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    David R is offline SatelliteGuys Freshman
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    Red face CableCARD ordering experience.

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    I got tired of Brighthouse's DVR and I finally went ahead and got one of the Series 3 Tivos (I've used Tivo in the past and I've always been extremely happy with it.)

    I called to order two CableCARDs and what ensued was a 15 minute argument. It went pretty much like this (I'm not exaggerating or making anything up):

    "Oh, do you have a TV that takes CableCards?"
    "No I got a Tivo"
    "You do realize that the CableCard only lets you change channels, you won't have the on-screen guide."
    "That's fine, Tivo has one."
    "You won't be able to record channels and pause live TV."
    "Tivo will handle that."
    "So can our DVR."
    "I know, but I'm not satisfied with it so I'm switching to Tivo."
    "Our DVR can handle HD channels."
    "So can my Tivo."
    "You also won't have access to the OnDemand channels."
    "I realize that, not a big deal."
    "Tivo has monthly fees."
    "I had my lifetime service transferred to my Tivo."

    After putting me on hold twice, he finally gives up and gets me set up for installation for the CableCards and informs me that there will be a $19.95 charge. How nice.

    I then tell him that they might as well take their DVR with them when they come. He says that by doing that, I'll lose the promotion that I have and my bill will go up $40.

    What?! How would returning the free-DVR (part of my promotion) increase my cost? We argued about this, he wouldn't budge (after putting me on hold one more time.) Finally I asked what if I just keep it in my closet, will my account still have the promotion? Yes, he says. Fine, I'll store the box for Brighthouse in my closet.

    It felt like I was fighting them for the privilege of renting a couple CableCards from them.

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    Kirby Baker is offline SatelliteGuys Senior
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    You might want to make sure the local office is notified that you are just storing that DVR. I am not sure how BH does it, but on Charter, if a receiver of theirs isnt responding (by being disconnected for X days) they supposedly will try to come out and diagnose it, which I was told would result in a truck roll-fee of like $30. I was going to do the same with my Charter HD box (non DVR) because it has to be on the account to get the promo rate.

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    David R is offline SatelliteGuys Freshman
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    Thanks, I'll tell them that. Or to avoid more arguments, maybe I'll just hook it up to a barely used TV and forget about it.
    Last edited by David R; 03-27-2007 at 06:57 PM.

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    Damn!!!, if that was me i would of just canceled my account all together!!! and tell him to stick the cards up his a&&! *idc*, talking about bad luck man....but really how ignorant can that service reb. be? and yea what an as-shole with charging you alot more just cause you want to use your own cable box...was it that hard for the service reb, to just say ok, i will hook u up with the smart cards and explain a few things about the use of a smart card and thats it...geez...

    but really i will be honest. the 8300hd are kinda crappy (but not the worst), even the Motorola from comcast and verizon are way better... (wish they did thru bhn).

    i like bhn, never had an issue and always had great service...but i have notice, that the longer u are with them..ur not as "valuable" as when they first try to keep with with them...if i call for anything, they kinda act like " yea what you want" type of attitude...thought i do get some great service/sales rep at times to times, when i call if i need a ? or upgrade to something, etc...but those who seem like an a&&, i just hang up, call again till i get somebody nice...cause i know i would start an argument to lol...

    so yea,good luck man, is it all i can say..i would really call and complain about that s5hit, its not a big deal..but i get very bothered by small things like that....,you are the customer so you (within reason) ask for WHATEVER you want,and believe me, promotion or not u are able to change things in the package, without having to pay for the change or w/e,so yea, they don't seem to look at you as a "valuable" customer, or at least from that dumba&&....
    Last edited by razorphreak900; 03-27-2007 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorphreak900 View Post
    Damn!!!, if that was me i would of just canceled my account all together!!! and tell him to stick the cards up his a&&! *idc*, talking about bad luck man....but really how ignorant can that service reb. be? and yea what an as-shole with charging you alot more just cause you want to use your own cable box...was it that hard for the service reb, to just say ok, i will hook u up with the smart cards and explain a few things about the use of a smart card and thats it...geez...

