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    Here's an idea... Why no HD via HITS??

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    We can get most Comcast/HITS channels on AMC18/105W with 4dtv, why don't they offer any HD?

    For that matter, it would be nice if Comcast would just offer us a nice package that includes the HD they have on c-band, and we still have our dish to view whatever feeds we want.

    Getting HD is only hope for future of 4dtv I think, and with HITS in DCII, why not?? NPS could probably care less. I just signed up and they sent me a xeroxed channel lineup, can't even make out half of it, envelope it came in said All American direct, all they seem to be worried about is the small dish.

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    The problem isn't with COMCAST / HITS. The problem is with Motorola. Once they are out of the equation we can look for things to happen. Until then no one can do any thing about it.

    They even refuse to allow HD commercial receivers to be activated for home use.
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    Yeah, they never let any other mfg make a 4dtv receiver. Look how many analog receivers were made, even echo* had one. We were set up from the get go it appears from GI. They wanted it all for theirself, then moto moves in and only wants commercial users. Not good.

    How many 4dtv subs are there, if there is around 50,000 a $30 a month sub would be a significant amount of money for provider, not to mention most people would jump hurdles to get a new receiver.

    Going to get my RayDX 10' mesh today, later.

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    Motorola has single handedly screwed things up again, what else is new for that company. The HITS HD channels are in megapipe (combo) modes so a HDD 200 wouldn't work even if they sold it to us. Now the Starchoice 505 or a Voom 550 in theory will decode the HITS HD and megapipe. But they would have to be set up to be authorized & mapped.

    Here's a suggestion have HITS run in ZERO key then we could use an old Voom box to watch it for free. We would have to write our own maps and get them in the box somehow though. Of course that won't happen.

    When Motorola is out of the picture we need to try again.

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    505 would be a waste, the 630 is the only receiver with any potential, the fact that the 505 would require an add on board and the fact the HITS would most probably switch to dvb-s2 in the not so distant future dvb-s2 is a must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdti1 View Post
    505 would be a waste, the 630 is the only receiver with any potential, the fact that the 505 would require an add on board and the fact the HITS would most probably switch to dvb-s2 in the not so distant future dvb-s2 is a must.
    Is Shaw running S2 MPEG 4 currently?

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    Good question, I'm not sure, I think they have a few transponders up for testing, the 630 is suppose to be released in 2010. What month? is still a good question but according from a inside source Shaw has some in possession and are testing them.
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    Why is everybody blaming Motorola?
    Our receivers CAN handle HD we just need to buy a device that hooks up to the slot behind the receiver I don't remember what it's called HDD 1000 or something like that our equipment is more then enough for HD.
    The problem is that most people that even had c band went for dishnetwork and directtv that the low amount of subscribers the providers have are not enough to invest in.
    I heard there are like 25k people in the whole country that have a working c band dish and only like half of them have 4dtv and subscribe to some programming.
    The thing is it costs a LOT OF MONEY to build a system that will uplink HD and because we aren't that many it's not worth it to spent tat money because they won't get their invesment back with the amount of subscribers they have.
    I know that because my father is a retired tv station manager and he told me it costs like a few millions just to convert from analog to standard definition digital.
    That's why most stations are going for other means like fiber optics and leaving c band.

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    Motorola refuses to make a new receiver for C band that can handle megapipe, Mpeg 4, H 264, HD etc. The HDD 200 that connects to the 4DTV has very little to look at anymore since it's only Mpeg 2. Most DC 2 HD has or is migrating to Mpeg 4. Only commercial receivers and a couple Starchoice boxes will decode that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvropro View Post
    Is Shaw running S2 MPEG 4 currently?
    They are running non S2 8PSK. I know I can tune their signal with a Genpix...they had some FTE stuff when they were switching over.

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