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    4 foot dish vs. 6 foot dish, need input

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    My homeowners association won't let me have a BUD unfortunately. But I am going to strategically place trees and a fence line that will allow me to skirt the rules a little bit.

    I'm looking at putting either a 4 foot dish up or a 6 foot dish (both over homeowners rules).

    I have had a 30 inch ku band system for years, and want to get more our of my azbox, pansat, and old uniden supra analog receiver.

    My question is what will i be able to pick up with a 6 foot dish that i wouldn't be able to with a 4 foot dish? I know that brentb in Michigan gets STO and a few other channels where he can watch sports on C-Band with a 4 foot mini-bud.

    I know that on some ku band that i can't lock some dvb-s2 signals with my 30 inch dish, and it likely wouldn't change with a 4 foot dish, but what about a 6 foot dish?

    All input is welcome!



    ps. the sad thing is, I have a 10 foot dish in my garage that I definitely can't put up.

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    ps. the sad thing is, I have a 10 foot dish in my garage that I definitely can't put up.
    Plant the Trees, plant a 6ft Dish, and let time take it's course.
    When Trees will cover / hide a 10 footer, upgrade.
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    Are there any rules against building a observatory? Replace the tele with the 10 footer. Yeah, it's a RF observatory!
    I'd plant some camouflage, something that can be trimmed to specific height so that it doesn't block the dish's view of the arc. And the adage is "Bigger IS better". Go with as big as you can, Then put up the 10 footer when the camouflage grows up.
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    Unfortunately the 10 footer is out of the question for now.

    I guess a simpler question would be: What is the advantage of having a 6 foot vs. a 4 foot dish when it comes to Ku- HD (dvb-s2) signals or C-band signals?

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    I had a 4ft before. While it brings down everything up there on Ku with superb quality on even the weakest ku signals, i could get only a few strong C band transponders. I was really interested in C band, so i upgraded to a 6ft. Now i get almost 95% of all C band out there but i've lost on some Ku.

    Another issue with the 6ft is that finding a HH motor other than an actuator is hard to find. Aligning a 6ft for Ku is very difficult since it is prime focus. I hope this helps.

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    yes it does and thanks sanjap. The 95% quote is what I was interested in. I will also keep my 30" up for most of my ku-band needs. Thanks!

    If anyone else has any input it is much appreciated.....one can never have too much info to make a decision.

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    I recently installed a motorized 6 ft dish and have been very happy with it.Still looking to see how much i can get but so far i would say over 80% with a HD receiver.Iceburg does the updateing of the C band list here and he uses a 6 footer!so whats listed on the satellite guys c-band list should be able to be picked up by other 6 footers.PS! I also have my Dish hidden from the road due to a 3 ft dish limit by my town.
    36" motorized dish on garage roof and 6' sadoun dish! w/ DMX741, VBox powermax ver10,AZbox Ultra Hd using the 6 footer and GEOSATpro DRS200c+solomend running the .90cm ku dish. Neusat 9000 at backup.
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    thanks guys, that's kinda what I was looking for. For instance, i was interested in knowing that you get abouy 20% of the CBand channels on a 4 foot and 80-95% on a 6 foot. If there really wasn't much difference, I would just stick with the 4 footer, but since there appears to be a pretty big difference, I will likely go with the 6 footer. I am mainly interested in sports, and Brentb has been a big help in other threads. Thanks guys!

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    A 4' dish you might get away with.
    A 6' dish is a 6' dish, and anyone who sees it (and complains) can blow your cover.
    They are a very light 'n bright color.
    You might want to think about a dull, drab, paint job - camouflage, as it were. -
    Something that breaks up the sharp edge of the rim would be best.

    That said, let me suggest you go rough up Sadoun and see if he has any more H-180 (?) motors left in his basement.
    It uses a Gbox 3000 to run it, but it's a mount & motor, all in one.
    Pretty much made to fling around the 6' prime focus dish, and not much else!

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    The 4 footers while nice are just a toy to play with for C-Band. Yeah you can get some stuff but nothing sucks worse than locking a signal with the 4 footer and getting a heavily pixelating screen or just barely signal when you know the 6 footer would be fine

    With a 4 footer you compensate on 2 things
    -size (duh!)
    -Almost all C-Band LNB's are made for a prime focus dish which the 6 footers are. The 4 are offset so you are hindering reception already with the difference there

    a 6 footer is well worth it (take it from me...I have 3)
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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