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    I was scrolling through the channel list on the AZ Box Premium Plus with it jumped out of order. When I checked it out all of the channels are still listed, but the names on about half of them are are dim and the SRs are gone. Am I going to have to rescan and re enter those to the list or is there any easy way to restore these channels wtih out using all of that computer mumble jumbo that I do not understand?
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    The AZBox is what it is - Great when it works, PITA when it doesn't.
    If you don't have a Good Backup, you will probably need to delete and rescan.
    Have you considered a simpler Unit for everyday use, and just use the AZBox for what the other unit can't handle?
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    Mine has done that before, most of the time it rights itself. Sometime it doesn't. Azbox is real particular about messing with the sat list. And yeah, it seems to do it all on its own most of the time, doesn't seem like a lot of rhyme or reason to it.
    I have also found that a lot of guys' lists just will not work in my Elite like the one I made did. Sadly I lost mine in a massive laptop meltdown about a year ago, and never bothered to rebuild it, it took a whole day of deleting and adding and renaming to get it like I wanted it. Sad to say, Jim, its the way of the Azbox. And I dont like it either, and it makes me just as mad as hell too that such a great box has to be such a pain in the go-go all the time. But it is.

    I have resorted to using either my Dreamboxes or my Openbox (openbox for 99% of it, really) and I ONLY use the azbox when I must have the 4:2:2.
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    My Elite does the same thing. I can't do anything with the channel on the Azbox to fix it, and I can't delete the channel when it happens either. I haven't tried to edit the channel in the channel editor to fix it. What I do know is the channel still works fine and the dish moves the proper position. So do I care? I care more about a lot of other things that need to get done to make it through a day than the SR vanishing. It is on my "figure it out" list.

    It is weird though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak7 View Post
    Have you considered a simpler Unit for everyday use, and just use the AZBox for what the other unit can't handle?
    I am using the Quali TV as much as I can, but what I wanted today I had to use the AZ.

    I use USB sticks to store the channel and sat list. When there's a probelem stick them in and I am back in business in no time. But evidently they caught the bug the last time I backed them up becouse I keep getting th same stuf over and over again.
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    I figured out why this is happened. For some reason, unknown to man the AZ Box decided to revert back to it's old antenna settings and TP list. I have have the North American list installed and it stayed intact. When the TP list reverted back any channel that didn't match a FR and SR was gone, those that did match an FR and no SR stayed on the list, but wasn't recieving any signal. Luckily the majority of the channels were saved and I only have to re scan a few. Man, I hate this reciever.
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    Like some others here, I've resorted to using an S9 for most everything I watch. I especially like the newer firmware's channel and sat layout. Made it easer to navigate for me. And it made it ever better once I figured out how to do record and playback TV and movies from an external hard drive.

    On the AZBoxes I have, I usually store the 3 files that are accessible with FTP and put them in their own folder with the name as the date on it, id, 01_04_12. That way I keep a bunch of backup files for "emergency" situations such as yours. On thing that changed last summer though was that lightning got my Elite's LAN connection so the only way I can change that stuff any more is with the channel list backed up to a USB drive from the Ultra on the other system. Not a major problem for me but it is somewhat of a PINA after getting use to being able to access everything with the FTP/LAN connection from my computers.

    They say that hind site is 20/20. I was talking to my Wife today about the blind scan feature that I've been infatuated with since I first got into FTA stuff a couple of years back. I can say that I have NOT found any feed anywhere with any of my blind scan receivers that wasn't already posted on a forum somewhere that I have access too. IMHO what that means is that unless you're really into scanning satellites ever day, I don't think that the lack of the blind scan feature in an otherwise good receiver is a major issue and it won't keep me from buying one in the future.

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    I'e got a 107 channels stored on the AZ Box, only about 9 or so of them I can get on the Quali TV and none on the Traxis.

    As for making files and all of that, I am not a fan of the computer. In the time it would take me to figure out what to do I can correct the problem by hand.

    Yea, it's hard to beat some of these guys to the punch when it comes to posting feeds. I am not very very patient when it comes to blind scanning, so I am grateful for the ones who do it.
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    A lot of times when I have a corrupted file list, it's because of the renaming issues with the Azbox. Sometimes if you can identify the '0' SR channels, renaming them in the Advance Scan/ PID Edit window (or in Maz on a PC) will fix it. Also keep a thumb drive in the USB slot and backup the channel list before scanning or adding anything. Hope this helps.
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    I do not have problems with SRs but my Azbox Premium renames and changes the settings randomly so that two satellites have the same setting and names! I always make up backup of settings so I quickly restore them but since my blind scan hardly works and very slow when it does, I use feed hnting sites to update and also to insert changes in data. I have a Vu+duo which is more stable but also has bugs depending on what enigma2 image you are using. However, I find the Azbox's motorised positioner and the channel editor much better and simpler to use. Interestingly, after installing Enigma2, I am able to pick up more stations on some satellites than on the Original firmware but I get more stations cleared and better signal on the latter. Eg. I get NBC (12.5 w) on OF but not on enigma2. I am at 2.2E,49N (Paris,France)

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