programming.
I agree, thankgoodness a man of intellect has joined the discussion today. IMO Vooms numbers have soared this past month due to the inclusion of what average male network?

one guess please?

I agree, thankgoodness a man of intellect has joined the discussion today. IMO Vooms numbers have soared this past month due to the inclusion of what average male network?

one guess please?
Divine???????-LMAO

eschu get off your dads computer..lmao

eschu get off your dads computer..lmao
Not the one fixated on "Tanya's breasts" and "Bikini Destinations".(Oh, is that what they mean by a mid-life crisis?)-LMAO


Oh, and how about a "constructive" post Mister "constructivity?"-LMAO

Every time you guys argue the tune from The Odd Couple plays in my mind. :) Good jokes :clap

Every time you guys argue the tune from The Odd Couple plays in my mind. :) Good jokes :clap
Dum de dum de dum....dum de dum dum de dum-LOL

Joe Sixpack isn't an idiot. The majority of people in this country know what an HDTV is. But Joe doesn't care about fashion, art, museum exhibits, and alternative lifestyles. He likes cold beer and Jerry Bruckheimer movies and tv shows. He likes to see a little skin, but no nudity in the daytime at least. He doesn't like soccer unless he's watching his kid's game. He also doesn't like seeing washed up musicians and hip-hoppers performing. He may like music, but he doesn't care for concerts. The only thing the Voom exclusives offer him are the movie channels. But the current selection is so bad, he'll never watch them.


How much more right can this man be. Amen Brotha.

Not the one fixated on "Tanya's breasts" and "Bikini Destinations".(Oh, is that what they mean by a mid-life crisis?)-LMAO


Oh, and how about a "constructive" post Mister "constructivity?"-LMAOGod I miss tanyas taa taas

I'd just like to say that vurbano and cyuhnke are by far my favorite posters :D

This time I am not assuming anything - it is a fact.

And yes, Joe is getting D* rather than Voom. It is also a fact.


I am Joe Sixpack. I had to save up for a year to buy my HDTV. I had D*, dumped it for Voom. I couldn't care less that V* is adding Divine. I will watch for movies that interst me. I am sure there will be one or two. On the other hand, the first channels I memorized the number to, were SpikeTV, OLN and and speed. Not any of the HD exclusives. All three center around guys stuff for the most part. I just wish they were in HD. Hopefuly OLN-HD will be added quickly. Everyone in my family is Joe Sixpack, of my 5 brothers and sisters, 4 have HDTV's and now have V*. All have commented that the HD programming seems geard towards rich people and thier kids.

I'd just like to say that vurbano and cyuhnke are by far my favorite posters :D

Thank you all, I aim to please :) I'm looking at your equipment list. How are you supporting yourself through school? Are you one of those guys who steals people's kidneys? :lick

Thank you all, I aim to please :) I'm looking at your equipment list. How are you supporting yourself through school? Are you one of those guys who steals people's kidneys? :lick

Not just kidneys, but spare testicles and pinky toes SNIP! SNIP! >=]

I should actually change my profile because I'm now an official UC Davis graduate now! 2 majors to boot!

However, I did pay for all of that while going through school. I earned a lot of credit early on and its amazing what you can buy on 24 months no interest financing! I was working 30 hours a week during school and full time in the summers as a department manager for a drug store, so I had some spare cash. I'm also one hell of a bargain hunter! Next comes law school!

5. Joe Sixpack isn't an idiot. The majority of people in this country know what an HDTV is. But Joe doesn't care about fashion, art, museum exhibits, and alternative lifestyles. He likes cold beer and Jerry Bruckheimer movies and tv shows. He likes to see a little skin, but no nudity in the daytime at least. He doesn't like soccer unless he's watching his kid's game. He also doesn't like seeing washed up musicians and hip-hoppers performing. He may like music, but he doesn't care for concerts. The only thing the Voom exclusives offer him are the movie channels. But the current selection is so bad, he'll never watch them.

I guess I'm Joe Sixpack, because this describes me very well. The movies on Cinema 9 are awful. I mean really: Flug Tag and ice cream melting? That's someone's idea of great programming? Honestly, they could drop all the exclusives except monsters and I wouldn't notice. If they did that and added RSNs I'd be SUPER happy. Wait, then it'd be D*. Hmmmm...:eureka

I want to know what is the age group / range for people who like the Voom Exclusives. To me..they havent showed anything that would interest anyone under 25. I don't know how to do a poll but if someone can help me do one..it would be cool.

I guess I'm Joe Sixpack, because this describes me very well. The movies on Cinema 9 are awful. I mean really: Flug Tag and ice cream melting? That's someone's idea of great programming? Honestly, they could drop all the exclusives except monsters and I wouldn't notice. If they did that and added RSNs I'd be SUPER happy. Wait, then it'd be D*. Hmmmm...:eureka


I disagree. I take their HD channels over any FoxSport Channel.

Another good eye candy show on HDNET is Hotlines, with 3 (sometimes 4) gorgeous babes running around in bikinis doing outdoor stuff like cliff diving, fishing, snorkling and cavorting in the sun. Not as good as Bikini Destinations for pure babe watching but still nice to watch.