Those listed below are our PROUD SatelliteGuys GOLD Sponsors!
Applied Instruments DishStore.NET Home Theater Cruise glorystar.tv satelliteavgs tele-satellite.com

Welcome HOME to SatelliteGuys!


  •  » Looking for help picking a television provider?
  •  » Need Help with your Satellite System?
  •  » Need Advice on your Home Theater Setup?
  •  » Looking for the latest industry news and rumors?

...then you have come to the right place!

DIRECTV, DISH Network, FTA Satellite, Cable TV, HDTV even 3DTV!

We Can Help! We are known as America's Satellite Information Source!
YES! I want to register an account for FREE right now!

YOU ARE AT THE PLACE WHERE INDUSTRY EXPERTS HANG OUT!

p.s.: Registered members see a lot less ads! REGISTER TODAY!

Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1
    bshiers is offline Pub Member / Supporter
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Help Keep SatelliteGuys For All, Click a Star and Become a Supporter! This Member did! Help Support The Site And Get Rid of the Syndicated Ads, This Member did! If you enjoy the site consider supporting it, this member did! Click a Star and become a Supporting Pub Member today!
    Join Date
    Jan 31st, 2008
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    15

    Hughesnet Question

    ADVERTS 1
    I work for a contractor out in Wyoming. We're looking to start selling and installing Hughesnet satellite for business and residential. The gal we are talking to at Hughesnet said that there must be a minimum of 25' of cable between the IDU and the antenna. We're baffled by this and don't understand it. We've done licensed and unlicensed installs on wireless gear (quite different I know), but we're used to using the least amount of cable possible to minimize loss.

    Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

    TYIA,

    B

  2. # ADS
    Register Today & This Ad Goes Away! Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many
     
  3. #2
    Stargazer's Avatar
    Stargazer is offline Supporting Founder
    Supporting Founder

    Help Keep SatelliteGuys For All, Click a Star and Become a Supporter! This Member did! Help Support The Site And Get Rid of the Syndicated Ads, This Member did! If you enjoy the site consider supporting it, this member did! Click a Star and become a Supporting Pub Member today!
    Join Date
    Sep 7th, 2003
    Location
    Western WV
    Posts
    13,602
    Maybe it has something to do with resistance or voltage?

  4. #3
    grohgreg's Avatar
    grohgreg is offline SatelliteGuys Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 21st, 2008
    Location
    Dawson Springs, KY
    Posts
    391
    The "gal" was either not telling you the whole story, or didn't have a clue what she was talking about in the first place. Or maybe she used to work for WildBlue. They had a silly rule like that several years ago. But it was temporary, six months maybe. Once they upgraded the gateway software, that 25' thing went away.

    The HN-series of modems have adaptive inroutes and outroutes. The cable length thing is more related to the inroute. The modem varies its output amplitude after considering the real-time quality of the outroute. The algorithm that calculateshow much amplitude to send to the transmitter includes a constant that represents average loss over 25 feet of average approved cable.

    But even among the Hughes-approved cables, resistivity varies. So the 25' rule is not hard and fast. It's just a common sense thing. The true test is the actual resistivity test. As long as there is acceptable cable loss relative to the transmitter output rating, the length of the cable run is moot. If you don't have ENOUGH loss, to represent the average 25' run, use use either cheaper cable - or use an appropriate attenuator on the modem TX output.

    That's the technical answer. But in the real world, you need to worry more about the MAX run than you do about the MIN run.

    //greg//

  5. #4
    HCI's Avatar
    HCI
    HCI is offline SatelliteGuys Junkie
    Join Date
    Jun 19th, 2005
    Location
    land of the ice and snow
    Posts
    2,555
    There is really not a set minimum but 25' of cable even on the shortest cable runs are not far fetch. Lets say you put a pole up 3' from a house beside the POE and you have a ground right beside there. You are going to use about 4' of cable from the ODU to the back of the dish then Hughes requires at least a 10' service loop, then you have to go down the pole atleast 5' then 3' to the house then around 3' up to the POE with a 1' additional add for ground block drip loops then you are going to need atleast 3' inside. So just right there on about the shortest run of cable you will see thats an average of 25' to 30' if you are doing a Hughes approve installation.

    As for the max I have uploaded a PDF on Hughes approved cable lengths.
    Attached Files
    I'M THE REAL TIPPY TOM!!!

  6. #5
    bshiers is offline Pub Member / Supporter
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Help Keep SatelliteGuys For All, Click a Star and Become a Supporter! This Member did! Help Support The Site And Get Rid of the Syndicated Ads, This Member did! If you enjoy the site consider supporting it, this member did! Click a Star and become a Supporting Pub Member today!
    Join Date
    Jan 31st, 2008
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    15
    Thread Starter
    Thanks greg and tate! The information is MUCH appreciated!

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

SatelliteGuys.US | 46 Miami Avenue | Newington, Connecticut 06111
Links monetized by VigLink