Thread: Archos has a PC Tablet like the ipad

Originally Posted by meStevo

Apple's only leg up is the amount of content and the number of Apple fanatics. If this were from a no-name company it would be laughed out of the market. This is the equivalent of the Peek that was made for Twitter only. All the ipad is, is a larger ipod touch, and just a vehicle for the itunes store (and other stores they're launching just for this device like ibooks.

By the end of the year, the only thing the ipad will have going for it is the 3G data plans for the devices that are $649+, as far superior products will probably be on the market with both Android and Windows 7 flavors (W7 was built with multitouch in mind... as you can see form the beginning of this video -
YouTube- Multitouch Demo - HP Touchsmart TX2 Tablet - Windows 7

)

For number of apps available for it right now = 140,000 + and counting. As well as the content. And it is because it is not a no-name company, it sure did get some credibility. That's a hell of a leg up!

And I own an HP Touchsmart, I'm very aware of what can and can't be done effectively with touch. Hell, I sold the Compaq T1100 touch laptop years ago. And that years ago is a very big thing. Touch has been around for a heck of a long time and created a very moribund market because of the apps and a really too broad ranging developer community trying to make software for too many platforms. Yes, W7 and Android are there and maybe they'll come up with that one thing that kills iPods/Touches and iPad, but so far they haven't even come close.

You are certainly free to believe what you will, but at the end of the year, Apple iPad will be the dominator in this touch market.

Originally Posted by tigerfan33

Competition will make them better and better.

While this can usually be said of non-Apple products, competition doesn't seem to have ever been much of a consideration for Apple.

Steve Jobs declares something
"insanely great!"

or "magical and revolutionary" and that's all that is needed.

Yep, love 'em or hate 'em, Apple has succeeded in a terrible market place where others are failing. And with premium priced products.

And in the case of the iPod/Touch/iPhone/iPad it isn't all and won't be, Apple fanbois buying them in droves, or at least they'll have to share the line with the general population.

The difference was the ipod touch and the iphone were genuine innovations. The ipad reminds me of my Verizon phones pre-iphone. Closed regimented environments, if you wanted an app you bought it from Verizon. If you wanted a photo you had to upload it to a service and pay to get it back. No camera on the ipad so I guess that last one is a non-issue.

I guess we'll see what jailbroken ipads can do. As-is it's a step back, as it tries to redefine a tablet PC as not a netbook or laptop replacement, it's it's own magical thing.

The difference between what Verizon and Apple do is that Apple has 140K+ apps. Chances are whatever you want, it is already there.

Friends of mine that are in the developer community are literally drooling about this thing. They see dollar signs all over the place.

Originally Posted by meStevo

I guess we'll see what jailbroken ipads can do.

We might not see any. Unless Jobs blesses it like he did with AppleTV, to see where the hacking community will take it.
That is why they bought the silicon maker and manufacture their own CPUs.
Well, everybody knows it is an ARM at core, but genetically modified...

I have no doubts iPad will be a moneymaker.
Most likely not as big as iPod/iPhone, but it wont be a second Newton.

I think for the first time in a long time this is not a traditional Apple invention, but a reaction to the netbook market.
Not so long ago Jobs went on record to claim that Apple can not do for $500 anything that wouldnt be garbage.

How times change!

There is one field where Apple doesnt have competition, art of marketing.
I think if they say tomorrow that they invented air, there will be people that will pay them for the right to breath.

In the meantime, their computer market share got stuck on 5% worldwide for decades and only last year they beat Windows Mobile in smartphone market.

Who would believe that based on the noise this company generates? Marketing genius...

Diogen.

Originally Posted by diogen

In the meantime, their computer market share got stuck on 5% worldwide for decades and only last year they beat Windows Mobile in smartphone market.

After being in the smartphone market for, what? 2-1/2 years? The last data I saw showed that, while RIM was in no immediate danger of being passed, Apple certainly increased their share of the market. Of course, Nokia seems quite untouchable at #1.

Who would believe that based on the noise this company generates? Marketing genius...

Diogen.

I missed it, but I guess Steven Colbert had a nice iPad placement during the Grammys Sunday night.

Originally Posted by Foxbat

I missed it, but I guess Steven Colbert had a nice iPad placement during the Grammys Sunday night.

Jobs must have loaned him his device...

Wondering Why You Can’t Pre-Order an iPad? It Isn’t Legal Yet | Epicenter | Wired.com

Diogen.

Originally Posted by diogen

Jobs must have loaned him his device...

Wondering Why You Can’t Pre-Order an iPad? It Isn’t Legal Yet | Epicenter | Wired.com

Diogen.

Apple just did not want their FCC application becoming public before the announcement.