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    Blasto65 is offline SatelliteGuys Regular
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    Help please

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    I have two question #1 how long is to long for a run from antenna to tv cable run. And #2 is 20 deg separation between channels to much for a Large Directional Antenna. Thank you for any help.

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    1: How far you can go depends on how much signal you're getting and whether or not you use a pre-amp. If you're trying to hide the antenna way out in the South Fourty, you probably won't make it. If the run is less than 200', there shouldn't be a problem that a good pre-amp can't overcome.

    2. It all depends on just how directional the antenna is. Some have pretty generous lobes.


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    What antenna would work for the 335 to 316 range of stations

    link to my stations AntennaWeb





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    Quote Originally Posted by harshness View Post
    1: If the run is less than 200', there shouldn't be a problem that a good pre-amp can't overcome.
    I was just wondering about this myself. Is there a thumb rule, like, 200' of RG6 typically costs 3dB?

    . It all depends on just how directional the antenna is. Some have pretty generous lobes.
    hehehe....he said "generous lobes."

    Quote Originally Posted by Blasto65 View Post
    What antenna would work for the 335 to 316 range of stations
    Try this; go to
    TV Fool - Home


    , jump through the hoops, do "Save Image As" and then attach the PNG image file to this thread. Or leave us your zip code so that we can look at it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyDren View Post
    I was just wondering about this myself. Is there a thumb rule, like, 200' of RG6 typically costs 3dB?
    Yes, there is; it could be as much as 11 dB at that length. Loss is directly proportional to both cable length and frequency. See the attached chart, which is from Ken Nist's fine antenna discussion in
    hdtvprimer.com


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    hehehe....he said "generous lobes."
    Nice pun, Beavis.

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    Sorry forgot about giving zip or ing. Here is my location from Tv foolsClick image for larger version. 

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    Hate to run you through this hassle, but... Could you please run a post-transition TVFool report and attach it to a follow-up post? Your attachment above contains current signal conditions, which could be rendered obsolete for some of the stations by the DTV transition (whenever that happens!). I'm especially interested in 7.1 CBS, 10.1 NBC and 13.1 ABC; each affiliate is currently transmitting DTV signals in the UHF band but, like many others across the country, one or more may be "moving back" to their original VHF channel assignments once analog transmitters go dark for good. There's no sense in giving advice for a situation that may no longer apply after (allegedly) June 12. TIA.

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    sorry here is post-transition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasto65 View Post
    sorry here is post-transition
    Are you interested in WBRA-PBS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasto65 View Post
    Here is post-transition

    The simple solution is an all channel antenna with a rotor. I'd opt for the Winegard HD-7082P.

    The elegant solution is a low band VHF only for WBRA, a 7-69 only aimed at 36 degrees for channels 13 and 20, a UHF only aimed at 97 degrees for channel 24, a second UHF only aimed at 306 for 17, 18, 30, and 36, plus a high band VHF aimed at 37 degrees.

    Possible selections are:

    Channel 3: Y5-2-6
    Channels 13, 20: HBU-22
    Channel 24: DTV2BUHF
    Channels at 306: 4221 with preamp or if no preamp, HD8800

    To combine the stations, you'd need a HLSJ, two UVSJs, Jointennas for channel 20 and 24, and five F jumpers.

    If you have multiple TV sets, a preamp on the 306 degree UHF antenna would be needed.

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