With all the channels that voom has broadcasting HD 24/7 i would have thought someone would get rights to play the T2 extreme dvd hd version in its true form.

If anyone has seen this dvd version on there pc or taken from pc to there tv at 1920x1080 res it is just amazing the work that went into making this film a true hd transfer and i have yet to see any program wether it be discovery hd or movie hd even compare to the quality of this film in its true form.

If anyone has seen or has any info on a movie channel getting rights to play this let me know or feel free to post comments about the hd T2 version of the film.

This one will be worth seeing. Amazing movie...

With all the channels that voom has broadcasting HD 24/7 i would have thought someone would get rights to play the T2 extreme dvd hd version in its true form.

If anyone has seen this dvd version on there pc or taken from pc to there tv at 1920x1080 res it is just amazing the work that went into making this film a true hd transfer and i have yet to see any program wether it be discovery hd or movie hd even compare to the quality of this film in its true form.

If anyone has seen or has any info on a movie channel getting rights to play this let me know or feel free to post comments about the hd T2 version of the film.

I am working on it right now. Just Curious, How did you port it over to your TV from your PC?

Probably hooked up the computer to the TV. Most newer video cards can be tweaked to output in HDTV standard resolutions, my desktop is currently 1280x720p, which makes my Cineos into a REALLY impressive 55" computer monitor. Check in the HTPC forum at AVSForum and read up on it if you are interested. Easiest way is if you have a TV that supports RGBHV input, but if all you have is component, there are numerous RGB-Component convertors out there that you can use. Now i just need a wireless mouse/keyboard combo.. the wires across the living room floor are getting dangerous!

Probably hooked up the computer to the TV. Most newer video cards can be tweaked to output in HDTV standard resolutions, my desktop is currently 1280x720p, which makes my Cineos into a REALLY impressive 55" computer monitor. Check in the HTPC forum at AVSForum and read up on it if you are interested. Easiest way is if you have a TV that supports RGBHV input, but if all you have is component, there are numerous RGB-Component convertors out there that you can use. Now i just need a wireless mouse/keyboard combo.. the wires across the living room floor are getting dangerous!

Don't forget DVI, that is also quite easy to setup. (should add depending on the tv).

possible, i've heard of a lot of problems trying to get DVI to work though. You can't tweak the timings on DVI usually, and custom resolution do not work. Most video cards ask the TV what resolutions it can handle, and for compatabillity reasons, the tv responds with 640*480, 800*600, and 1024*768. That is it. So you can't use the TV in it's native resolution (at least i could find no way to) This is why I suggested the RGBHV. Electrically, the DVI works great, but the picture quality, because of the TV rescaling, is horrible.

The way i do it is like this:

ATI 9800pro 256 meg vid card used with a ATI DVI to component switch very small in size and allows for HDTV to be passed from computer thru vid out of the dvi side and converts from dvi to component.

I have mine set to always display 1920x1080 res and works awsome for dvds and games if pc has enough power to game at that res.

dvds are all upconverted to 1080i format and look better than using a standard dvd player with progressive scan.

I'm waiting for the Bravo D3 to come out, my PC only has a 900 mhz processor and will play WM9 HD files at half speed.

The way i do it is like this:

ATI 9800pro 256 meg vid card used with a ATI DVI to component switch very small in size and allows for HDTV to be passed from computer thru vid out of the dvi side and converts from dvi to component.

I have mine set to always display 1920x1080 res and works awsome for dvds and games if pc has enough power to game at that res.

dvds are all upconverted to 1080i format and look better than using a standard dvd player with progressive scan.

How does small text look when running at 1080i? I am just curious how bad the interlacing affects readability. Obviously it wouldn't really matter for games, but I do know that the text on my 720p screen is beautiful. Also, the interlaced screen would be limited to 30fps also, I know most games i play run at the full 60fps at 720p for me, which is simply beautiful. VERY lifelike... Not like I'm going toswitch, as my tv only does 720, just curious how it works.

You can't even see 60 FPS :rolleyes:

The interlacing isn't noticeable unless the text is moving...and moving quickly.

while i would agree that you probably can't see 60fps, there is definately a difference between playing games at 30 and games at 60. The motion is so smooth, that it really does trick the eyes into seeing real motion.