    but really i will be honest. the 8300hd are kinda crappy (but not the worst), even the Motorola from comcast and verizon are way better... (wish they did thru bhn).

    i like bhn, never had an issue and always had great service...but i have notice, that the longer u are with them..ur not as "valuable" as when they first try to keep with with them...if i call for anything, they kinda act like " yea what you want" type of attitude...thought i do get some great service/sales rep at times to times, when i call if i need a ? or upgrade to something, etc...but those who seem like an a&&, i just hang up, call again till i get somebody nice...cause i know i would start an argument to lol...

    so yea,good luck man, is it all i can say..i would really call and complain about that s5hit, its not a big deal..but i get very bothered by small things like that....,you are the customer so you (within reason) ask for WHATEVER you want,and believe me, promotion or not u are able to change things in the package, without having to pay for the change or w/e,so yea, they don't seem to look at you as a "valuable" customer, or at least from that dumba&&....

    I think thats advice for anyone to following calling any company.. Becaue you never know when your gonna get that disgruntled employee who doesnt care anymore, or that guy whos leaveing next week and doesnt car, or that guy who has other motovations.. If a call doesnt start going my way when I first iniate it I asked to be transferd or I hang up try again. It sucks but in a call center of 300+ people a few of them are bound to be idiots and or a-holes....

    I am sorry for your problems getting those cable cards, it really isnt BHN policy to be a dick , and he wasnt being one saying theyd raise your rate, Its becasue the computer/billing system is designed as such when your on a apckage if the services arent activated it want let you be on that package. So if you turned in the boxs the package would disapear as the services werent active.. The rep however could of been nice and offered to "credit" your account the differnce each month till the end of your term or something of that nature, but he probley didnt know how to do that or what was involved.. Could of been a new hire just doing what the computer screen tells him he can/cant do, that or he is just somoene that does minimal work, just enough to get by and doesnt choose togo above and beyond for the customers.. Takes a speical person to be a good CS rep.. Not everyone can be so caring and nice to people, when 10mins before hand they got screamed at and yelled at and treated like a dog, to no fault of their own...

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    agreed ^^^, well im out, im ! lol

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    Yea...perty much what steven said lol... it's true we dont love them either, they screw up all the time... That's just the way it is I guess. The reason he asked u all the questions is probably because he has a list of questions they have to ask the customers before they put in the order for cable cards.... Alot of them probably don't even know that they can go in to Tivos

    Also David R's comment.... no that won't happen, the only thing that could happen is if it sits in ur closet for like 2-3 weeks and u hook it up (maybe to another tv) It might not boot. It's going to say "Your Digital service has been disconnected, Please call the your provider at xxx-xxx-xxxx"
    So then you would need to call cust services and have them refresh the box

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    My experience was different with a cable card request. The lady was very nice, informed me of the changes in services, etc., and scheduled the install. The guy arrived, asked me to install the card, which I did. Apparently, a concern regarding the "pins" being damaged and liability. Anyway, it was easy to do and everything works fine. I like it. The serviceman took the old box and left. Credit and changes appeared on my account (online) a few business days later. Incidentally, my TV has the TV Guide Program built in. I set it up for BHN Orlando and after two days, the full guide was there. A little bit more cumbersome than the regular BHN guide, but useful.

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    I went through tourture with the whole cable card stuff.. they tried all the same things to get me to use their boxes.. Wait till you have an issue with your line.. They'll send someone out 12 times to replace the cable card rather than seeing what you line looks like.. I got fed up with them and left cable for sat..

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    I got one better than you guys. I only have basic cable since I refuse to pay that much for all the analog junk or rent their digital box. I wanted to get the HD channels they had so I called them up about the cable card. The guy was going to rent me a cable card to get the locals in HD. I told him he was out of his mind as I already had those scanned in. He argued with me that there was no way I was watching NBC, ABC, etc in HD over the cable line. He told me I must live close to the towers and pick up the signals without and antenna. I was laughing at him so hard I couldn't continue the phone call.

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