Thread: Need an advertisement translated - Deutsch (?)

Sorry about the last line... My German is really rusty

What I think they mean is, If you purchased the Premium before that date then you will get the premium plus.. If you bought an elite, you will just get an elite, not the premium plus

German is very hard to translate as one word can mean different things

Go to google. Click on Language Tools. Follow the bouncing ball...



Google translation

Not too bad for a computer program...

May be those, who wants a dual tuner upgrade and are familiar with a soldering iron, can wait a bit to see if someone posts a hardware mod letting you to magically upgrade your AZBox Premium to "+" for just a few bucks. Also, it may be one would have to abandon his AZBox ATSC Tuner dream with this Dual DVB Tuner config, as extra space and mounting options for an extra NIM Tuner are often limited inside any STB.

I don't know about you all, but if I had bought an AZbox that was advertised as having the ability to add another tuner, with the understanding that the only thing we were waiting on was for them to market the tuners separately, and then found out that it was a lie and it never had that capability in the first place, I'd be SERIOUSLY upset.

BUT, something doesn't seem right! If the current models can only support one tuner, why are they selling DVB-C and DVB-T tuners? Do they mean to say that it will only support one DVB-S(2) tuner at once, but other tuners are OK? (If they want to sell their product on the world market, I'm afraid that they're going to have to start communicating in proper English.)

Does anyone know if the new tuners will have blind-scan?

Originally Posted by Jim S.

I don't know about you all, but if I had bought an AZbox that was advertised as having the ability to add another tuner, with the understanding that the only thing we were waiting on was for them to market the tuners separately, and then found out that it was a lie and it never had that capability in the first place, I'd be SERIOUSLY upset.

BUT, something doesn't seem right! If the current models can only support one tuner, why are they selling DVB-C and DVB-T tuners? Do they mean to say that it will only support one DVB-S(2) tuner at once, but other tuners are OK? (If they want to sell their product on the world market, I'm afraid that they're going to have to start communicating in proper English.)

Does anyone know if the new tuners will have blind-scan?

Jim S.

The original boxes do (apparently) support dual tuners. One DVB-S2 tuner with one of the other (DVB-C or DVB-T) tuners, but not with another DVB-S2 tuner.

It seems that the advertising and promotion in the specifications does indicate this, but I find it quite misleading and a poor public policy.

I do, however, believe that this was not intentional. The box was initially geared towards the European markets and not the N.A. markets. I don't think that they thought it all through completely and did not expect that "those people across the big pond" would ever want to set up two tuners with an identical purpose or function.

If you think about it, it does sound rather unique... Why would you want two tuners that perform the same task? Two cable tuners? Two OTA tuners? Two DVB-S2 satellite tuners? What would be the point?

Ahh! But, they didn't research OUR market and our demands and desires. We take such things for granted, such as a PVR or watching one channel while recording another or watching a P-in-P from the same source. So we are probably guilty as consumers for jumping to conclusions and NOT reading between the lines.

Still, they should have expected a "World Market" on these receivers and prepared for it better than this (at least made an official statement in this regard).

I think that they attempted to make it work this way after the fact, but couldn't do it with mere software changes. So now that they understand the market and the viability, they have geared up production alterations to support this demand. Or at least I hope so.

And as far as "BLIND SCAN" capabilities, I know that this is being discussed on the European forums including the "glitch" or "bug" list reports for AZBox, but they don't seem to understand our mentality in this regard either. I get the impression that their satellite services are quite different from ours.

RADAR

Just keep in mind guys, AZBox maker
OpenSa

t is very young family business started in 2007, and they didn't expect their receiver to have such interest throughout the world. For now, they do not manufacture any receivers for US market at all, and dual DVB-S2 tuner is a welcome option first of all in Europe and other places. Blindscan has a much lower priority for European market, where FTA channels are in abundance, and other options are plentiful as well. However, adding firmware code to utilize hardware blindscan capability requires a lot more work that they can handle at the moment, given multitude of other tasks at hand.

Consider AZBox blindscan as an advertising trick rather than foreseeing reality. Was it even confirmed that DVB-S2 demodulator chip they use (what model?) offers blindscan circuitry? If not, it would need to be supported by AZBox main processor, which can't compete with an average PC processor's power anyway. It may also be the reason, they can't go beyond ads on blindscan. As to hardware design errors, they do happen even with long term players, and that's why most electronic products go through multiple revisions over their production lifespan. No-one expected from a 2-year company to create such a popular and versatile product like AZBox in the 1st place.

Originally Posted by zamar23

Just keep in mind guys, AZBox maker
OpenSa

t is very young family business started in 2007, and they didn't expect their receiver to have such interest throughout the world. For now, they do not manufacture any receivers for US market at all, and dual DVB-S2 tuner is a welcome option first of all in Europe and other places. Blindscan has a much lower priority for European market, where FTA channels are in abundance, and other options are plentiful as well. However, adding firmware code to utilize hardware blindscan capability requires a lot more work that they can handle at the moment, given multitude of other tasks at hand.

Consider AZBox blindscan as an advertising trick rather than foreseeing reality. Was it even confirmed that DVB-S2 demodulator chip they use (what model?) offers blindscan circuitry? If not, it would need to be supported by AZBox main processor, which can't compete with an average PC processor's power anyway. It may also be the reason, they can't go beyond ads on blindscan. As to hardware design errors, they do happen even with long term players, and that's why most electronic products go through multiple revisions over their production lifespan. No-one expected from a 2-year company to create such a popular and versatile product like AZBox in the 1st place.

Sometimes they just get it right or nearly as right as right can be! I fell into the Coolsat 5K receiver by odd circumstance.l I wasn't even looking for a FTA receiver and had no idea what anyone was talking about. I wanted a replacement DN remote for my 301 receiver! Doggone it I just wanted a remote! They wanted an arm and a leg for that replacement remote. Now look where I am! I could have opened a store downtown to sell remotes for all the money I spent on equipment since them.

Oh well, I would not have learned many things if I had done something different.

I would not have met you all as friends. I would not know computers and programming as well and I would not have had as much fun. And that is what this all is... fun! The best thing isn't the TV that you can watch, it is the friends you make here who are the most important.

Gordy (RADAR)

I think that removing the 20 megabit stream recording limit would be a higher priority (for me, personally, it certainly is) than even adding blind scan capability. Hopefully, they will work on that aspect of the product.