Thread: DVR that's compatable with regular cable TV?

Originally Posted by CowboyDren

Even WMC users pay for "free" software by turning themselves into their own tech support department.

That is such an important point.

Originally Posted by CowboyDren

it involves some decisions that more conservative purchasers might not want to engage in

Actually, I'd much rather have a refurb appliance with a factory warranty than one I bought at the store.

Everyone has different preferences in this regard.

Originally Posted by CowboyDren

In a refurb, either it's been proven to be a functioning unit, or it has already failed and been repaired.

The collective experience of TiVo, Moxi and DTVPal DVR owners shows that refurbs are not better. Typically, the refurbs are a reflection of infant mortality of internal components (most often, with DVRs, the hard drive). The refurbishment involves replacing the hard drive, with another instance of the same, with the same infant mortality profile. So essentially, you're getting not advantage from the refurb, and you suffer the cosmetic ill-effects, such as minor marring of the case -- and (and don't underestimate how much other people value this) you lose the special feeling of driving off the lot with something "new". Remember: People aren't robots. They have emotions, so not everything regarding the way they value things will necessarily match up with rational logic.

Originally Posted by bicker

Remember: People aren't robots. They have emotions, so not everything regarding the way they value things will necessarily match up with rational logic.

Granted! Now to change it up on you, from the robot perspective:

Typically, the refurbs are a reflection of infant mortality of internal components (most often, with DVRs, the hard drive). The refurbishment involves replacing the hard drive, with another instance of the same, with the same infant mortality profile.

So why spend an extra $50-100 for a new unit, if you're only given the same mortality rate? I'll take the same risk for less money, thanks. Your other point is perfect; there's something about being the first person to power something up, and that can't be replaced. I like to think that I'm more rational now, and a little less attached to tools/electronics/cars than I once was.

Originally Posted by bicker

Originally Posted by CowboyDren

Even WMC users pay for "free" software by turning themselves into their own tech support department.

That is such an important point.

I'm a certified Linux administrator. I know a thing or two about the price of getting things for free.