Navigator Problems-November 09

[Beachbunnyfl]

The new Navigator upgrade apparently does not allow users to set a fixed output resolution.
It apparently defaults to NATIVE resolution for each channel- despite the
DISPLAY OPTIONS settings.
The SARA system allowed setting a fixed resolution.
Now Fox and ABC HD channels, as well as many others, now reset to 720p resolution.
Since i only watch HD programming it means my STB & TV's must take time to do switching
to accept resolution changes between 720p and 1080i ( which I prefer ).
Worse yet it, means that 1/2 of my available HD programming results in banding
problems when using my video processor and CRT projector setup.
i have sent a message to Brighthouse asking if a fix is in the works.
At least my external esata drives still work, and I like the new look.
Any comments out there?

[Beachbunnyfl]

Update to my post
I solved my problem with output resolution by trying every available listed
resolution repeatedly. I can't offer a specific order of events, but after trying
480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i and the A and B buttons, I luckily managed
to lock one 8300HD to 1080i output resolution,
I then tried the same haphazard technique w/ my second unit and it worked.

Brighthouse customer care sent me an email where the writer said the following:
"The aspect ratio can not be locked onto to 1080i, since some of the
programs are not all broadcast in 1080i. The aspect ratio of a TV
program is set by the broadcaster. In the settings of the cable box you
can only have the 1080i checked, however, if a program is not being
broadcast in 1080i you will not recieve a picture. "

I guess this means we have to find our own fixes when the "help' does not
understand the question, the terminology, and fails to spell check.

[The Insider]

The guy who emailed you is an idiot. You can lock the box on 1080I and if the program is not 1080I it will still come through fine. By having only one selected your tv and box will not tkae a year to change channels because of changing signal types.

Its real simple to lock it on a output. In the settings where u see the 480 720 1080 etc just make sure 1080I is the only one with a dot next to it. Use the select buttun on the remote to turn on or off a output.

[The Insider]

The guy who emailed you is an idiot. You can lock the box on 1080I and if the program is not 1080I it will still come through fine. By having only one selected your tv and box will not tkae a year to change channels because of changing signal types.

Its real simple to lock it on a output. In the settings where u see the 480 720 1080 etc just make sure 1080I is the only one with a dot next to it. Use the select buttun on the remote to turn on or off a output.

[Beachbunnyfl]

You can lock the box on 1080I and if the program is not 1080I it will still come through fine. By having only one selected your tv and box will not take a year to change channels because of changing signal types.

Its real simple to lock it on a output. In the settings where u see the 480 720 1080 etc just make sure 1080I is the only one with a dot next to it. Use the select button on the remote to turn on or off a output.

A simple and elegant solution & explanation!
I must have been plagued by multiple dots...

[tampabob1]

This is good to know as Pasco BH is due the new Nav. any day I was told. I am very happy with the current guide but that is me. I am just hoping my way to use it still is an option. I prefer a number/channel sequence most of the time. Easy for me to memorize.

[jcarrera]

I thought I had read that with cable, you never get more than 720p (i?). So, why set box output to 1080?

[The Insider]

There is no 720i.. Its only P and, what you read is wrong. It also depends on the cable system. With BHN They will send up to 1080i if the broadcaster sends it to us. BHN Does not down convert anything, whatever is sent they sent out. (compressed in some cases however) They do not support 1080p yet at this time. Both hardware does not allow it (the hardware they currently use) and the bandwidth demand is greatly increased. Also note the broadcasters who use 1080p is so far and few between that its currently not a major advantage to offer it.

Dish I think does offer it only on their "On-Demand" (wait-and-demand) service. Which basicaclly simple downloads the blu ray of the movie your watching on your DVR then you watch it from there.

[jcarrera]

Thanks for that explanation.

What netwoks send you 1080i, and is there any way to get a feel for which and how much) content is in that format? i.e., is it one show per week, "lots" of stuff, etc?

What are the pros and cons of setting the STB to 720p vs 1080i, and to 1080i vs 720p?

If set to 1080i, is anything slower (such as channel changing or whatever) when the programming (apparently most stuff) is lower than that?

Is there any effect on quality when the box has to upconvert or downconvert? And since any 1080i feed is compressed anyway, is the video quality on the screen really any better if the box is set to 1080i than if it were set to 720p?

[jcarrera]

Repeating, to seek an answer...

What netwoks send you 1080i, and is there any way to get a feel for which and how much) content is in that format? i.e., is it one show per week, "lots" of stuff, etc?

What are the pros and cons of setting the STB to 720p vs 1080i, and to 1080i vs 720p?

If set to 1080i, is anything slower [does anything happen slower] (such as channel changing or whatever) when the programming (apparently most stuff) is lower than that?

Is there any effect on quality when the box has to upconvert or downconvert? And since any 1080i feed is compressed anyway, is the video quality on the screen really any better if the box is set to 1080i than if it were set to 720p?