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Thread: Battlestar Galactica -- Season 4

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    I loved Adama's line about Baltar and his one track mind... "we can breed with them". That was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike123abc View Post
    I somewhat agree. But, one could also argue that they really had nothing to build the civilization with left. Remember they were fighting over food rations at the end, medicine was gone. Everything had been blasted and broken. They were hanging on by a thread, and it is not clear if they could have even really set up a civilization without it collapsing anyways. They were even out of ammo by this time. Even if they had stayed all in one place after a few generations there probably would have gone back practically to the stone age anyways.

    A modern society is very complex. If you were to pick up a town of 30k people from the US and plop it down on another plant, intact, it would not last long. They were not all young strong people, the were not all scientists, they were a cross section of society that just happened to escape the initial blast. Basic things like food and energy become critical. Did they even have the equipment and knowlege to drill for oil? Did they even have a memory of early power sources and machinery? Tillium (sp?) seemed to be a rare ore they find around the galaxy and refined.

    Scattering people over the globe would probably be the best system to insure the survival of the species.
    It's totally illogical to junk working starships that could produce in orbit around the earth energy needed to make the factories that could sustain them at a modern level of living for at least 1 generation on the ground before they became self sustaining. I would have controlled crashed the Galactica near the homestead site just to mine the refined metals from her and used the other ships parts to make small steam generation plants fired from trees in the uncut forests of the world. How hard would it have been to make a few hydro stations.

    If star-ships are like modern day ships they have complete machine-shops that can build almost anything from motors and generators to plows for farming. The others can just go smoke dope somewhere but I would get to work.

    I just think the writers gave up on a real ending and just dumped this crap on us. I think it would have been better just to have stopped at the Earth rise on the Moon scene.

    I'm not down on the whole thing, the first parts were great but went downhill fast after Cavil ate a bullet.

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    Supernatural I can handle but reverting to cave men when the planet of your dreams is yours for the taking is the most unbelievable thing in the history of the universe. In two years without at least iron age tech most of the crew will be dead from just starving to death and sickness. There is a reason why "Eve" died young. At least half would say that Lee was crazy and setup a base camp somewhere else with everything they could take off the ships. (My camp)
    Lee took the anti-tech option as a way to solve man-kinds problems but it just destroyed the best option which was to really have peace with man and machine.

    As we see 150,000 years later, they made the wrong choice. IMHO
    Lee's reasoning as I think was as others pointed out, there were still Cylon's and probably Cavil's out there who likely did search for the colonist's... if a Basestar jumps into Earth orbit and sees the fleet ships or any signs of civilization on the planet that would be a "smoking gun" and they would proceed to wipe out the humans thus continuing the cycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsaspook View Post
    . I think it would have been better just to have stopped at the Earth rise on the Moon scene.
    Everyone has to do a Lord of the rings type ending nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vurbano View Post
    I dont see how you can abandon all of those ships with the cylons still out there.
    If you read the interveiws that were linked to earlier, all of the Cylons are gone. The colony was destroyed, they admit that they edited too much out and it wasn't as clear as it should have been that the nukes destroyed it.

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    Moore: The final [cut] came out a little less clear on that than I intended…. It was scripted and the idea was that when Racetrack hits the nukes—the nukes come in and smack into the colony—it takes the colony out of the stream that was swirling around the singularity and [the colony] fell in and was destroyed. I think as we went through the [editing process], when we kept cutting frames and doing this and that, one of the things that became less apparent was that the colony was doomed. The intention was that everyone who was aboard the colony would perish.
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    I did forget about the centurions, but they are supposed to leave the humans alone.

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    I just don't think it plausible that 35,000 people are going to abandon all technology and live off the land. I don't think they would last a week in a wilderness. It was in many ways a disappointing way to end it. I think they could have chosen to make several colonies, and do as was suggested above, but then if they did that, we would be saying, then why did they end up on earth, and how come we have no record of them.

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    Who's to say they abandoned all technology, it was stated that supplies would be placed around all of the places where the humans were dropped off...

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    Many series ended with unanswered questions... Where's Captain Sisco for one...

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