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Thread: MRV cost $20.00 Is this true?

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    MRV cost $20.00 Is this true?

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    MRV is a nice feature but not at $20.00 per month.

    Here is the link to the story:
    Bright House serves up multi-room DVR service in Fla.





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    Does one receiver replace all your receivers with their MRV?

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    No. Each TV that you want to access recorded content on must have a set top box. If there is a TV that you do not wish to have a DVR on but want digital cable and the ability to watch recorded content from the rest of your DVRs you can get a MOCA enabled regular nonDVR digital terminal, they call it a ‘playback receiver’. For Cisco setups it’s the model 4642HDC, not sure what the Samsung counterpart is.

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    Then its a rip off IMO.
    But Cable doesn't charge you upfront cost on receivers, where as satellite does.

    So if I want MRV right now in my whole house with Directv, It would cost me $199 for the DECA setup , another $198 to turn my SD DVRs into HD boxes for my other rooms. Plus a 24 month commitment.
    So lets Break that down per month for 24 months just on equipment charges.
    It would cost me a Total of $397 in Upfront cost for 2 HD Receivers, SWM/DECA Install to go along with my HD DVR and HD receiver I currectly have.
    The Fees over the next 2 Years for HD ,DVR, and MRV would cost $480
    The addtional monthly Receiver fees for 4 rooms for 24 months,$432

    Total $1309
    Breakdown over 24 months
    $54.54 per month over the next 2 years.

    I guess if your around that price per month with all your equipment and MRV, Then its compairable.

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    hemi, cable gets its price for the box and their ``free'' hd from what they charge for an hd dvr each month. last time i paid for one of their boxes, it was 6.95 for the digital box (which you don't get) plus 9.95 a month for the hd dvr.

    i got dtv mrv when it cost 99.99 for an install plus 3.99 a month for the service. i think 20 bucks a month is steep.

    since i left dtv, i have a tivo in the bedroom and one of bhn's hd dvrs in the living room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceturkee View Post
    hemi, cable gets its price for the box and their ``free'' hd from what they charge for an hd dvr each month. last time i paid for one of their boxes, it was 6.95 for the digital box (which you don't get) plus 9.95 a month for the hd dvr.

    i got dtv mrv when it cost 99.99 for an install plus 3.99 a month for the service. i think 20 bucks a month is steep.

    since i left dtv, i have a tivo in the bedroom and one of bhn's hd dvrs in the living room.
    Yep, I know, But D* increased there MRV Install to $200 and they also will not Upgrade your SD equipment to HD for free.

    It would cost me with my local cable company
    $39.95 per month for 3 HD DVRS and a Stand alone HD receiver.
    Now if they did MRV for $20 it would cost me $6 more per month then what D* would cost me right now for Equipment..

    Only Difference is with Cable its Spread out, I wouldn't have to front $200-$400 like I do with satellite.

    But thats what I'm trying to say, Yes it is more money in my case , But thats just my cable company!
    My Equipment might cost $39.95 , But the Blue Ridge Digital HD Plus is only $83 Per month
    Thats $123 per month. Add all the premiums and I'm Looking at $159.

    Same setup with D* would cost me $150 Per month. But no VOD like cable,and not even close with the premiums either,And my local Cables has more National NON RSN's HD channels.

    Yes cable has high prices on their boxes, but the price difference is minimal over all.

    I add High Speed and phone with Cable , Its Beats D*/Verizon Bundle in my area by $50 the fist year and $30 the second.

    Its a tough market, But Cable still has by far way more customers then satellite. and for many good reasons.

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    To upgrade to whole home DVR you need to pay a one time $100 installation fee. Also every box in your home must be swapped out for MOCA boxes. If you currently have a box that has a MOCA sticker on it you won't need to have it swapped. However if you have a mix of brands such as two Cisco boxes and one Samsung box you would need to have every box in your home to be the same brand and have MOCA support. Now onto the fees for service.

    This 20 dollar fee is the DVR service fee for the entire house. So lets say you have three HD DVR boxes and you pay 9.95/month x 3 boxes for the DVR Service fee. You also pay 6.95/month x 3 boxes for the DVR rental fee. So this ends up being around 52.00 per month. So lets say you want just one HD DVR to be the Server and you made your other two HD DVR boxes as clients. In this setup only the server can stream its content to the clients so only one of your HD DVR boxes in this setup would be able to share content with other boxes. For this setup your pricing would be as follows.

    20.00 - DVR Service Fee for entire home.
    6.95 - DVR rental fee for each of the three boxes.

    So total cost is 41.00 instead of 52.00.

    Now if you want one or more additional HD DVR boxes to also function as servers you would pay an additional 10.00 per month for each box you wish to act as a server. So for my needs I would need to pay an additional 10 bucks a month more than what I pay now. I would be willing to pay this but two other reasons will stop me from ordering.

    1. I refuse to pay another install fee (esp a large 100 dollar fee) for these reasons. Firstly I think this is just a part of doing business and you don't charge additional install fees when its part of doing business. Now regardless of this point when I'm a fully trained network tech and I can't even get paid 100 dollars per hour in no way in hell would I pay a basic BHN installer/tech this type of pay. Yes I realize this fee goes to the company but this is an install fee beyond the normal free cable installs and as such this fee is for the added work the installer must do beyond the normal scope of business. Sorry but this process cannot take much more than an hour and doesn't require extensive knowledge and as such I refuse to pay 100 bucks out of my pocket for one hours basic install labor. When I can make that kind of money per hour with all the IT certifications I have and experience I might consider paying this fee.

    2. Until BHN can backup my recordings and transfer them to the new boxes I won't be able to sign up. I have different people in my home with multiple boxes that must be replaced. I'm telling ya its a fat chance in hell that every box would be empty at the sametime on the same day of the install. This on the other hand would be worth it to pay a small modest fee of say 25 bucks but no more than 50 bucks. Now if the same 100 buck install fee covered backing up and restoring my recordings from the old boxes to the new boxes I would pay this fee in a heartbeat. But until that time comes I'm afraid I won't be ordering it anytime soon even though I'm sure I would love the service.

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    why is there a 100 dollar install fee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceturkee View Post
    why is there a 100 dollar install fee?
    Because they can get away with it because people are willing to pay it. This fee is completely over the top for the work being done just like the Lightning install fee. Now this large fee at least does have a decent amount of legitimate work compared to the Lightning fee. Now this is just my own humble opinion based on the fact that highly trained IT Network techs don't get that kind of money. Lets be honest and say that I doubt these techs are anywhere close to as educated compared to a network tech who is Network+ and Cisco Certified (CCNA). I wish I got that kind of money for just replacing a few boxes and installing a few devices and calling in to authorize services. Either the tech is getting most of that extra money "or" the company is keeping it. My guess is that the tech isn't getting jack for this and I refuse to give "THAT" kind of money to BHN itself. Now this information applies to the Tampa Bay market but may be different for Central Florida once it launches.

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    i will agree the lightning install fee is a joke.

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