Well guys,

Here is my experiment to watch the T2 HD DVD. Which probably won't work due to the MS WMP DRM with T2 and other reasons (i.e. memory).

I'm in the middle of a xbox modification

The goal is to have an all in one HD DVD player/game player/computer.

I installed the mod chip.

I still need to load linux, load MS WMP using an linux emulator, network the x-box, get the T2 DVD, run a test.

With alot of luck I will watch T2 in 720P and/or 1080i this weekend.

The way i do it is like this:

ATI 9800pro 256 meg vid card used with a ATI DVI to component switch very small in size and allows for HDTV to be passed from computer thru vid out of the dvi side and converts from dvi to component.

I have mine set to always display 1920x1080 res and works awsome for dvds and games if pc has enough power to game at that res.

dvds are all upconverted to 1080i format and look better than using a standard dvd player with progressive scan.

How much is the ATI card?

I don't think you're going to get 1080i. The XBox just doesn't have enough CPU power. It takes a fairly hefty 2.4ghz or above for clean playback.

You can do 720p on XBOX. I've seen that, and it isn't out of the ordinary, but if you manage to actually get 1080i out of it, that would be the first I've ever heard of that happening.

You can do 720p on XBOX. I've seen that, and it isn't out of the ordinary, but if you manage to actually get 1080i out of it, that would be the first I've ever heard of that happening.

It also puts out 1080i.
I have a 1080i game called Siberia.

Hell, if I get 720p it is good enough for me. My original plan was just to get 480p but that was before I new anything about HD.

Panzer Dragoon Orta and Enter the Matrix are also both 1080i.

Panzer Dragoon Orta and Enter the Matrix are also both 1080i.

How is enter the Matrix? Is it worth it

How is enter the Matrix? Is it worth it

Not really. It just has bad gameplay and it's VERY REPETITIVE. BTW, I don't think Panzer Dragoon is 1080i. I think it's Dragon's Lair and MX Unleashed that are 1080i. EAs most recent bMLB game is 720p and look great also. Syberia is the most beautiful console game ever. It's worth the rental to just play through and enjoy the scenery.

possible, i've heard of a lot of problems trying to get DVI to work though. You can't tweak the timings on DVI usually, and custom resolution do not work. Most video cards ask the TV what resolutions it can handle, and for compatabillity reasons, the tv responds with 640*480, 800*600, and 1024*768. That is it. So you can't use the TV in it's native resolution (at least i could find no way to) This is why I suggested the RGBHV. Electrically, the DVI works great, but the picture quality, because of the TV rescaling, is horrible.

Guess DVI varies for people, probably depending on the tv. My RPTV it works great. Not sure why custom resolutions do not work. I think run any variety up to 540p through DVI (960x540 -- 950x500 to get rid of overscan for example). Powerstrip is needed sometimes to get those resolutions though. My advice would be to search through avsforums (any other places) and gather info on the device and the connection you are trying to make. DVI is the cheapest way to test (short dvi cable can be had online pretty cheap now), so it is always a good place to start, and if you have problems, then move on to RGBHV/transcoder.

the vid card i have ATI 9800pro 256meg card i bought the day they where released about 1 year ago and paid about 500 for the card us. The picture quality at 1080i on the desktop is very small and hard to read but don't notice any interlacing quality concerns and it works fine for what i use it for mainly movies, divx, xvid, and game playback and i also have the card hooked up to the monitor at the same time so i can see the monitor fine for moving around windows and the like.

My monitor is 21" capable of 2048x1536 res at 85hz refresh.

I mainly use the pc to tv for the above games and movies is all everything else i just use the monitor in general.

also yes the specs on the T2 HD version are extreme for pc requirments.

Here is the spec system i use:

P4 2.4c Oced @ 3.3ghz
1 gig geil golden dragon pc3500 @ 275fsb dual channel mode
ATI 9800 pro 256meg oced to 400/365

When i first got the film and tried to play it the dvd player i had was only a 4x and would not even read the data from the dvd fast enough so i found the directory with the wmv files in it and extracted all like 6 gig to the pc hard and watched from there bypassing the dvd drive. I have gotten a 16x dvd drive and still find it hard to fast forward and rewind without major wait time.

