Thread: No Go Shaw Direct on 100cm dish

Hello everybody

I'm new to Shaw Direct and can't seem to get my HD 600 receiver to download the channel maps properly from Anik F1 (107W) and F2 (111W), although I have very good signal quality (high 90's) and decent Ecb/no on both (7.5-9.9). I get channels, but not on both satellites simultaneously. I.e. once the F2 channel map downloads (after 24hrs), F1 is no longer available!!

So before I invest more hours, I'd like to independently confirm what I have just been told by a Canadian dealership - namely that I MUST use two separate dishes, one for each satellite (This is news to me!).

Is it true?!?

Northeast Georgia

You need the oval dish with the quad LNB. The 60E or 75E dish.

Or you need two dishes and a switch.

Thanks Peano for confirming that one 100cm FTA dish will NOT receive both Shaw satellites w/ LNBFs side by side.

(I'm confused, though; works fine for FTA, Bell, Dish etc.)

The dish has two LNBs? What type?

Originally Posted by Othea

Thanks Peano for confirming that one 100cm FTA dish will NOT receive both Shaw satellites w/ LNBFs side by side.

yes it will work. Takes some rigging but can be done
I did it on a 1.2m just fine...needed a gap between the LNB's because the spacing is different the larger the dish is. But here are some pics (111.1 was the one in the holder...107.3 was offset)
http://www.satelliteguys.us/canadian...ml#post1898100

OK. I've been holding back.

Let me begin from the beginning. I sent the information below to tech help at Kusat, and received a laconic response stating that I cannot use one dish; that I must have two if I want to receive both satellites! I found this advice strange, so I wanted to have it confirmed before I added a second dish, especially if the problem lies elsewhere in my equipment.

Up to now my basic Shaw Direct channel lineup "has not taken" (for lack of a better term).

I have the following equipment:
* 100cm dish
* 2 DMS standard linear lnbf's, 11.70-12.20Ghz, side by side.
* Chieta / WSD-2001 0/22khz multiswitch
* HD DSR 600

I have the following signal quality:
* F1 -- 98%, Ecb 9.8 (299, SD channel)
* F2 -- 97%, Ecb 7.5 (or 87%, Ecb 6.4 on HD channel)
(I can peak these, but I felt these numbers would suffice for the satellite receiver to download the proper software / channel maps -- wrong!).

My problem is that:
* channels are missing and the channel offering changes (daily)
* F1 and F2 will not work at the same time !!!

After a channel map for F2 downloads on the second day, F1 registers 0% signal quality (although I know that it was at 98%, Ecb 9.8 before the channel download).

Here is what I've done several times, always with the same results:
1. I do a factory reset, after which F1 returns to 98%, Ecb 9.8 on 299.
2. I wait 10-30 minutes, after which channels from F1 appear. I've left the channel 299 untouched for hours as well, for fear that I might interrupt a download. And I've left the receiver on 299 overnight. F2 is not available during the first 24hrs. The time display is inaccurate.
3. About 24hrs later, a new channel map with F2 downloads and renumbers former channels from F1. The time display has corrected itself. At this point F1 has 0% signal quality and none of the channels on F1 come in. F2 has good signal quality. I have changed nothing at the dish.
4. After another 24 hrs (or more) the channel offering changes again -- but I still only have F2 channels.
5. The only way to reacquire signal quality on F1 is to do a "factory reset" and (sigh !) wait again for the channel map to load. Then, a day later, F1 is replaced by F2 automatically and... bye-bye F1.

I've read about "v-codes," "channel maps," and "hits," none of which was particularly clear. Something is just not working right and the only advice that I have received from tech support is that I must install a second dish.

After F2 channels appear, why does the receiver refuse to recognize my lnbf on F1, which has the strongest reading of the two?!? I just can't wrap my head around the idea that a separate dish will solve that problem. None of the channels that I receive show any sign of a weak signal.

Your advice would be welcome.

Othea, you need to be using a a different kind of multi-switch for Shaw Direct to work properly with the LNBs you have. Get yourself a Eagle Aspen S-4180-GX+ powered multiswitch or a Zinwell WB68 non powered multisiwtch or an equivalent to either of these. You need 2 lines from each LNB to the input side of the multiswitch.


http://www.eagleaspen.com/admin/prod...n/file_243.pdf

Zinwell WB68 DIRECTV Approved Wide Band Frequency (Ku/Ka) 6x8 Multiswitch (WB68) from Solid Signal


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The 600 is just a single tuner unit so the 22k switch he has will work fine. I used a simple 22k switch with my 505

The OP needs to make sure its hooked up right. F2 should be plugged into the 22k ON side

Sorry Othea, I assumed the 100cm dish only had one LNB. Never assume they say - for good reason.