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    Looks like a very elaborate guide. To get an initial installation done a certification number is required though aint it?


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    Nope, only the first time you commission the modem you will need the SAN and PIN numbers...for HN

    For Starband you need a cert number but you can take a free online course and a few free tests to get one, instructions here:

    Orbital Enterprises - Satellite Installation and Training Services




    For WB you do need a cert number to commission and you have to take an initial hands on class.

    It's a great user manual. Barb is a professional technical writer that writes many of Ciscos very complicated and verbose technical support manuals. She is also a certified Cisco network trainer that works for Cisco giving classes around the country to Cisco employees.

    I don't think there is a better manual for setting up and moving a HN dish available anywhere for any price....including their own training stuff.


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    I sell Hughesnet for a living and I would not even move the Dish myself .

    I might do the installation and run the wires, but I would call one of the Hughesnet installers that I know to point the Dish for me.

    They key is that your dealing with a device the transmits and signal and your not certified to install it. Its very possible you do the installation and get it working and Hughesnet will shut you down because its not transmitting properly.

    I remember doing Starband several years ago and I had to get a spectrum analyzer to get the cross pol and co polarization correct. I think Hughesnet is circular polarization, but best to leave it to a professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Greiner View Post
    I remember doing Starband several years ago and I had to get a spectrum analyzer to get the cross pol and co polarization correct. I think HughesNet is circular polarization, but best to leave it to a professional.
    The new Ka-band (HN9000) is circular, but all their Ku-band is linear orthogonal. Truck drivers, campers, RVers carry Ku-band gear around with them - setting up from scratch every time they park for the night. Like I said up front - fine tuning RSL and transmitter isolation with an OPI has dumbed the process way down from the old days when you had to call the NOC with one hand while on a ladder adjusting the dish with the other.

    But since the OP has decided to call an installer, it's not really an issue anymore.

    //greg//

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    Quote Originally Posted by grohgreg View Post
    the old days when you had to call the NOC with one hand while on a ladder adjusting the dish with the other.

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    ahhhh....the good ol' days...I remember taking those calls from angry installers and watching a couple specans doing manual crosspol.... ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Greiner View Post
    I sell Hughesnet for a living and I would not even move the Dish myself .

    I might do the installation and run the wires, but I would call one of the Hughesnet installers that I know to point the Dish for me.

    They key is that your dealing with a device the transmits and signal and your not certified to install it. Its very possible you do the installation and get it working and Hughesnet will shut you down because its not transmitting properly.

    I remember doing Starband several years ago and I had to get a spectrum analyzer to get the cross pol and co polarization correct. I think Hughesnet is circular polarization, but best to leave it to a professional.


    LOL, I am having a hard time deciding if this is a parody, or if you are serious.
    Any retard can take the laptop and modem out to the dish and point them (like they taught you for AOL+) with a 7000 [BTW:FREE LAPTOP] at the AOL+ class as well..

    I did one of the very first Gilat2Home AKA Starband installs in the country, and I had to put the stupid thing twenty feet up on a wall and was done in roughly an hour with the whole nine yards, including the NOC geek making me push and pull and twist for a half an hour before he realized my spectrum had already been there and done that in two minutes.

    It sure was fast back then with the dual card system and four users..lol, 3.5 megs down was unreal at the time when my DSL was only at 1.5...

    I guess it is nice in the AC scanning and closing work orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorboy08 View Post
    ahhhh....the good ol' days...I remember taking those calls from angry installers and watching a couple specans doing manual crosspol.... ;-)


    They still do it that way on a bunch of commercial systems. I love talking to the NOC directly, who else can fix network issues...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kryppy View Post
    They still do it that way on a bunch of commercial systems. I love talking to the NOC directly, who else can fix network issues...?
    What commercial systems would that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tate View Post
    What commercial systems would that be?
    sounds like hes doing legacy stuff. we do a bit.....i hate that crap. pes, nb's okemos.....hate 'em. the only stuff thats not too bad is the one ways like the repoints we all just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wad View Post
    sounds like hes doing legacy stuff. we do a bit.....i hate that crap. pes, nb's okemos.....hate 'em. the only stuff thats not too bad is the one ways like the repoints we all just did.
    Every one of the repoints I done had nothing hooked up to them. We started doing a couple of PES one time through ATN, but they did not want to pay enough.
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