Will this be the end of TV Dxing?

**Jim5506** · 07-21-2008 07:09 PM

No mention that multi-path , not signal strength, might be the reason rabbit ears indoors do a poor job, even near the transmitters.

**sleepybear** · 07-21-2008 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by dodge

sleepybear
kb9ndb here , I do do thge tv dx as well, I also have the winegard hd8200p with the ap8275 preamp and rotor 30' up on my house. I have been doing digital tv dx now for 4 years and love the digital. I use a dish vip 622 as tuner and it works pretty good. I have a few digital convertor boxes I have yet to try.
I have received on digital
South Bend IN
Milwaukee WI
Madison Wi
Green Bay WI
QUad Cities IL Iowa
Champaign Urbana IL
Bloomington IL
Peoria IL
I am waiting to see what i can get when everything goes full power!!!

Very interesting Dodge! I can do about 235 miles analog late night, hot summer nights on flatland here with the 8200. I Would love to see your set up! Sounds like a dream station there! Hey, but what about true ionospheric skip, Any luck with that yet this summer?

**K9SAT** · 07-21-2008 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by dodge

sleepybear
kb9ndb here , I do do thge tv dx as well, I also have the winegard hd8200p with the ap8275 preamp and rotor 30' up on my house. I have been doing digital tv dx now for 4 years and love the digital. I use a dish vip 622 as tuner and it works pretty good. I have a few digital convertor boxes I have yet to try.
I have received on digital
South Bend IN
Milwaukee WI
Madison Wi
Green Bay WI
QUad Cities IL Iowa
Champaign Urbana IL
Bloomington IL
Peoria IL
I am waiting to see what i can get when everything goes full power!!!

Dodge, pm me with what repeater your on so I can hit you up.. IM on the KARS repeater at 146.940 KC9NWU untill the morning when the fcc approves my call change to K9SAT. As far as Digital DXIng goes.. It is far from dead as my list is just as extensive as dodge's I have even picked up a few from indianapolis.

**sleepybear** · 07-23-2008 06:50 PM

I don't think I have seen a reply about true ionospheric skip yet though. Has anyone had any luck this year with a digital signal?

**Jim5506** · 07-23-2008 07:56 PM

The radiation emitted by the station is the same, only the modulation on the carrier is now digital whereas it was analog - should behave in a very similar manner.

**sleepybear** · 07-25-2008 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by goaliebob99

Dodge, pm me with what repeater your on so I can hit you up.. IM on the KARS repeater at 146.940 KC9NWU untill the morning when the fcc approves my call change to K9SAT. As far as Digital DXIng goes.. It is far from dead as my list is just as extensive as dodge's I have even picked up a few from indianapolis.

GoalieBob what about your luck with skip this year?

**ziggy29** · 07-27-2008 03:25 PM

Digital signals travel just like analog signal. The only way the transition would make DXing suffer is if the analog stations reduce their power and thus reduce signal strength. If a digital signal isn't weaker than the analog signal it replaced (at the same channel/frequency), if you got a halfway decent picture on analog DXing you should get an even better picture with digital DXing assuming a reasonably sensitive tuner.

In any event, I'm sure some people have been doing digital DXing for years already.

**Scroll** · 07-28-2008 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by roashru

I dont think TV DXing will die off I like the challenge of it as a hobby. I just bought a Apex DT250 and am watching off and on WMOR-DT (More TV 32) in Lakeland, FL Im in Samsula, FL thats 110 miles!

Added another picture WTVT-DT (FOX 13) Tampa, FL to Samsula, FL (32168) thats 110 miles! this station is steady viewing.

That's kinda funny in one way. I'm just across the pond in St. Pete and when the wind is blowing the trees Fox and NBC Tampa start to break up. LOL

I used to DX occasionally in the Chicago area with just a bow tie antenna in a 2nd floor bedroom. I didn't have much luck with VHF & rabbit ears but at times I got a pretty strong signal from about 70 miles away and occasionally even Cincinnati, OH on some weekends.

Still just by the way the digital signals are it won't be like in the old days where you strain to hear call letters with a grainy picture to try & make sense out of. Kinda reminded me of the early days of scrambled PPV ota & cable.

**digiblur** · 07-28-2008 01:34 PM

I was out of town this week at the parents house. Everyone was sleeping so I had the TV to myself. With no FTA system to play with or DVR to watch I decided to scan the OTA. I was picking up the lowest powered TV station from my market, 2 DMA's away! So I swung the CM4228 around to the west and from Southwest Louisiana I was picking up KEYE out of Austin, TX. So DX'ing will still be around... but I do agree you won't be able to see the digital ones like you used to see the analogs where you were barely picking up the signal, just enough to read the call letters. You'll just get the not locked or miss it totally during the scan.

**jayn_j** · 07-28-2008 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by digiblur

I was out of town this week at the parents house. Everyone was sleeping so I had the TV to myself. With no FTA system to play with or DVR to watch I decided to scan the OTA. I was picking up the lowest powered TV station from my market, 2 DMA's away! So I swung the CM4228 around to the west and from Southwest Louisiana I was picking up KEYE out of Austin, TX. So DX'ing will still be around... but I do agree you won't be able to see the digital ones like you used to see the analogs where you were barely picking up the signal, just enough to read the call letters. You'll just get the not locked or miss it totally during the scan.

Actually, this sounds like an opportunity to actually increase the hobby value. I can see people experimenting with antennas, low noise amps, etc. I can also see an opportunity to build computer software to try and extract id info out of weak signals that won't lock. There may also be opportunities to do software to reconstruct a lock from sparse datastreams. This actually seems exciting, as much fun as FTA.