Thread: DVRBlackBox For 4DTV

Hi Everybody!
Check out this site:

DVRBLACKBOX, Inc. - 4DTV BLACK BOX / 4DTVBB

It is something new for 4DTV 920 and 922 receivers as far as using DVR.
If anybody has one please tell us about it!

here's a previous post (DVR for C-band ...! must see..)

sounds good for folks that want the ability to record

I know this is nitpicky.. but it bugs me that the guy changed the name of the product and then just changed the product name in all of the "direct quotes" from supposed customers on his site. I don't know why that bothers me so much.. but it just does.. it makes me think that someone would do/say anything to sell a product, if they are willing to change peoples words in (and in a manner of speaking, lie) order to sell something.

I'm sure that was not the intent at all.. so I don't know why that bugs me.. except that I keep thinking that if I gave someone a quote to use in their advertising and they changed the quote or misrepresented my statement, I'd be completely perturbed.. I shouldn't worry though, as I'm sure nobody would mind their statement being altered (and heck, maybe they were asked)..

Okay, I'll quit whining

The concept is cool though. I've always thought it would be nice to be able to create a "go-between" translator to receive a given set of ir commands and then convert them into another set of commands stored in a "mini" database or something.. that way I could make my replaytv control just about anything I wanted without having to hack codes into it.

Maybe with renewed interest in the DSR410, he'll consider supporting that one too...?
Might as well jump on the bandwagon.


off topic:
I'd be far more fascinated with a mod that'd let me take the digital video/audio (or transport stream) out to my computer.
I know there was one (maybe two) companies who built something like that for Dish receivers in the past.
Has anything like that come about for any of the Motorola receivers?

Originally Posted by lumpkin666

I know this is nitpicky.. but it bugs me that the guy changed the name of the product and then just changed the product name in all of the "direct quotes" from supposed customers on his site. I don't know why that bothers me so much.. but it just does.. it makes me think that someone would do/say anything to sell a product, if they are willing to change peoples words in (and in a manner of speaking, lie) order to sell something.

I'm sure that was not the intent at all.. so I don't know why that bugs me.. except that I keep thinking that if I gave someone a quote to use in their advertising and they changed the quote or misrepresented my statement, I'd be completely perturbed.. I shouldn't worry though, as I'm sure nobody would mind their statement being altered (and heck, maybe they were asked)..

Okay, I'll quit whining

The concept is cool though. I've always thought it would be nice to be able to create a "go-between" translator to receive a given set of ir commands and then convert them into another set of commands stored in a "mini" database or something.. that way I could make my replaytv control just about anything I wanted without having to hack codes into it.

Lumpkin666, I not sure that bothers you so much? I was obviously trying to get the word out, feel there's C-Banders out there who wish to use a TiVo ReplayTV or other DVR. The name as involved from PVRBLACKBOX to DVRBLACKBOX the nick name became DVRBB I changed it to something with 4DTV so 4DTVBB came about. DVRBLACKBOX, Inc. was formed to protect me more then anything. DVRBB nick name as stuck a little but to be honest I feel 4DTranslator is a better name for a product which Translates 4DTV.


Other then Hack codes into a ReplayTV recorder 4DTV doesn't like codes enter like Sat G1100 enter. But more like Sat G1 enter wait for dish to stop moving then enter 100. It also knows where it is then enters the correct code to get where you need in the shortest time. 4DTranslator is more then just a IR converter, it was designed by a 4DTV user myself.




Steve
DVRBLACKBOX, Inc.

Originally Posted by Anole

Maybe with renewed interest in the DSR410, he'll consider supporting that one too...?
Might as well jump on the bandwagon.


off topic:
I'd be far more fascinated with a mod that'd let me take the digital video/audio (or transport stream) out to my computer.
I know there was one (maybe two) companies who built something like that for Dish receivers in the past.
Has anything like that come about for any of the Motorola receivers?

Sorry I'm not aware of a DSR410 but I check into it. Other then that I have some 4DTranslator owners use it with SageTV with a computer recorder. I believe its based on DirecTV guide mapping.

Originally Posted by disneyjoe7

Lumpkin666, I not sure that bothers you so much?

Wow, I forgot about that post. Yet, thinking back on this, it still bothers me. Why? Because you represent the comments as quotes from customers. Yet, you've changed the text - I originally saw the quotes with the other product name, so I know the quotes have been changed. Anybody who is willing to "lie" (i.e. change words in a direct quote, or deliberately misquote) in order to sell a product, that bothers me.

I know that you didn't do anything to misrepresent the people's quotes, but changing their words is unethical just the same, and that bothers me. You could have done what most companies in this scenario do, which is go and get new quotes, or only use part of the quote without using the text that is no longer in context with the new name.

Either way, good luck with the product... I won't cry about your ethics any longer, as I think the concept of the product is more important at this point.

Originally Posted by lumpkin666

Wow, I forgot about that post. Yet, thinking back on this, it still bothers me. Why? Because you represent the comments as quotes from customers. Yet, you've changed the text - I originally saw the quotes with the other product name, so I know the quotes have been changed. Anybody who is willing to "lie" (i.e. change words in a direct quote, or deliberately misquote) in order to sell a product, that bothers me.

I know that you didn't do anything to misrepresent the people's quotes, but changing their words is unethical just the same, and that bothers me. You could have done what most companies in this scenario do, which is go and get new quotes, or only use part of the quote without using the text that is no longer in context with the new name.

Either way, good luck with the product... I won't cry about your ethics any longer, as I think the concept of the product is more important at this point.

Ok I see where you're coming from and yes I agree with you. But they are customers of DVRBLACKBOX, Inc. and I asked if that was ok with them. I got nothing back saying no, but did it so it wouldn't confuse people with multiple names on the same page. So I hope you understand my end also. If you where a customer then if I felt it was needed to change some text and you then felt I shouldn't I may remove your quote. In the end of day it's my website and my product which I support and try to promote.

I did it for product branding more then anything, I didn't intend to offend anyone. Sorry if I did.

The DSR410 should work as is, as it has no motor to contend with and uses the same remote as the 4DTV. The only issue is to map the channels into the 4DTVBB .