I know the film to play at 24fps needs to process about 9mb per sec to keep the film going and steady.

Not really. It just has bad gameplay and it's VERY REPETITIVE. BTW, I don't think Panzer Dragoon is 1080i. I think it's Dragon's Lair and MX Unleashed that are 1080i. EAs most recent bMLB game is 720p and look great also. Syberia is the most beautiful console game ever. It's worth the rental to just play through and enjoy the scenery.

Syberia wore me out. I don't mind trying figure puzzles out but it got asurd in addition I lost my game save twice at the School with the birds due an x-box freeze up.

The 1080i was cool though.

Xbox HDTV T2 update
Well the xbox is fully modded with linux and media players. It puts out 480p equivalent to my current progressive scan DVD player. It plays all the media I had burn previousily that the current DVD player could not read.

-480p/media compatibility is a success!

There is a program called Xbox Media Center that has an "about XBMC" video.
I watched it in 1080i at 60Hz.

XBOX HD video compability - Success!

For T2, I will probably have to stream it to the XBOX from a PC.
Niether Blockbuster or Hollywood video has it for rent.

http://www.hdtvpub.com/productdb/games/index.cfm?platform=xbox&r720p=yes&r480p=no

The xbox with XBMC will upconvert DVDs to 720P and 1080i.

The 720p looks good (much better than some HBO-HD/Max HD upconverts), the 1080i upconvert not good.

I will not be able to run T2 High def wm9 on the xbox due to DRM. XBMC may or may not add this capability in the future.

[QUOTE=SystemHalt]When i first got the film and tried to play it the dvd player i had was only a 4x and would not even read the data from the dvd fast enough so i found the directory with the wmv files in it and extracted all like 6 gig to the pc hard and watched from there bypassing the dvd drive. I have gotten a 16x dvd drive and still find it hard to fast forward and rewind without major wait time.
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How do you bypass the drive? I am trying to do the same thing.

thanks

to play the T2 hd version from your hard forst you have to get media rights from microsoft so run the dvd from your dvd rom first to gain rights to the movie once the movie starts to play from your dvd drive then stop the movie and goto the following dir within the dvd and dump all contents to your hard drive here is the dir on the dvd rom:

F:\common\win\lang\en\t2x\esource this is where the hd movie files are kept and can be transfered to the pc from here all that needs to be transfered are the following files:

T2_Part1.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part2.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part3.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part4.wmv 870meg about

then after all files are on the hard you can play them using either wmp9 or other dvd programs that work with using wmp9 codec.

hope this helps

Thank you!

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F:\common\win\lang\en\t2x\esource this is where the hd <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=movie&v=56">movie</a> files are kept and can be transfered to the pc from here all that needs to be transfered are the following files:

T2_Part1.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part2.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part3.wmv 2gig about
T2_Part4.wmv 870meg about

then after all files are on the hard you can play them using either wmp9 or other <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=dvd&v=56">dvd</a> programs that work with using wmp9 codec.

hope this helps


Dear All

I ve been waiting for months to have my copy of T2-HD, and now that I got it from amazon i find myself living for a while in south america, and somehow the damn DRM does not le me acquire the license.

The routine stalls at the window that says "loading ..please wait"..and stays there for ever.

Could it be due to territorial considerations?..if that is the case..how does the damn DRM finds out that i am not in the USA?...I think of two posilibilities: my IP (starts with 200. here, it woud start with 66 in the US) and my OS version (it is XP in spanish here). Do you know for sure how it does it?

I have tried conecting via dial up to my ISP in the US (that gives me an IP that starts with 66) but still the same....the routine stalls in the same place and sometimes even disconects the internet connection.

I dont think I have any hw issue. My procesor is a P4 3G, 512M ram, DVD is 16X, ATI 9800 pro video card, display is set at 1600 x 1200, etc.

Please help me !!!!!!!

thanks in advance

alfred