Echostar Broadband I L.L.C. $ 49,927,365 Grant Request $ 50,425,018 Loan Request

[Stargazer]

Looks like Echostar is going after some of that stimulus money as well ...


BroadbandUSA

The RUS BIP program will allow EchoStar Broadband I L.L.C. ("EchoStar") to reach about 426,104 rural unserved/underserved U.S. households with no or negligible broadband access from terrestrial providers. EchoStar will use unused bandwidth capacity on two existing satellites to serve up to about 100,000 rural unserved and underserved households at a very attractive price-point.

Do a search on the page for Echostar

Also found ...

EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC

Through a joint venture between WildBlue Communications, Inc. and EchoStar Broadband II L.L.C., EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC will deploy a next generation, affordably priced satellite broadband service to our nation's most rural and remote citizens. EchoBlue's project is the most cost-effective way to deliver 10Mbps broadband service to over 1.5 million consumers within the contiguous 48 states.


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgra...ns/results.htm

[apsc]

Looks like Echostar is going after some of that stimulus money as well ...


BroadbandUSA

The RUS BIP program will allow EchoStar Broadband I L.L.C. ("EchoStar") to reach about 426,104 rural unserved/underserved U.S. households with no or negligible broadband access from terrestrial providers. EchoStar will use unused bandwidth capacity on two existing satellites to serve up to about 100,000 rural unserved and underserved households at a very attractive price-point.

Do a search on the page for Echostar

Also found ...

EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC

Through a joint venture between WildBlue Communications, Inc. and EchoStar Broadband II L.L.C., EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC will deploy a next generation, affordably priced satellite broadband service to our nation's most rural and remote citizens. EchoBlue's project is the most cost-effective way to deliver 10Mbps broadband service to over 1.5 million consumers within the contiguous 48 states.

you got any links for that info?

[broadbandinabox]

Thanks to StarGazer for the link. I found 3 EchoStar applications there.


EchoStar Broadband I L.L.C. Executive Summary

EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC


Executive Summary

ViaSat and EchoStar Executive Summary




All PDFs and very informative.

[apsc]

Well how likely is this to happen Stargazer? Does this mean the cost of internet and media services dropping greatly including phone if this is approved? That is of course if there is no F.A.P. What are your thoughts?

[Stargazer]

I already know that the government does not consider satellite broadband as part of a broadband solution and has said that they will not get stimulus money. Kind of interesting how they went ahead and applied anyways. I would be very disapointed if satellite broadband got any grants due to limitations and ping issues. I believe that F.A.P. and oversubscribing causing a lot slower bandwidth for customers is the worst thing for satellite. Wireless from towers is the best alternative to fiber/copper/cable, not satellite.

I do think that in certain markets this could lead to cheaper services but for the most part, there is not enough stimulus money being given out to make that big of an impact. There should be at least 10-20 times this amount to make a good impact. A lot of the money is going to be used for research and other things, not expanding broadband.

[apsc]

I already know that the government does not consider satellite broadband as part of a broadband solution and has said that they will not get stimulus money. Kind of interesting how they went ahead and applied anyways. I would be very disapointed if satellite broadband got any grants due to limitations and ping issues. I believe that F.A.P. and oversubscribing causing a lot slower bandwidth for customers is the worst thing for satellite. Wireless from towers is the best alternative to fiber/copper/cable, not satellite.

I do think that in certain markets this could lead to cheaper services but for the most part, there is not enough stimulus money being given out to make that big of an impact. There should be at least 10-20 times this amount to make a good impact. A lot of the money is going to be used for research and other things, not expanding broadband.

You may be right. I have not seen much that Echostar puts their mind to do that they don't accomplish. On the other note supposedly Hughes has announced they will be launching a better service in 2012.

[Stargazer]

Do you have a link to that announcement anywhere? I have read where Hughes was supposed to have improved service already with additional space/satellites but that never happened. Hughes is as slow or slower than dialup a lot of times during the day.

