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    Advise Needed - I am trying to point an 8 foot fixed dish.

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    I am trying to point an 8 foot fixed dish and am having a heck of a time trying to find any thing. I am used to finding birds quickly on KU band but all I am able to find is 43 west. I am trying to find 58 west. I am using the SM-2500 and am seeing nothing stand out on the spectrum analyzer. This is the second day I have spent trying to do this.
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    Dishpointer should give you a decent azimuth and elevation angle to shoot at. Normally BUDs are pretty easy because you can check the elevation angle directly. If that is set, you should be able to rotate the base until something lights up. 55.5W and 58W are quite a bit stronger than anything else in their neighborhood on C-band.

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    Don't forget your skew.
    Pick a hot transponder and have at it.

    edit: oh, and Pendagon's aiming trick should put you right down town.
    At least for finding C-band signals.
    Read and confirm your existing elevation for 43°w off the mount with your inclinometer.
    Adjust that a few degrees as required and twist the mount (assuming you are not motorized).

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    This dish has no elevation, azimuth or skew readings on it.
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    Lightbulb - basic tools:

    That's why you have an inclinometer for elevation, and a compass for azimuth.
    For skew you can be clever and reuse your inclinometer. -
    . . . or, you can just use the force. -

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    , but again, your local Sears, Harbor Freight, or sportsman's store should have something.

    I also recommend your local 99¢ store.
    They have protractors.
    With a straight edge, a string, and weight, you can make a tilt meter.
    I buy 99¢ laser pointers to use in LNBF alignment (sometimes you have to make a jig).
    Just be warned - the laser beam is not aligned with the body of the device, so do take that into consideration when mounting one.








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    I wanted to thank every one. I bought an inclinometer from our local ACE hardware store (12 dollars) and that got me where I needed to be.

    I am now getting 72 Q on the NHK MUX on my Pansat 9200 HD.
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    ACE is the place
    (my local Ace knows me from all the nuts/bolts/parts I buy to ghetto rig something)

    Can you get any better signal quality on 58W? I thought I had a 75 quality on the 6 footer

    edit: I found that thread...90 quality on the 6 footer
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    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
    Can you get any better signal quality on 58W? I thought I had a 75 quality on the 6 footer

    edit: I found that thread...90 quality on the 6 footer
    Part of the difference may be that NHK recently upped their SR to 26590 on 58W, and the thread dates before that time. Also you two have different model Pansats. I steered my Fortec 1.8m to 58W and currently am seeing the following SQs on my Pansat 9200HD (58W is at a 24 degree elevation in Denver):

    NHK (4040H): 80
    CCTV (3880H): 76
    DWTV (3840H): 74
    AJE (3840V): 75

    3840 H/V is a good cross-polarization test for your dish/LNB as both are at the same SR and FEC (7/8). I know my 2.3m does considerably better on these transponders, but it's tied up at the moment by another family member. You can likely get NHK into the mid 80s to low 90s on your 2.4m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pendragon View Post
    Part of the difference may be that NHK recently upped their SR to 26590 on 58W, and the thread dates before that time.
    oh ok. DId not know that

    Also you two have different model Pansats.
    Pansat meters in most cases read the same
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post

    Pansat meters in most cases read the same
    Why is that my Pan-9000 always reads higher than the 9200??
    by about 22 more points on Q or more.
    also have but is not hook up now Pan 300a reads a lot lower than 2500a.
    Last edited by Iceberg; 12-02-2009 at 12:44 PM. Reason: fixed quote

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