Thread: Is it possible to run two leads from single OTA to reduce splitters

I've been waiting for somebody to do that.

Splicer - whats your problem?

I was trying to make a example, I did not say this is this or that is that.

No splitters that I know of comes right out and says = this port is good and this port is junk.

You can buy sweep tested stuff that is not much better.

I was trying to make a point, the point being that the loss at a low channel is much lower then the loss at a higher channel

The loss in a 8 way splitter is unacceptable - Period.

When you take a crappy signal, butt it into crappy wire and then try to amplify it - once it has traveled down the crappy wire for 100 feet, all that will come out the other end is more crap.

What you want to do is take the best possible signal, amplify it if necessary to compensate for line loss and then send it to the television with as little loss or noise injected into the line as possible.

CATV and OTA signals are not the same!

If you had 1000 miles of television wire connected to the head end of one antenna with no amplification, you would have nothing come out the other end, it would be like connecting a dummy load up to your television.

DC power cannot travel more then 10 miles, as Tom Edison found out more then 100 years ago.

AC power - if amplified can travel over long distances with little problems - which is the reason why we use AC power in the US today. If not, almost every town would have to have it's own power generation station.

I misspelled dipole - so sue me. The computer I was typing on - was lagging and I was typing 20 words a minute and it was showing 5. No spell check and even if there was - it probably wouldn't be in there anyways.

Maybe you ought to stick to little kids and old people where you can impress them with your vast knowledge.

Originally Posted by JB Antennaman

Splicer - whats your problem?

Your incorrect posts.

I was trying to make a example, I did not say this is this or that is that.

You didn't say that what you posted was not this or that. Quite the opposite actually. You posted as fact with no indication that you were not posting as such.

No splitters that I know of comes right out and says = this port is good and this port is junk.

What are you talking about? Do you even know yourself? Because nobody else does.

You can buy sweep tested stuff that is not much better.

Again, what are you talking about? Or are you just neither saying this or that?

I was trying to make a point, the point being that the loss at a low channel is much lower then the loss at a higher channel

You failed miserably instead of just coming out and saying this.

The loss in a 8 way splitter is unacceptable - Period.

No. No it isn't. There is a reason 2, 4, 8, & 16 way splitters are manufactured.

When you take a crappy signal, butt it into crappy wire and then try to amplify it - once it has traveled down the crappy wire for 100 feet, all that will come out the other end is more crap.

First off nobody has contradicted this statement. Second off you should have just said, 'crap in and amplified will only give you amplified crap out' and gotten your 'point' across much better than the rambling way you posted.

What you want to do is take the best possible signal, amplify it if necessary to compensate for line loss and then send it to the television with as little loss or noise injected into the line as possible.

Well, seeing as I said this already, when correcting you no less, this isn't anything new.

CATV and OTA signals are not the same!

Do tell.

If you had 1000 miles of television wire connected to the head end of one antenna with no amplification, you would have nothing come out the other end, it would be like connecting a dummy load up to your television.

No antenna has a "head end", at least not in the manner you wrote. Regardless, nobody has said anything different so, what are you talking about and why?

DC power cannot travel more then 10 miles, as Tom Edison found out more then 100 years ago.

And this has to do with this topic why?

AC power - if amplified can travel over long distances with little problems - which is the reason why we use AC power in the US today. If not, almost every town would have to have it's own power generation station.

And again, why are you even posting this completely non topic related information?

I misspelled dipole - so sue me. The computer I was typing on - was lagging and I was typing 20 words a minute and it was showing 5. No spell check and even if there was - it probably wouldn't be in there anyways.

So now you want to take offense when I asked a honest question? I believe I even asked if dipole wasn't what you meant. Then you try to blame a "lagging" computer for the error. And to top it all off you now have the knowledge that a spell check for a site that specifically uses that word on a regular basis would not be in the database. You could try proof reading before hitting the submit button. With your great knowledge you would have easily spotted the error (it was at the very end of the post) and corrected it, even if the computer was "lagging", which has nothing to do with your mis-spelling by adding letters.

Maybe you ought to stick to little kids and old people where you can impress them with your vast knowledge.

Now couldn't you come up with a better insult than this? (Actually it is a rhetorical question that doesn't need an answer from you, since it is obvious this is all you could come up with since it is what you posted.)

Now that that has been said, I would like to get back to some factual information pertaining to this thread. So this basically excuses you from posting here again JB Antennaman, since you, thru your own admission

did not say this is this or that is that

and as such makes your replies irrelevant and insignificant.

Originally Posted by CowboyDren

I've been waiting for somebody to do that.

I did that once too to the "expert"

If you notice, old JB likes to post off topic stuff and be wrong all the time then whines that he's being picked on

He tried the same thing when I posted that a station had gone off the air back in June due to no money to convert to digital. Then when they did get back on air a month ago, he decided to post some off topic stuff about how subchannels work and then some wrong info like you can only own one station in a market which considering we have 2 duopolies here in Minneapolis obviously that is wrong

Here is that thread
http://www.satelliteguys.us/digital-...es-silent.html

so congrats splicer for giving the CORRECT information

Originally Posted by handymantoo

I have two 722k with OTA, an FM receiver and three TV. The most distant stations are 35 miles away and my signal is in the 70-77 range. Would signal improve if I ran second lead and eliminated some of the splitting. Was considering Wineguard pre amp AP 8780, but would prefer not to use preamp.

Don't go by the signal strength display, use your eyes. If the picture never studders or freezes on any of your TV sets, you have enough signal.

The AP 8780 is an excellent preamp, but it has very high gain on UHF. The knowledge needed to select a high gain preamp is to know the exact specifics of the strongest signal, not the furthest or weakest plus the antenna model number. If you want specific advice, post your tvfool report.

Tower Guy the following is info from Tvfool.com. The problem I have is I am located near Providence stations so they have a strong signal even though the antenna is pointed toward Boston stations which are the ones I am trying to reach. Could I use a preamp for the Boston stations and turn it off for the few times I may want the Providence stations? The antenna is on a rotor. thanks,

TV Fool

Originally Posted by handymantoo

Could I use a preamp for the Boston stations and turn it off for the few times I may want the Providence stations?

That idea would work well, but the implementation would not be easy.

In your case I'd use two antennas, both the HD76XX series. The smallest would be fine for Providence. The one aimed at Boston could be larger and should have a HDP-269 preamp, the Providence antenna would have no preamp. Next I'd install two wires to each TV and put an A/B switch at each TV set.

Even a small side mounted EZ HD would be fine for Providence.