[apsc]

Hughes to Launch 100 Gbps High Throughput Satellite in 2012
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Hughes to Launch 100 Gbps High Throughput Satellite in 2012
Space Systems/Loral selected to manufacture next-generation satellite
with over 100 Gbps throughput, utilizing enhanced IPoS standard

Germantown, Md., USA, June 16, 2009 — Hughes Network Systems, LLC (HUGHES), the global leader in broadband satellite networks and services, today announced that it will launch a next-generation, high throughput satellite in the first quarter 2012 to expand its rapidly growing HughesNet® broadband Internet service across North America. Designed to deliver over 100 Gbps throughput, the new Hughes satellite will utilize an enhanced version of the IPoS standard, the world's leading broadband satellite standard approved by ETSI, TIA and ITU.

“This is a very exciting time for Hughes,” said Pradman Kaul, chairman and CEO of Hughes. “In a little over a year since successfully launching HughesNet service on SPACEWAY® 3, we are once again poised to push the envelope and bring a sophisticated, high throughput satellite to market—based on cutting-edge industry standards, and with capabilities that position us well into the future as a successful integrated satellite service provider.”

Employing a multi-spot beam, bent pipe Ka-band architecture, the new geostationary satellite will provide significant additional capacity for HughesNet service in North America . Its capabilities will augment the successful SPACEWAY 3 satellite system, the world's first with on-board switching and routing, which Hughes put into commercial service in April, 2008. Space Systems/Loral has been selected to manufacture the new Hughes satellite, based on its SSL 1300 platform, which has the proven flexibility for a broad range of applications and is expected to provide service for 15 years or more.

“We are very pleased to add Hughes to our list of valued customers,” said John Celli, president and chief operating officer of Space Systems/Loral. “Satellites for broadband communications are playing an important role in making high-speed Internet service available throughout the country. Space Systems/Loral is on the leading edge of manufacturing the high-power, broadband satellites that enable this type of service.”

About Space Systems/Loral

Based in Palo Alto, California, SS/L designs and builds satellites and spacecraft systems commercial and government customers around the world. As the leading provider of commercial satellites, the company works closely with satellite operators to deliver spacecraft for a broad range of services including direct-to-home television, digital audio radio, broadband Internet, and digital multimedia broadcasting. With more power on orbit than any other satellite manufacturer, SS/L helps customers meet business objectives with advanced solutions based on space-proven heritage designs. For more information, visit
www.ssloral.com

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About Hughes Network Systems

Hughes Network Systems, LLC (HUGHES) is the global leader in providing broadband satellite networks and services for large enterprises, governments, small businesses, and consumers. HughesNet encompasses all broadband solutions and managed services from Hughes, bridging the best of satellite and terrestrial technologies. Its broadband satellite products are based on global standards approved by the TIA, ETSI and ITU standards organizations, including IPoS/DVB-S2, RSM-A and GMR-1. To date, Hughes has shipped more than 1.9 million systems to customers in over 100 countries.

Headquartered outside Washington, D.C., in Germantown, Maryland, USA, Hughes maintains sales and support offices worldwide. Hughes is a wholly owned subsidiary of Hughes Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: HUGH). For additional information, please visit
www.hughes.com


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©2009 Hughes Network Systems, LLC. All Rights Reserved. HUGHES, HughesNet, and SPACEWAY are registered trademarks of Hughes Network Systems, LLC.
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www.hns.com

[Stargazer]

The end user would NEVER EVER see that much throughput from Hughes. That is the their total bandwidth which has to be split up among all of their subscribers. They have to keep upgrading their stuff in order to be able to add additional customers. Also, just because it is capable of a high amount of bandwidth does not mean that it will help the end user. It just means they can add more customers. They are not going to purchase more bandwidth than what they need to. I sure the heck hope service improves because it sure sucks right now. Dialup speeds or worse during the daytime is NOT broadband, along with download caps.

Eventually and hopefully there will be enough alternatives to satellite in many areas that currently do not have it within a few years. Whitespaces that will use existing spectrum that is also used for digital tv stations will help out with this quite a bit to fill in the gaps along with improvements in cell phone companies and expansion of wifi. Satellite will have to dramatically improve or get out of the way.

[harshness]

I believe that F.A.P. and oversubscribing causing a lot slower bandwidth for customers is the worst thing for satellite. Wireless from towers is the best alternative to fiber/copper/cable, not satellite.

What makes WiMax any different from satellite (other than the latency issues)???

Universal access is ostensibly for information access, not to facilitate interactive gaming applications. I might accept a VPN argument.