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05-11-2009, 07:22 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Aug 21st, 2008 Location: Dawson Springs, KY
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Originally Posted by Bandwidth Greg please don't play games. I just pulled the connection logs and the only tests recently peformed were two 6:52pm and 6:55pm from the the previous poster who posted his results here. No other satellite originated tests have been issued to anyone else in the recent since 4:47pm today. I can post the link to the reporting engine and everyone can see as well if you want.
Now pull some legit tests and lets have an honest discussion. Otherwise please stop wasting everyones time. | Then you must have some other problems bigger than both of us. cuz I ran half a dozen various tests about half an hour ago. This may go back to the NAT thing I was talking about earlier. Just to show you I'm not jerkin' your chain, here's a screen capture (time in lower right). This is about 4 seconds into a 5 second test
//greg//
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05-11-2009, 07:25 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Aug 21st, 2008 Location: Dawson Springs, KY
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Originally Posted by Bandwidth Hate to say it but satellite may be great for surfing but it doesn't provide a consistent long term stream of data. I bet once the tests are done this will be proven quickly. . | Good grief. That's why I tried to tell that porker dude up front. Now all of a sudden it's all right if you say it ?!?!?!
//greg//
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05-11-2009, 07:27 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 10th, 2009 Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by grohgreg Then you must have some other problems bigger than both of us. cuz I ran half a dozen various tests about half an hour ago. This may go back to the NAT thing I was talking about earlier. Just to show you I'm not jerkin' your chain, here's a screen capture (time in lower right). This is about 4 seconds into a 5 second test
//greg// | And guess what...
You aren't even close to the right page. Go over to the menu, scroll down to DIAGNOSTIC TOOLS then select ISP Capacity Test.
Last edited by Bandwidth; 05-11-2009 at 07:30 PM.
Reason: removed the reporting page as Ip's were shown
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05-11-2009, 07:33 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 10th, 2009 Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by grohgreg Good grief. That's why I tried to tell that porker dude up front. Now all of a sudden it's all right if you say it ?!?!?!
//greg// | Greg porker is a noob, please give him a break. I think there's a way it can be done with some success and now that I'm knee deep in this stuff I bet we can do it. We have the tools to at least test the concept and then put together a solution that might work for some. It won't be perfect but it's tons better than nothing. Ease off the piggy (enuf swine flu goin around as it is).
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05-11-2009, 07:33 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Aug 21st, 2008 Location: Dawson Springs, KY
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Originally Posted by Bandwidth You aren't even close to the right page. Go over to the menu, scroll down to DIAGNOSTIC TOOLS then select ISP Capacity Test. | Wrong. Like I said, half an hour ago I ran all the ISPGeeks tests, some of them several times. Including the Capacity test. The upload portion is a joke for a satcommers. There's no way we'll even register through the first 6-7 levels.
Capacity test statistics
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Download capacity: 187792 bps
Download packets per second: 23
Upload capacity: 68584 bps
Upload packets per second: 8
Quality of service: 80 %
Packet size: 1000 Bytes
If my tests are not in your logs, you've got other problems.
//greg//
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05-11-2009, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by grohgreg Wrong. Like I said, half an hour ago I ran all the ISPGeeks tests, some of them several times. Including the Capacity test. The upload portion is a joke for a satcommers. There's no way we'll even register through the first 6-7 levels.
Capacity test statistics
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Download capacity: 187792 bps
Download packets per second: 23
Upload capacity: 68584 bps
Upload packets per second: 8
Quality of service: 80 %
Packet size: 1000 Bytes
If my tests are not in your logs, you've got other problems.
//greg// | Greg you aren't expected to rate in the first 6-7 levels. It's going to run through them anyway just in case. That's the purpose of such a test and answers your first concern right away. Not a fixed test at all as you claim. Its dynamic, takes into consideration cache, burst and any other form of acceleration and selects the appropriate test for YOUR connection not just some generic configuration. That's exactly what you asked for. One second while I check the logs.
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05-11-2009, 08:03 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 10th, 2009 Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by grohgreg Wrong. Like I said, half an hour ago I ran all the ISPGeeks tests, some of them several times. Including the Capacity test. The upload portion is a joke for a satcommers. There's no way we'll even register through the first 6-7 levels.
Capacity test statistics
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Download capacity: 187792 bps
Download packets per second: 23
Upload capacity: 68584 bps
Upload packets per second: 8
Quality of service: 80 %
Packet size: 1000 Bytes
If my tests are not in your logs, you've got other problems.
//greg// | Please go back and test one more time because your results are the only ones not showing. When the test is complete there will be a link to CLICK FOR DETAILED ANALYSIS. Inside the link will be a test id just tell me the test id please.
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05-11-2009, 08:44 PM
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Ok a couple more test. They may not be valid as this is prime Internet and satellite time.
But it looks to me like (and as an original 9000 spaceway III user that spaceway III is deliberately being throttled. I have said from the beginning that Hughes is doing this so that the first users on spaceway III don't have superb performance and as they add users it gets to be unacceptable. 7000S modem satmex5 17.57 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 809928 bps Download packets per second: 101 Upload capacity: 152864 bps Upload packets per second: 19 Quality of service: 90 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes 18:01 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 551976 bps Download packets per second: 68 Upload capacity: 34512 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 85 % Packet size: 1000 B 9000 modem spaceway III 18:05 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 4421304 bps Download packets per second: 552 Upload capacity: 36392 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 64 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes 18:08 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 5547488 bps Download packets per second: 693 Upload capacity: 36032 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 23 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes | 
05-11-2009, 09:09 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 10th, 2009 Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by tobifelinis Ok a couple more test. They may not be valid as this is prime Internet and satellite time.
But it looks to me like (and as an original 9000 spaceway III user that spaceway III is deliberately being throttled. I have said from the beginning that Hughes is doing this so that the first users on spaceway III don't have superb performance and as they add users it gets to be unacceptable. 7000S modem satmex5 17.57 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 809928 bps Download packets per second: 101 Upload capacity: 152864 bps Upload packets per second: 19 Quality of service: 90 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes 18:01 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 551976 bps Download packets per second: 68 Upload capacity: 34512 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 85 % Packet size: 1000 B 9000 modem spaceway III 18:05 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 4421304 bps Download packets per second: 552 Upload capacity: 36392 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 64 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes 18:08 mst Capacity test statistics ------------------------ Download capacity: 5547488 bps Download packets per second: 693 Upload capacity: 36032 bps Upload packets per second: 4 Quality of service: 23 % Packet size: 1000 Bytes | On the last two tests you had an unacceptable amount of loss, 18:05mst 13.5% loss, 18:08mst 25.0% loss which is horrible. You can see loss statistics in the Capacity test, click on the loss tab and run your mouse across the the plot lines.
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05-11-2009, 09:19 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 10th, 2009 Location: Tampa Florida
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Hughes is intentionally dropping packets to achieve the service level you're seeing. Some may call it throttling, comcast users know it well as torrent busting and similar nasty names.
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